A Postmodern Presidency

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A Postmodern Presidency

A Pretentious Word for a World Without Rules


Given thirty years of postmodern relativism in our universities, we were bound to get a postmodern president at some point.

Postmodernism is a fancy word — in terms of culture, nihilist; in terms of politics, an equality of result and the ends justifying the means — that a lot of people throw around to describe the present world of presumed wisdom that evolved in the last part of the 20th century.

“After modernism” or “beyond modernism” can mean almost anything — nihilistic art that goes well beyond modern art (think a crucifix in urine rather than the splashes of modernist Jackson Pollock). Or think of the current English Department doggerel that is declared “poetry” (no transcendent references, echoes of classicism, no cadence, rhyme, meter, particular poetic language, theme, structure, etc.) versus Eliot’s or Pound’s non-traditional modern poetry of the 1920s and 1930. In politics, there is something of the absurd. The modern age saw life and death civil rights marches and the commemoration of resistance to venomous racial oppression; the postmodern civil rights marches are staged events at the DC tea party rally, as elites troll in search of a slur, or Prof. Gates’s offer to donate his “cuffs” to the Smithsonian as proof of his racial “ordeal.”

Genres, rules, and protocols in art, music, or in much of anything vanish as the unnecessary obstructions they are deemed to be — constructed by those with privilege to perpetuate their own entrenched received authority and power. The courage, sacrifice, and suffering of past American generations that account for our present bounty are simply constructs, significant only to the degree that we use the past to deconstruct the race, class, and gender power machinations that pervade contemporary American exploitive society. History is melodrama, a morality tale, not tragedy.

Relativism Everywhere

But the chief characteristic of postmodern thinking is the notion of relativism and the primacy of language over reality. What we signify and brand as “real,” in essence, is no more valid than another’s “truth,” even if we retreat to specious claims of “evidence”— especially if our aim is to perpetuate the nation state, or the primacy of the white male capitalist Westerner who long ago manufactured norms in his own interests.

“Alternate” realities instead reflect those without power speaking a “truth,” one just as valid as the so-called empirical tradition that hinged on inherited privilege.

The New National Creed

OK, so how does this affect Obama?

He was schooled in the postmodern university and operates on hand-me-down principles from postmodernism. One does not need to read Foucault or Derrida, or to be acquainted with Heidegger, to see how relativism enhances contemporary multiculturalism. Keep that in mind and everything else makes sense.

Try health care. By traditional standards, Obama prevaricates on most of the main issues revolving health care reform — from the fundamental about its costs and effects, to the more superficial such as airing the entire process on C-SPAN or promising not to push through a major bill like this on narrow majoritism. And recall the blatant bribes for votes to politicians from Nebraska to Louisiana. Look also at the enormous borrowing and cuts from Medicare that will be involved.

Well, those were not misstatements or misdeeds at all. You, children of privilege, only think they are, since you use antiquated norms like “abstract” truth to adjudicate the discomforting efforts of a progressive president.

He, on the other hand, is trying to force the privileged at last to account for their past oppressions (insurance companies that gouge, surgeons that lop off legs or tear out tonsils for profit, investors who private jet to the Super Bowl, or the lesser but equally selfish Joe the Plumber types who do not wish to “spread the wealth”) by extending care to the underprivileged. Your “Truth” about his past statements is something reactionaries evoke to thwart such progressive change; in fact, the constructed truth of Obama’s is that a child will now have regular check-ups. All the other “gotcha” games about abstract truth and falsehood are just semantics.

Mean Speech for Thee, But not for Me


Look at supposed hate speech. An empiricist would ignore Obama’s recent warnings about the new wave of right-wing tough talk from Limbaugh and Beck, and determine instead whether the president remembers the novel Checkpoint, or the award-winning film about killing George Bush, or the venom of a Michael Moore or Keith Olbermann.

That is, a traditional inquirer would weigh the furor of the right against left, in ascertaining whether hate speech is at all partisan or simply politics of all stripes. And he would remind the president that it was Barack Obama himself who asked of his supporters to “get in their face”and bragged “if they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” and who used graphic examples in damning his opponents (cf. the taunt to Hannity (“he’ll tear him up”).

But you see, all this is not so. The postmodernist constructs a different reality. A person of color who is striving to level the playing field against oppressive interests speaks the “truth” to power. Of course, from time to time he draws on emotive language to drive home his points — quite unlike the cool, detached, and deliberate attack narratives of those seeking to protect corporate or entrenched interests.

