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JohnnyBz00LS
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What's that sound? The pitter-patter of a couple hundered angry Tea-Rards stomping their little feet?
I don't know what you think just passed... but enjoy your blissful ignorance for the time being.
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Historically Socialism...is executed when the wealth of a state is collected and fed to the masses as if it were corn feed to the pigs. The entire country eats well for 2-3 years, as of which time no one notices until it is the bread lines-in which case no one has time to imagine anything past their own stomachs-let alone such matters as putting a person on Mars or if there’re any additional flavors of the atom.
In this case, it doesn’t even start until what? 2012-2014? You have until 2012-2016 to start seeing crime and REAL poverty increase exponentially. Take that time to renew your passport, and definitely remember to sell your stocks this year.
I’m guessing the dow will be down on Monday and will be lower in Jan. 2011 than it is today. Only a guess (alot of the people who invest are smart cookies and this is already ‘baked’ into the market)-pun intended.
Real suffering and real pain are a comin’. Not today, not tomorrow, and they are definately calculating that it’ll be past your memory and beyond our CONTROL, but it’s a comin”-if this allowed to stand.
In this case, it doesn’t even start until what? 2012-2014? You have until 2012-2016 to start seeing crime and REAL poverty increase exponentially. Take that time to renew your passport, and definitely remember to sell your stocks this year.
I’m guessing the dow will be down on Monday and will be lower in Jan. 2011 than it is today. Only a guess (alot of the people who invest are smart cookies and this is already ‘baked’ into the market)-pun intended.
Real suffering and real pain are a comin’. Not today, not tomorrow, and they are definately calculating that it’ll be past your memory and beyond our CONTROL, but it’s a comin”-if this allowed to stand.
fossten
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...she gleefully banged out on her keyboard.
Time for me to start looking for another job. My company won't last long now thanks to this bill.
What if this doesn’t actually destroy America? That would be a tragedy for Republicans. A lot of political coin has been spent by the Dems here - but an even larger amount of political coin has been spent by the Republicans.
fossten
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Are you going to sit there and say that the Democrats aren't going to lose seats over this?
Bottom line is this - both parties can't be right about this. Somebody's wrong. You, foxpaws, appear to be having difficulty restraining your glee over this, despite your numerous protestations that you were not in favor of this bill.
Take your lying, hypocritical, race baiting opinions elsewhere.
Nope, Dems will lose seats - probably lots of them, this election cycle. However, in the long run, say in the bigger picture election, 2012, will this trend continue? If we haven't fallen into a great abyss because of this bill by then, the Republicans can come out looking like fools.
Oh, Foss, I read that the WSJ believes that pharmaceuticals will benefit the most from this bill - your company should do fine.
Oh, Foss, I read that the WSJ believes that pharmaceuticals will benefit the most from this bill - your company should do fine.
fossten
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Well, that might be true if I worked for a pharma company. But I don't. So go pound sand.
The passage of this bill was an assault on freedom and liberty. America has already been destroyed. Just wait until people start getting fined for not purchasing insurance, and IRS agents start knocking on people's doors demanding proof of compliance with the UNCONSTITUTIONAL purchasing mandate.
Any battle worth fighting has casualties.
Maybe it will only destroy fossten's (idea of) america.
The consevatives got their revisionist Texas textbooks last week but the liberals scored a much bigger prize.
Maybe it will only destroy fossten's (idea of) america.
The consevatives got their revisionist Texas textbooks last week but the liberals scored a much bigger prize.
fossten
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What's this, the 'That's your opinion' argument?
I guarantee I've read far more of the bill than you have. I know what's in it. I know what freedoms it takes away. You don't know jack. So shut up until you have something meaningful to say. Keep your childish taunts to yourself.
But hey, maybe foxpaws has a point. Maybe my premiums really will go down 3,000% like Obama said.
It is no excuse for presumptuous ignorance that it is directed by insolent passion
-Edmund Burke
Know what you are talking about...
So you think they're going to live up to their own rules?
It would be ironic if evolution (of government) obsoletes old guard conservative policies.
Once this is in effect there's no going back unless conservatives want to campaign scrooge like on not paying for babies and sick people to see doctors because they're not worthy.
Good luck with that.
Is Rush going to follow through on leaving the country like he promised?
You listen to him every day...
fossten
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No really
Don't you think this could be the beginning of the end of political conservatism?
