Ain’t it amazing that…

[Vitas]

...we are in the right place at the right time to deal with Iran.

Shocking.

 

[TheDude]

...we are in the right place at the right time to deal with Iran.

Shocking.

This guy is amazing....

What will truly be amazing is how we're going to pull off fighting on two fronts once we go into Iran and still manage to protect our borders from all those pissed off Iranian fundamentalist looking for an excuse to get their virgin rewards.

Personally, I do not think the country is prepared or ready to handle another war in light of how Iraq is going so hopefully Bushco will have a solid plan this time around.

 

[MrWilson]

What will truly be amazing is how we're going to pull off fighting on two fronts once we go into Iran and still manage to protect our borders from all those pissed off Iranian fundamentalist looking for an excuse to get their virgin rewards.

We can send them plenty of virginians to whoop their asses! no virgins though.

why do they want a virgin? seriously...

 

[Calabrio]

What will truly be amazing is how we're going to pull off fighting on two fronts

Before you go any farther, let's not misrepresent what's going on in Iraq. While there is still additional work to do, we're hardly fight a "war" in Iraq right now. There are some areas that suffer from terrorist attack, but most of the country isn' like that. Iraq IS NOT in the middle of a civil war. Iraq is not a front in a war.

At worst, to use terminolgy that was popular with Democrat under Clinton, we're engaged in a "peace keeping" operation in Iraq right now.

...once we go into Iran and still manage to protect our borders from all those pissed off Iranian fundamentalist looking for an excuse to get their virgin rewards.

So, for the sake of discussion, how would you like the U.S. to address the problem of a nuclear Iran?

Personally, I do not think the country is prepared or ready to handle another war in light of how Iraq is going so hopefully Bushco will have a solid plan this time around.[/QUOTE]

 

[fossten]

This guy is amazing....

What will truly be amazing is how we're going to pull off fighting on two fronts once we go into Iran and still manage to protect our borders from all those pissed off Iranian fundamentalist looking for an excuse to get their virgin rewards.

Personally, I do not think the country is prepared or ready to handle another war in light of how Iraq is going so hopefully Bushco will have a solid plan this time around.

I think we should back off and let the Europeans handle it. After all, they did such a good job last time against Hitler. I mean, it's not like Iran's really a threat or anything. Let's just deter them like we did the Soviets for 50 years. Maybe 50 years from now the Iranian wall will come down and they'll come around. Meanwhile, we can simply go back to Carter/Clinton tactics and just let them do whatever they want.

Who says they'll use a bomb on us anyway?

Hitler:

Conquer Europe, take territory, exterminate Jews.

Ahmadinejadwhateverhisnameis:

Destroy America and...the JEWS!

Anybody sense a pattern here? Like it or not, Deville, we will be at war with Iran at some point. Would you rather do it now and get it over with BEFORE they can really hurt us, or wait until they start vaporizing our cities?

Your choice.

 

[MonsterMark]

I think our government needs to change the way it runs. We should not have all our eggs (leaders) in one basket (Washington). This whole State of the Union thing has to come to an end. Gee, let's put all our leaders under one roof. You know, the Prez, VP, Supreme Court, Joints Chiefs of Staff, even Democrats. It is so silly at this stage of this world conflict.

What has to happen for the United States to really wake up and take this war on terror seriously? We need a WMD hit. Nuclear or biological. Sad to say, but that it what it is going to take.

9/11 was akin to a slap in the face. Sure, it hurt and was offensive, but you can brush it off, say to yourself, turn the other cheek. But what happens when somebody jumps on us, punches us in the face and starts kicking us again and again when were on the ground? By then, it may be too late.

It really bothers me to know that we will face annihilation in my lifetime. Barry wants me to worry about the debt my kids will have to repay. That is not my worry. Having our country around to raise my kids is more my concern. A nuclear bomb will go off, probably somewhere in the US. We will all freak. Panic will sweep the nation. Riots and pillaging will take over every major city. Forget about your stocks and bonds. Forget about gas to go the store. Life will forever change. We have a chance to stop a least one threat (Iran) now. But our nation has neutered itself. The Left and the DBM (Drive By Media) is making almost impossible for our leaders to do the right thing now, while we can, before the damage is done. Sadly, we will have to wait to be punched in the face and curled up on the ground before we will start to act.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that is how it is going to have to go down.