When Obama attacks Beck, or Hannity, or calls for someone to bring a gun to a fight, or has Rahm Emanuel curse a fence-sitting representative, these protocols seem extreme only to those whose economic interests are threatened. Poor children in Detroit or in the barrios of El Paso don’t get the opportunity for tit-for-tat score-keeping, as if millionaires “think” they are entitled to the same “fair” treatment as their victims. When Limbaugh rails, it is to protect his Gulfstream 550; when Obama “distorts,” it is the expediency needed to wring from the wealthy salvation for the voiceless.

Racialism — no such thing!

Race is the same. A person of color can hardly, given the history of oppression accorded to non-whites, himself be guilty of dividing people by race.

So if Obama says “typical white person,” or entitles his book from the sloganeering of a racist preacher he courted for 20 years, or stereotypes rural Pennsylvanians, or dubs police as acting “stupidly” in matters of supposed racial confrontation, or has an attorney general who damns the country as “cowards” on race, or appoints a Supreme Court judge who thinks a “wise Latina” by virtue of race and gender has superior wisdom, or recruits a Van Jones who characterizes everyone from polluters to mass murderers by race (I could go on), well, all this is not at all racial stereotyping with an intent to deprecate.

Why? Because constructs of language, expression, and reality hinge on status and class. Obama is seeking to dethrone traditional nexuses of power. So when he, from time to time, muses on real racial inequality, reactionaries retreat to “objective” “standards” of reciprocity to thwart his proposed changes.

Take-overs — what Take-overs?

And those “take-overs”? Take-over from what to what?

An outraged managerial and capital laden class feigns victimhood when working folks at last have a say in how the nation’s profits are derived and enjoyed, originating from their own labor in banking, insurance, and auto production. All these retreats to “private” income, “my property,” “liberty,” “The Founders,” and the “Constitution” simply can be deconstructed to “don’t dismantle a system that is weighted in my favor!”

No wonder “they” construct all sort of scary “narratives” about the Postal Service, Amtrak, Social Security, Medicare, and other shared collective enterprises that are branded “insolvent” and “unsustainable,” despite serving the people — the economic gobbledygook talk from those who really mean they are not willing to transfer their own unfairly obtained capital to more deserving working folks through legitimate “redistributive change.”

The Voices of the Oppressed

Finally, examine foreign policy. Now many of us are upset that we court enemies and shun friends, and seem to be reaching out to the most authoritarian regimes imaginable, whether Putin’s Russia, or Iran, or Venezuela. Well, once again, that is only because you construct reality on the norms predicated upon your own comfortable globalized privilege — that, in fact, as Obama thankfully grasps, is a result of thousands of daily oppressions, both here and abroad, of which you are not even aware.

Consider the trumped-up crisis with Iran. We hold Ahmadinejad to our artificially constructed standards of “civil” discourse and “fair” play — forgetting (but not Obama) the 1953 Western-inspired coup, the profit-mongering of the global oil companies, and the neo-imperialist role of the United States in the Gulf. We hide all that with constructs like “the mullahs,” the “theocrats,” “Islamofascism” and other demonization rooted in class, gender, race, and religion.

If Iran had been behind a past U.S. coup, if Iranian warships were off the coast of California, if an Iranian coal company were buying and selling our national energy production, then we too might sound somewhat unhinged as we sought to employ language to offset our oppressor’s ill-gotten material advantages.

In an American constructed world order, we artificially adjudicate Iran a rogue would-be nuclear menace for wishing five or six small nuclear weapons to protect its vulnerable borders (American troops now abut them); we have thousands of such devices, and have used them, and yet are deemed “responsible” and “peaceful,” we of all people, who, as the president once reminded us, have alone used them on real people.

So what Obama has done is “contextualized” the world, and “located,” as it were, the seemingly hostile anti-American rhetoric of “enemies” into a proper race/class/gender narrative.

And what he has found is that nationalism and the construct of the state have fooled us into thinking that there are “allies” and “enemies,” when, in fact, these are mere labels used by the privileged to “exaggerate” “difference” that only enhances Western entrenched economic, racial, cultural and political hegemonies.

Once, thanks to Obama, we “unpack” that “reality,” then we can see that most Americans have much in common with Venezuelans, Russians, Iranians, Syrians and others who likewise struggle against the same enemies that brought us the 2008 Wall Street meltdown and now oppose health care reform, cap and trade, amnesty, and the take over of the automobile, banking, and insurance industries.