It's not exactly popular in the rest of the world and with the US moving forward with Obamacare people may decide they like not worrying about individually paying for healthcare and facing potential catastrophic medical bills bankrupting them among other things.
Once the people get a taste of universal healthcare they may decide their fears were much greater than the reality.
Don't you think this could be the beginning of the end of political conservatism?
It's not exactly popular in the rest of the world and with the US moving forward with Obamacare people may decide they like not worrying about individually paying for healthcare and facing potential catastrophic medical bills bankrupting them among other things.
Once the people get a taste of universal healthcare they may decide their fears were much greater than the reality.
fossten
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In a vacuum your thought might be something to consider.
However, Obama and his fellow communists haven't even begun to ramp up their takeover. Up next is amnesty, and after that Crap and Trade. Jobs isn't even on the horizon. The healthcare bill and reconciliation package together will jack up capital gains taxes to 25%. Obama is determined to destroy the private sector and make America pay for its capitalist greed, eh comrade? Perpetual 10% unemployment and huge debt and inflation will highlight the folly of the Communists now in control.
How did Carter do in 1980?
You really should know what you are talking about.
Limbaugh NEVER promised to leave the country like you claim.
If you understood conservatism and the political dynamics in the country you would know that conservatism is in the ascendancy and this country is and has been a center-right to conservative nation.
If you actually applied any critical thought to the Texas textbook issue you would find that they are inherently not giving a one sided view of history but are attempting to move away from a one sided view of history.
If you understood the economic realities and trade-offs both in this health care bill and single payer health care generally you would know that peoples fears of universal health care are not unfounded and the reality will likely be worse then thought.
You need to educate yourself and apply a little critical thought here instead of accepting leftist propaganda. You are embarrassing yourself with your ignorance.
None of these things are horrifying or as horrifying as you make them out to be.
Canada has high taxes to pay for healthcare and social programs and it has the best balance sheet of all the G8 countries.
10% unemployment is a bit of a silver lining for business in that it's high enough to keep down wages but not so high as to significantly hurt the customer base.
A capital gains tax of 25% is still much less than the 45% state and federal income tax I'm paying now.
My bleeding heart has dried up considerably since I had to pay a huge tax bill for last year.
Unlike you, I don't think Obama is full of evil schemes to punish America.
Carter told Americans to shape up, conserve (ironic no) and live within their means.
That didn't go over well so we got Reagan with his tax cuts and deficit spending to pay for our lifestyles.
Limbaugh only said he would leave the country for his health care needs, if certain things happen here in the US - I believe he is to head for Costa Rica...
If I have to get thrown into this massive government health care insurance business and end up going to the driver's license office every day when I need to go to the doctor, yeah, I'll go to Costa Rica for treatment, not move there.
However, since Costa Rica has universal health care - it seems like an odd place for him to go. However, it is one of the best places in Latin America as far as the quality of their health care.
If he is looking for a 'developed' country, without universal health care - maybe Turkey might be a better fit, they don't have universal health care.
And shag - although you may argue we are on the road to universal health care - we are a long ways from it at this point. People might like this health insurance reform, within it are a lot of the things the republicans wanted. The Reps might want to start to embrace those good things, so they aren't left sitting in a boat without oars...
These are your conservative opinions backed up with some selective "facts" that you gained from books and such.
My real education didn't begin until after I finished with school 30 years ago.
I grew up under universal healthcare and am aware of the trade offs involved.
I was happy with the service I got when I needed it.
You go to a doctor, any doctor or hospital, show the clerk your photo health card and that's it.
No co pays or bills or paperwork.
You have to pay for prescriptions out of pocket but prices for established drugs are controled and new drugs are negotiable.
Some people may have died waiting for service but that number pales in comparison to the uninsured or worse thought was insured american experience.
'04, when you don't understand the opposing worldviews involved here and how they have developed and been enacted throughout history you only make yourself look like a fool.
I would recommend reading Thomas Sowell's A Conflict of Visions: Ideological Origins of Political Struggles. It gives a balanced account of the various worldviews in play without taking one side over the other.
If you don't understand those worldviews then you have no hope of distinguishing the truth from propaganda; you become a dupe.
I would recommend reading Thomas Sowell's A Conflict of Visions: Ideological Origins of Political Struggles. It gives a balanced account of the various worldviews in play without taking one side over the other.
If you don't understand those worldviews then you have no hope of distinguishing the truth from propaganda; you become a dupe.
fossten
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Yes, comrade, we know you don't value human life like we do.