A difference between Republicans and Democrats

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A friend of mine wrote this elsewhere, but I'm going to repeat it here:

Difference between Republicans and Democrats.

When a Republican, no matter how popular or how much he has done for the state... even being called the "Alaskan of the Century"... is found to do something wrong... he does not win re-election.

But if you are a democratic congressman caught dead to rights and about to go on trial.. you get re-elected.

Which one is the party of corruption again? Oh, when is that "investigation" that Charley Rangel called on himself going to start by the way? Don't hold your breath.

Remember William Jefferson, the Louisiana congressman who was indicted last year on bribery, racketeering and money laundering charges?
Well, he’s still in Congress, and he’s likely to stay there for a while.
Technically, Jefferson still has to win a Dec. 6th runoff in Louisiana. But his opponent, little known Republican lawyer Anh “Joseph” Cao, stands little chance in Louisiana’s heavily Democratic second congressional district.
Ironically, Jefferson’s long-delayed federal trial is also likely to start that week — Dec. 2nd in Virginia.
Last week, the Fourth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals cleared the way for the trial to start — upholding his indictment by ruling that Jefferson’s rights weren’t violated when the grand jury received evidence that violated legislative immunity.
 
And notice how little media attention was paid to the FACT that Mark Foley was cleared of all ethics charges.

Who cares, though, the DriveBy Media got the job done and moved on.
 
And notice how little media attention was paid to the FACT that Mark Foley was cleared of all ethics charges.

Who cares, though, the DriveBy Media got the job done and moved on.

Have you ever noticed how much you and other right wingers whine?

Everything is always unfair to the republicans. Doesnt matter what it is. If its a republican its unfair, or BDS or something.

Thats ok. Keep it up. You lose ground each election and still keep demanding your right and the rest of the country is wrong. Thats why you keep losing ground. In 2 years, maybe you lose complete control and the dems gain a filabuster proof senate too.

Face it. 8 million more people voted for Obama then McCain. That's whats called a MANDATE.

When will you people learn?
 
Have you ever noticed how much you and other right wingers whine?

Everything is always unfair to the republicans. Doesnt matter what it is. If its a republican its unfair, or BDS or something.
And did you ever notice how defensive you were? How stubborn you are and how you refuse to even listen to or acknowledge information that contradicts your very limited view of the world?


Thats ok. Keep it up. You lose ground each election
And comments like this demonstrate what I just said.
Keep losing ground each election? In '06 and '08, that would be accurate. But that wasn't the case in '94, '96, '98, '00, '02, or '04.
So you're view of history and your ability to recognize trends is clearly very limited.

and still keep demanding your right and the rest of the country is wrong. Thats why you keep losing ground. In 2 years, maybe you lose complete control and the dems gain a filabuster proof senate too.
Well, that would sure teach everyone a lesson, now wouldn't it. :rolleyes:

Do you have anything intelligent to ad, or do you just want to scold Fossten because you "don't like his little attitude."


Face it. 8 million more people voted for Obama then McCain. That's whats called a MANDATE.

When will you people learn?
Again, you're simply too ignorant to have an intelligent discussion with. If there's ever any hope of that, I guess I'll have to start by teaching you...

Republicans certainly lost this November.
But let me first ask, what "mandate" does Obama or the Democrats have? What principles did they run on? Disgust with Washington is certainly evident, and that frustration was released on Republicans, no doubt. But you'll have to tell me what policies did the Democrats run on that they have a mandate to implement? Usually when a candidate or a supporters says that they have a mandate from the people, they are referring to something. "I ran on a platform of x,y, and z."

So other than the publics mandate for "hope and change," I'll have to ask for some specifics. I honestly don't know.

And regarding your sudden embrace of the term mandate.
In 2000, George W. Bush won the electoral college and the Presidency.
The Senate was divided evenly, 50/50.
The House had a small Republican majority, 221/211

This demonstrates a country that is very closely divided. And in the spirit of bipartisanship, Bush made repeated attempts at reaching across the aisle, even crafting legislation with Ted Kennedy. Republicans, in the spirit of fairness, gave Democrats equal representation in Senate committees even though the didn't have to. This spirit wasn't reflected by the Democrats who blocked and delayed all of Bush's appointments, something which ultimately left many important positions unfilled during a time of crisis.. but that's another issue.