So a postmodernist looks at the Falklands and does not rely on archaic notions of “sovereignty” or a “history” of a prior war. Instead, one sees a postcolonial power once more claiming “ownership” of a far distant island, proximate to a Latin American people, with long experience with European and American economic and political exploitation. Presto — we are now “neutral,” which means we don’t see anything intrinsically convincing in Britain’s claims to the Falklands.

Note Israel. What are we to make of the Netanyahu humiliating smack down, the seeming indifference over the Iranian nuclear program, the nominations and appointments on the Middle East front of a Freeman or Power, the reach out to Syria and Iran, the interview with al Arabiya and the Cairo speech, the bow to a Saudi royal, the ritual trashing of George Bush juxtaposed to the praise of a Saudi king, the strange past outbursts of Obama advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski about hypothetically shooting down Israeli planes on their way to Iran, the ranting about Jews from the former spiritual advisor Wright, etc.

In short, the answer is that Israel is a construct of Western privilege — its democratic, capitalist, and Western customs hinge on the oppression of a vast “other” that is far more egalitarian, socialist, and antithetical to Western consumer-capitalism with all of its pathologies of race, class, and gender exploitation.

In that context, in archaic fashion, we struggle to damn any effort to end such hegemony and empower the voices of the oppressed. We are not, in fact, “allied” to Israel, but properly speaking instead should be to the underprivileged in the Gaza slums, to those without health care on the West Bank, and, yes, to the progressive Israelis of noble spirit who are trying to battle the reactionary Likudniks and instead do something about the tentacles of their own discriminatory state, whose capital is derived from exploited labor and resources of a silenced other.

Standards of What?

I could go on, but you get the picture of our first postmodern presidency. For 14 months we have tried to use abstract benchmarks like “did Obama contradict himself?,” “did Obama break another promise?,” “did Obama really think borrowing another $2 trillion won’t help to bankrupt us?,” “did Obama indeed think another entitlement ’saves’ money?,” “did Obama snub another ally and court another enemy?,” “did Obama apologize again?” — when, in fact, such linear thinking, such artificially constructed “norms,” such “facts” are nothing of the sort at all. To Obama, our first postmodern president, such facts and truth are mere signatures of privilege, and so he is offering us another — a postmodern — way of looking at the world.
 
Say What?
Since you posted this can you sumarize and explain this incoherent incomprehensible non sequeter blathering babble into english?
 
Cliff Notes

Say What?
Since you posted this can you sumarize and explain this incoherent incomprehensible non sequeter blathering babble into english?

It's better to be silent so that others wonder at one's ignorance, than to open one's mouth and, by braying, remove all doubt.

If you can't comprehend clear English, it would behoove you to keep your failure to yourself.

If you can't run with the big dogs, stay under the porch.

There are other equally appropriate comments.

Please make use of spell-check before posting
KS
 
Say What?
Since you posted this can you sumarize and explain this incoherent incomprehensible non sequeter blathering babble into english?

What don't you understand? Where does the article lose you?
 
Plain english eh? cammerfe

Criticising me for some minor spelling error without responding to the topic with your view is just a clever dodge.

The writer is writing to please himself, not to explain anything simply and elegantly using the least words.
What I get from it is that Obama (and society) makes it up as he/it goes along without too much regard for traditions and the past.
Post Modern is the future beyond today which can be whatever the writer imagines.
Look at sci fi movies about the future from the 50's
How different our future looks from that.

So for the sake of brevity and precis what does it say to you Shag?
 
Say What?
Since you posted this can you sumarize and explain this incoherent incomprehensible non sequeter blathering babble into english?
Jeez, can't you see the post right above yours? Wow, you are really sad. But hey, go rant and throw a childish fit, nobody else cares. :rolleyes:

If you can't understand it, how do you know it's a non sequitur?
 
Style attacks, Illiteracies, and congruence of word forms

Plain english eh? cammerfe

Criticising me for some minor spelling error without responding to the topic with your view is just a clever dodge

Don't you realize that your post is nothing more than an attack on Shag's style of writing, and actually says nothing regarding the content?

And let me apologize, because I 'let fly' regarding your tone of attack and actually did something close to the sort of post you made. I should do better than that.