 

[TheDude]

I am not saying Iran isn't a threat and that we shouldn't go in. Just how are we going to go about it, I don't think we would be able to manage an effective war while own our house (America) is divided like it is, that's my concern. I know Iran is seen as a rogue nation and has demonstrated it's radical thinking in the past, but when it comes down to it, they're holding a pee-shooter compared to what we have, I am not certain Ahmadinejad is willing to be obliterated off the map for the sake of destroying one, possibly two cities, but that is risky thinking. I can see his ass giving the order to nuke after we go in as a last resort to spite us for certain though. So if something starts with Iran, it's going to have to be a full scale war seen through to the end and that goes back to my earlier post, can we afford it at this time with our current problems in Iraq and at home? I am not confident we can... But of course that will bring up the question "Can we afford not to?" which I do not have the answer for, if I did, I'd be a politician.

 

[TheDude]

We can send them plenty of virginians to whoop their asses! no virgins though.

why do they want a virgin? seriously...

They get 73 virgins, but I don't know why they'd want them either.

 

[fossten]

I am not saying Iran isn't a threat and that we shouldn't go in. Just how are we going to go about it, I don't think we would be able to manage an effective war while own our house (America) is divided like it is, that's my concern. I know Iran is seen as a rogue nation and has demonstrated it's radical thinking in the past, but when it comes down to it, they're holding a pee-shooter compared to what we have, I am not certain Ahmadinejad is willing to be obliterated off the map for the sake of destroying one, possibly two cities, but that is risky thinking. I can see his ass giving the order to nuke after we go in as a last resort to spite us for certain though. So if something starts with Iran, it's going to have to be a full scale war seen through to the end and that goes back to my earlier post, can we afford it at this time with our current problems in Iraq and at home? I am not confident we can... But of course that will bring up the question "Can we afford not to?" which I do not have the answer for, if I did, I'd be a politician.

You...just...don't...get it, do you?

1. Iran is willing to use nukes not only on us, but on Israel more specifically.
2. Iran doesn't have to pull the trigger, Ahmad*** (who's crazy) sponsors terrorists that can sneak across our Mex border, see where I'm going?
3. Pea-shooter compared to what we have? That's a pre-9/11 mentality. Do you not remember that 3,000+ people died in a NON-nuclear attack? How many do you think would die if a 5-kiloton bomb detonated in Times Square? The issue is that he's already stated that he's willing to use nukes on Israel and is waving the gun in our direction.
4. How we go about it is PREVENT THEM FROM GETTING NUKES! Jeez. You don't get it. If we sit and do nothing, Israel will attack them. You want that?
5. They get 72 virgins, not 73.

 

[TheDude]

You...just...don't...get it, do you?

1. Iran is willing to use nukes not only on us, but on Israel more specifically.
2. Iran doesn't have to pull the trigger, Ahmad*** (who's crazy) sponsors terrorists that can sneak across our Mex border, see where I'm going?
3. Pea-shooter compared to what we have? That's a pre-9/11 mentality. Do you not remember that 3,000+ people died in a NON-nuclear attack? How many do you think would die if a 5-kiloton bomb detonated in Times Square? The issue is that he's already stated that he's willing to use nukes on Israel and is waving the gun in our direction.
4. How we go about it is PREVENT THEM FROM GETTING NUKES! Jeez. You don't get it. If we sit and do nothing, Israel will attack them. You want that?
5. They get 72 virgins, not 73.

I...guess...not... Maybe you're privy to better news than I am.

If a nuke where to go off in any American city, who would be the most likely culprit? Ahmadinejad/Iran would and he'd be crapping his pants like Saddam was on 9/11 knowing that a serious ass kicking would be coming, in this case a nuclear ass kicking turning Iran into the world largest piece of glass.

Let me ask you (or anyone), what do you think we do about this loud mouth making threats? Do we tactically destroy any nuclear producing facility and hope he's cool with it? Or do we do what we did in Iraq, destroy the military, capture/kill Ahmadinejad and set up camp?

 

[Dominus]

I think our government needs to change the way it runs. We should not have all our eggs (leaders) in one basket (Washington). This whole State of the Union thing has to come to an end. Gee, let's put all our leaders under one roof. You know, the Prez, VP, Supreme Court, Joints Chiefs of Staff, even Democrats. It is so silly at this stage of this world conflict.