After the turbulent 2000 Presidential election, it was expected that there would be a backlash and that the sitting President would lose seats in the Congress during the midterm election. This is usually the case. But, to the contrary, Bush and the Republicans GAINED seats during the midterm election. In 2002, during the mid-term election, Republicans won control of the Senate back with 52/48. And they picked up seats in the House of Representatives, making it 229/206.

Would you say he had a mandate at this point?
The Democrats didn't, they began aggressively using the filibuster and obstructing government reform.

In 2004, President Bush ran for re-election. Pundits and historians noted that while the Republicans had made gains in the Congress during the midterm election, it was inevitable that Republicans would lose seats in the Congress, regardless whether Bush won or not. It simply was unprecedented for the President's party to GAIN seats two election cycles in a row like this.

He won the popular vote and the electoral vote, with over 62,040,610 votes. Almost 12 million more votes than in 2000. Republicans also increased their majority AGAIN in the Senate to 55/45. And they increased their control of the House 325/201.

Would you say that he had a mandate at this point?
Because you didn't. Bush and the Republicans were running on issues. Despite this "mandate," I don't remember ever hearing your outrage when the Democrats spent the next few years obstructing and demonizing every attempt at reform that came from the Republican party. I don't remember you ever telling liberals to "stop whining, you lost."

And in 2008, Obama won and the Democrats have taken back control of the Congress, they built upon their expansion of power in 2006. It's rarely noted that the Democrats have been running extremely conservative Democrats in these seats they are picking up, ones who have virtually nothing in common with the party leadership or Obama.

The new Senator of Alaska, the one that just defeated Ted Stevens, is pro-gun, pro-liberty, and supports drilling in ANWR. Jim Webb, for Virginia, used to be a Republican, he's really just anti-war.

So, I defy you to tell me what that mandate is, I honestly don't know.
Hope and change indeed.
 
Have you ever noticed how much you and other right wingers whine?

Everything is always unfair to the republicans. Doesnt matter what it is. If its a republican its unfair, or BDS or something.

Thats ok. Keep it up. You lose ground each election and still keep demanding your right and the rest of the country is wrong. Thats why you keep losing ground. In 2 years, maybe you lose complete control and the dems gain a filabuster proof senate too.

Face it. 8 million more people voted for Obama then McCain. That's whats called a MANDATE.

When will you people learn?

Come now, really you are only talking about a little more than half...not the rest of the country...
 
Change you can believe in:
It's unanimous: Harlem Rep. Charles Rangel remains chair of Ways and Means Committee
BY CELESTE KATZ

Thursday, November 20th 2008, 1:06 PM

House Democrats voted unanimously today to keep Harlem Rep. Charles Rangel as chairman of the powerful Ways and Means Committee in the next Congress.

Rangel, 78, is currently under investigation by the House ethics committee for failing to pay about $10,000 in income taxes on a Dominican Republican vacation villa he owns and rents out.

Once the issue surfaced, Rangel said he was only guilty of a simple error, paid the back taxes and himself called for an investigation.

The long-time Congressman hired accounting firm Watkins, Meegan, Drury and Co. to examine his tax returns and House financial disclosure filings and report the findings directly to House ethics officials.

Rangel has also been accused of unfairly amassing four rent-stabilized apartments in the city and using official congressional stationery to fundraise for the Charles B. Rangel Center for Public Service at City College - issues the ethics panel is also probing.

The Ways and Means Committee oversees the nation's tax policies.

Rangel has said he generally approves of President-elect Barack Obama's tax platform, which includes a middle-class tax cut.

The chairman also favors abolition of the alternative minimum tax.

House GOP leader John Boehner of Ohio has demanded that House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) strip Rangel of his chairmanship until the end of the investigation, saying he had flouted the very tax laws he helped write.

But Pelosi said Rangel wasn't going anywhere - an assertion confirmed by yesterday's unanimous vote by House Democrats.
 

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