Thanks for the 'clever' but it was no dodge. Illiteracies annoy me. They speak to a lack of schooling and there's no excuse for that in our culture. Except, perhaps, the progressive/liberal notion that it's the greatest evil to hold kids accountable for learning, regardless of possible damage to fragile egos.

And by the way, 'brevity', used as you have, suggests state-of-being; 'precis' is a noun. For congruence, you'd need to speak of 'A brevity' to have it match your use of 'precis'.
KS
 
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FYI; I didn't write that. The author was Victor Davis Hanson; who's blog was linked to. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
 
As for what the article "says to me"; it shines a light on the intellectual sophistry that serves to chip away at the idea of "truth". It shows a lot of the terminology used, it explains concepts (and how they are employed/applied) and demonstrates the logical consequences and absurdities of rejecting the truth in this fashion.
 
04 is the last person who should be whining about lengthy walls of text. At least Shag had the good sense to separate the paragraphs. :rolleyes:
 
Don't you realize that your post is nothing more than an attack on Shag's style of writing, and actually says nothing regarding the content?

I wasn't criticising Shag just the writer of the post.
Stop being careless and pay better attention.

The content is not (to me) clearly written and a lot to muddle through.
 
As for what the article "says to me"; it shines a light on the intellectual sophistry that serves to chip away at the idea of "truth". It shows a lot of the terminology used, it explains concepts (and how they are employed/applied) and demonstrates the logical consequences and absurdities of rejecting the truth in this fashion.

Truth in human relations is dependent on one's point of view.
 
04 is the last person who should be whining about lengthy walls of text. At least Shag had the good sense to separate the paragraphs. :rolleyes:

Some articles I have posted in the past may have been lengthy but my own comments are not long winded.

Ah I know when you mention the paragraph spacing fetish you're putting me on. :p
How do you get by reading stuff on the internet where the paragraphs are not separated? :rolleyes:
 
Truth in human relations is dependent on one's point of view.

Truth in some things is harder to objectively discern then others. But truth is very rarely relative. To try and characterize it as such is to attempt to circumvent reality.
 
Truth in some things is harder to objectively discern then others. But truth is very rarely relative. To try and characterize it as such is to attempt to circumvent reality.

There can be multiple truths, selective truths and lack of truth through omission.
 
Examples? Primarily of the"multiple truths" thing...
For instance the truth is that people will lose some past rights under Obamacare but it is also true that some people will not die who otherwise would because they will have access to medical care they did not have before.
 
For instance the truth is that people will lose some past rights under Obamacare but it is also true that some people will not die who otherwise would because they will have access to medical care they did not have before.

Two separate facts (one of questionable veracity, but that is beside the point);.

Your example is consistent with what I have said throughout this thread.
 
Ok here's another example of multiple truths.

It is true that smoking is unhealthy and the government incurs significant healthcare costs to treat chronic smoking related diseases.

But it is also true that the government never lists the revenue it receives from cigarette taxes to balance that.

Also the government never lists the savings it nets from more pensioners statistically dieing 5 to 10 years sooner than non smokers.

Given our current situation it is probably better for the treasury for people to continue smoking and possibly statistically die sooner than continue collecting benefits.

Now weather this is better for society in general is another question which also depends on one's point of view.
 
It is true that smoking is unhealthy and the government incurs significant healthcare costs to treat chronic smoking related diseases.

But it is also true that the government never lists the revenue it receives from cigarette taxes to balance that.

Again, two separate facts; two separate truths.

Now weather this is better for society in general is another question which also depends on one's point of view.

Saying it is a "matter of perspective" or "dependent on ones point of view" only means that the truth is hard to discern; that we don't possess the information and/or means to conclusively discern the truth, but it does not mean that there is no objective truth.

Another implication of the "point of view" argument is that it depends on the precepts that view is based in; on the philosophical assumptions. That is precisely what I have been pointing out all along; those basic philosophical assumptions are where the debate starts. It is not so much that the truth is "dependent on the point of view"; it is a question of which set of assumptions by the various points of view are closer to the truth. Just because it is hard to discern the truth does not mean that the truth is therefore subjective...

Especially in instances where different perspectives draw different conclusions from the same facts, ignoring those assumptions results in a pointless and unproductive debate where the two sides simply argue past each other.

Back to the original article; the whole point of postmodernism, as discussed in the article, is to muddy the waters and make the truth seem subjective. If the truth is subjective, you can reasonably believe whatever you want to believe. The article highlights the fact that irrational polices result from the acceptance of that absurd and illogical premise...
 