What has to happen for the United States to really wake up and take this war on terror seriously? We need a WMD hit. Nuclear or biological. Sad to say, but that it what it is going to take.

9/11 was akin to a slap in the face. Sure, it hurt and was offensive, but you can brush it off, say to yourself, turn the other cheek. But what happens when somebody jumps on us, punches us in the face and starts kicking us again and again when were on the ground? By then, it may be too late.

It really bothers me to know that we will face annihilation in my lifetime. Barry wants me to worry about the debt my kids will have to repay. That is not my worry. Having our country around to raise my kids is more my concern. A nuclear bomb will go off, probably somewhere in the US. We will all freak. Panic will sweep the nation. Riots and pillaging will take over every major city. Forget about your stocks and bonds. Forget about gas to go the store. Life will forever change. We have a chance to stop a least one threat (Iran) now. But our nation has neutered itself. The Left and the DBM (Drive By Media) is making almost impossible for our leaders to do the right thing now, while we can, before the damage is done. Sadly, we will have to wait to be punched in the face and curled up on the ground before we will start to act.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that is how it is going to have to go down.

I find that next to impossible to believe.

Nukes are about political power, not military power.

The US and Russia proved again and again that nukes are nothing but a bargaining chip.

It's not even mutually assured destruction in the case of Iran. We might lose a few cities, and Iran will be wiped off the face of the map. Why would Iran do such a thing?

 

[fossten]

I...guess...not... Maybe you're privy to better news than I am.

If a nuke where to go off in any American city, who would be the most likely culprit? Ahmadinejad/Iran would and he'd be crapping his pants like Saddam was on 9/11 knowing that a serious ass kicking would be coming, in this case a nuclear ass kicking turning Iran into the world largest piece of glass.

Let me ask you (or anyone), what do you think we do about this loud mouth making threats? Do we tactically destroy any nuclear producing facility and hope he's cool with it? Or do we do what we did in Iraq, destroy the military, capture/kill Ahmadinejad and set up camp?

Neither. We wipe out his nuclear facilities and to hell with what he thinks. You said it yourself: What can he do? He's got a pea-shooter compared to us.

Understand that what I'm about to say is purely strategic and not political:

We don't need to invade Iran. Just set Ahmad*** back another 5 or 10 years so the Iraq situation can stabilize fully. Future presidents can deal with Iran at that time, and besides, there might be a different government in place by then, depending on what we do with that region democratically. If Iraq is strong enough by then, Iraq can deal with Iran as our proxy.

 

[fossten]

I find that next to impossible to believe.

Nukes are about political power, not military power.

The US and Russia proved again and again that nukes are nothing but a bargaining chip.

It's not even mutually assured destruction in the case of Iran. We might lose a few cities, and Iran will be wiped off the face of the map. Why would Iran do such a thing?

You are extremely naive and ill-informed. Bargaining chip my a$$. You really believe the Russians abided by all the treaties they signed? Don't make me laugh. We only won the cold war when Reagan bankrupted the Soviets.

Iran's leader isn't like the Soviet leaders; they were all greedy dictators, but Ahmad*** is a wacko religious nutjob fanatic. He will use nukes if he gets them. That means the climate has changed - nukes are NO LONGER bargaining chips when it comes to wackos like him - they ARE about military power. Didn't you hear him say that Israel should be wiped off the map? Do you really think he was talking figuratively?

 

[Joeychgo]

Let me ask you (or anyone), what do you think we do about this loud mouth making threats? Do we tactically destroy any nuclear producing facility and hope he's cool with it? Or do we do what we did in Iraq, destroy the military, capture/kill Ahmadinejad and set up camp?

Close - all except for the set up camp part.

Iran has a growing pro west population. Do some research. If we started the war correctly, they might just finish it. How do we start? Remember the air war in Iraq 1990? We do that, while sending operatives to contact and influence the younger, pro west crowd.

 

[Vitas]

We do that, while sending operatives to contact and influence the younger, pro west crowd.

Could you please make this a complete thought?

TIA

 

[fossten]

Close - all except for the set up camp part.

Iran has a growing pro west population. Do some research. If we started the war correctly, they might just finish it. How do we start? Remember the air war in Iraq 1990? We do that, while sending operatives to contact and influence the younger, pro west crowd.

Don't look now, Joey, but you and I agree on something.