@dNyce LS, sorry about that, didn't mean to post anything that would cause your eyes any grief, it's just a truck though. best you not ever visit Canada in that case, you'd go blind up here then.
@SoonerLS, my bad, I meant "heads" and you knew that. but good call.
@BlackLS06, sounds like you know from experience, I'd be happy with no transmission issues considering it's a 4X4 as well.
@purevilpleasure, yes, it's the carbon buildup on the last threads that go past into the head from what I read as well. Seafoming it and taking the plugs out only while the engine is hot, seems to work from what I read.
@joegr, thanks big guy, was hoping for that as well. does seem like a bad design, something as important as spark plugs should never have been designed where they screw into the head past the threads.
@Telco, I don't know man, it's the design of them, plenty of truck manufacturers doing the half doors, didn't realize it was a hinge issue, somehow doubt that. I don't mind it myself. I'm not looking for a full sized truck or even 4 full doors, I was thinking short box with a short wheel span, just a personal preference. I see a lot of sharp looking trucks out there but it's the king cab full 4 doors that kills it for me. Cutting the threads down on the spark plug so they don't go down deep into the chamber is simply not an option, think about it. Maybe adding washers over the plugs so they don't go down as far but that couldn't work as far as timing and TDC firing goes. I'm looking at some pics of the insides and yeah, what is it with Ford engineers, I mean who designs something like that.
@purevilpleasure, I have heard these or any of the F150 can run forever, millage for ever. A lot of trucks with the stupid rear fold down seats that fold down and passengers sitting on what looks like a piece of board about one foot in size, I like this best because the sound system would go there and easiest the say, sorry no room, good luck finding a ride.
@hite337, I was reading the forum that jmtiseo provided a link for and seems people are able to get them out succesfully but then on the other hand I've heard others snapping them off and being in a world of trouble. clearing the carbon out and helping it out along with some penetrating spray while the engine is hot to luck warm, back and forth seems to do it. What a PITA just to change the plugs on a tune up this is for sure.
~ "If you strip the head the cab and bed have to come off to remove the head."
seriously, you are not kidding me on this, right down to the frame to get the heads off ?
I'm not saying you are making things up but damn ... that's taking the whole truck apart to do engine work, seems extreme. still can't believe it, looking into it.
@purevilpleasure again, thanks I like it as well, but the chrome would be gone in two seconds followed by cutting the mufflers off and adding some quick Magnaflows. might add my big *ss tips from the LS to that truck then.
They are asking $10,995 for it but I haven't talked to them about it at all just yet.
I'm in the looking, ready to kick tires stage. I'd want them to come down below 10K unless they did the plugs on them before hand. I'm not borrowing or financing anything, it's all in before the frost/winter hits us. I'd want it for less then 10K taxes in and I'm not interested in any other BS fees, want it delivered to my drive way as well. Don't make me borrow my neighbors dealer plates.
Thanks for the input guys, always appreciate hearing from others that have owned a F150 before, I personally myself have never driven a built ford tough truck. only GMC's
Personally, it's what I'm looking for, something shortbox with no 4 doors but need the 4X4 with a lifted big stance on larger wheels. it's got to have some ponies for pulling and Fn around.
Still weighing it all out but heading to kick the tires this week on it, couple of others on my list as well.
Thanks again to all for the input. Appreciate it.