Shag – is this a bizarre piece of satire from Hansen? Did he say what type of commentary he was spoofing here?

If this isn’t satire then it is so ostentatious and snobbish that it just has to be dismissed as some sort of exercise in pompous prose. Why did he write it as though he were some sort of elitist prig?

Gak.

Well, we can first attack his whole idea of what postmodern is –

Nihilistic – wow – I have no idea of where that came from, but talk about redefining a word or concept to fit a notion that is being bandied about. To imply that postmodern thinking leads to a nihilistic society- a society that is suicidal? Is it to create fear among people who might not really understand ‘postmodern’?

There are many postmodern thinkers – a wide variety. And they encompass a very diverse set of morals/ethics. They broaden perspectives, look outside the box to solve problems. They would have you look twice at convention, and see if there is another approach that should be undertaken.

Behind the ideology of postmodernism is nothing is permanent – everything evolves. Postmodernism looks to solve problems not based on a conditional ‘it is what we have always done’ but rather a look forward to what has changed since the last time we undertook this problem, and what are the new alternatives now available to us. And, perhaps something that was rarely undertaken during the modern era, how will this decision alter decisions and conditions yet to happen, or which are happening on a different plane than this one.

So, yes, in some respects Obama is a postmodern thinker. You can tell he is reaching beyond the ‘set and known’ to look for solutions that will aim us for a future, rather than constantly looking at the past.

But, I think the author has it wrong when he indicates that Obama ignores history, and that he doesn’t draw on it for his solutions. You might not like the history from which he draws heavily from (the Roosevelts, Johnson, MLK, Thurgood Marshall, and yes, Clinton) but he does look at situations from the past, and how to add that into the fabric of his view of the future.

Postmodernism deconstructs the past in an effort to look at the problem differently, but, it does look at the past - unlike what Hansen implies.
Hansen used Pollock vs urine soaked crucifixes as how to look at this.

He is incorrect. You can barely use Pollock – he was at the very end of modernism, and is actually an abstract expressionist. But, you maybe could sneak by using him (he should have used Picasso). However on the post modern side is Warhol. He deconstructs the ‘known’ and makes us look at it in a new way. Warhol’s soup cans are the perfect example. An everyday object viewed in a different way – as art. If you can, look at the images he created using photos of suicide victims, he doesn’t ask you to engage with the concept but remove the ‘set knowledge’ of the image and see the art on the surface.

Does Obama think we should look at problems beyond the scope of what traditionally has been done in the past? Perhaps he is forcing us ahead, instead of having us to continually languish with “Well it worked for my parents, why shouldn’t it work for me”. Certainly in some cases that is true – what worked for mom and dad will work for us. But with the shrinking world, politically and economically, solutions need to be rethought for a 21st century and beyond solution.

I think you see that term, post moderism, being force fed as some sort of ‘evil,’ when you read Hansen’s tirade on foreign policy. He is distraught that Obama is looking at our place in the world, and our relationships with other countries as something that should be reviewed, and yes changed, and not as a static ‘this is the way it has always been done, so it will be the way I do it’ mindset. Hansen would be happy with 'status quo', as would most of the right. Status quo no longer works because of the speed of change in today's society.

I think that Hansen’s piece is more about right wing fear, and trying to create a parallel with an abstract term so it can be conveniently labeled, vilified, and denounced, without really understanding the underlying meaning of the term, and how, in actuality, that Obama’s course of action isn’t the boogie man Hansen wants us to believe. Postmodernism isn't a 'boogie man' but just another concept that should be explored.
 
Look who disappears for days, REFUSING to respond to others' posts, and then shows up with another wall of text.

Gak, indeed.
 
Look who disappears for days, REFUSING to respond to others' posts, and then shows up with another wall of text.

Gak, indeed.

Foss - I know you always miss me when I am gone. ;)
Finished my taxes with my tax guy in CA - spent time on the beach in Malibu, home for today, then back out on the road for the rest of the week and into next.

Sorry - this thread was interesting... Did you have other requests? You have about 2 hours before I head back out on a plane...

And such vitriol. Is it because I take the time to craft a reply to shag's wall of text cut and paste column, and your deep, insightful, perspicacious response was...

The ends justify the means.

That about sums it up.

I would have to agree - your response pretty much sums up your input into almost any discussion. Ten words that merely cheer lead shag or whatever drivel shag has drudged up to post here.
 

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