As a reminder going into tonights debate - Twenty Big Bush Debate Lies

Joeychgo

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Mar 2, 2004
Messages
6,044
Reaction score
193
Location
Chicago, IL
Twenty Big Bush Debate Lies

edited by Jerry Politex

1. "Bush hailed the coming presidential election in Afghanistan, saying that the fact that 10 million people had registered to vote was a "phenomenal statistic." But Human Rights Watch this week said that figure was inaccurate because of the multiple registrations of many voters. In a lengthy report, the respected organization also documented how human rights abuses are fueling a pervasive atmosphere of repression and fear in many parts of the country, with voters in those areas having little faith in the secrecy of the balloting and often facing threats and bribes from militia factions." (WP, 10/1/04)

2. "On North Korea, Bush charged that Kerry's proposal to have direct talks with that country would end the six-nation diplomacy that the administration has pursued over Pyongyang's nuclear ambitions. Kerry has said he would continue the six-party talks as well. Bush said direct talks with North Korea would drive away China, a key player in the negotiations. But each of the other four countries in the talks has held direct talks with North Korea during the six-party process -- and China has repeatedly asked the Bush administration to talk directly with North Korea. Moreover, the Bush administration has talked directly with North Korean diplomats on the sidelines of the six-party talks, and Secretary of State Colin L. Powell met with his North Korean counterpart over the summer." (WP, 10/1/04)

3. "In a fierce debate over nuclear proliferation, Bush asserted: "Libya has disarmed. The A.Q. Khan network has been brought to justice." He was referring to a nuclear smuggling ring based in Pakistan. But many experts also credit the patient diplomacy started in the Clinton administration for persuading Libya to cooperate. Moreover, Khan, a national hero in Pakistan, was pardoned by President Pervez Musharraf, and not a single person involved in his network has been prosecuted anywhere. Yesterday, in fact, the International Atomic Energy Agency complained that it had been prevented from interviewing Khan." (WP, 10/01/04)

4. "Bush said he has increased spending on curbing nuclear proliferation by "about 35 percent" since he took office. But in his first budget, he proposed a 13 percent cut -- about $116 million -- and much of the increases since then have been added by Congress." (WP, 10/1/04)

5. "Bush said "Saddam Hussein had no intention of disarming." Yet Iraq asserted in its filing with the United Nations in December 2002 that it had no such weapons, and none has been found. The Bush administration invaded Iraq because it believed Hussein was concealing stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction. Some post-invasion reports have argued that Hussein retained the capability to restart his weapons programs, but many experts consider that doubtful as long as he remained under U.N. sanctions and inspections." (WP, 10/1/04)

6. "Bush also overstated the case when he corrected Kerry by saying that the senator forgot to mention that Poland supplied forces when the invasion began. Kerry said there were three countries that did -- Britain, Australia and the United States -- and Bush said, "actually he forgot Poland." Poland later supplied troops and commanded a zone in Iraq. But, except for a few commandos, Polish troops were not part of the original ground invasion." (WP, 10/1/04)

7. " As part of his case that Kerry has sent mixed messages, Bush asserted that "he voted against the $87 billion supplemental to provide equipment for our troops, and then said he actually did vote for it before he voted against it." While Bush meant it as a jab, this was an accurate description of the Senate process. Kerry supported a different version of the bill, which was opposed by the administration. At the time, many Republicans were uncomfortable with the administration's plans and the White House had to threaten a veto against the congressional version to bring reluctant lawmakers in line. In a floor statement explaining his vote, Kerry said he favored the $67 billion for the troops on the ground, but he faulted the administration's $20 billion request for reconstruction." (WP, 10/1/04)

8. "Bush cited as a sign of progress in Iraq that the US is "spending reconstruction money," when in fact the slow pace of spending has become a major problem for US officials. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage testified to a House Appropriations subcommittee Sept. 24 that only $1.2 billion in reconstruction money had actually been spent so far , out of the total of $18 billion that was appropriated last December in "emergency" funds for Iraq and Afghanistan. (FC, 10/01/04)

9. "Bush also said "100,000 troops" and other Iraqi security personnel have been trained to date. That's the official figure, but the President failed to mention that many trainees have received nothing more than a three-week course in police procedures -- what Armitage referred to as "shake-and-bake" forces. Only 8,000 of the total are police who have received a full eight-week course of training." (FC, 10/1/04)

10. "The President misquoted Kerry's position on how quickly troops might be withdrawn from Iraq. Bush claimed Kerry once said "I'll have them out of there in six months," which is false. Kerry complained, "he's misled us again." What Kerry actually said was that he believed he could "significantly reduce" US troop levels in Iraq within six months of taking office -- not at all the same thing as having all troops "out of there." (FC, 10/1/04)

11. "The President said twice that "75 percent" of al Qaeda leaders have been "brought to justice." But as The Associated Press reported Oct. 1, Bush was referring to the deaths or arrests of 75 percent of bin Laden's network at the time of the September 11 attacks -- not those who are running the terrorist organization today. The AP also reported that the CIA said earlier in the year two-thirds of those leaders are gone; at his acceptance speech in September, Bush increased his count to three-fourths based on unreleased intelligence data.Furthermore, the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies reported May 25 that the occupation of Iraq has helped al Qaeda recruit more members. The institute quoted "conservative" intelligence estimates as saying that al Qaeda has 18,000 potential operatives and is present in more than 60 countries." (FC, 10/1/04)

12. "The president suggested that the war in Iraq was connected to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, saying, "The enemy attacked us." The federal Sept. 11 commission, however, said that so far, it found no evidence "indicating that Iraq cooperated with al-Qaida in developing or carrying out any attacks against the United States." In addition, Defense Intelligence Agency analysts concluded in several papers in 2002 that even if Iraq possessed chemical or biological weapons, it was unlikely to give them to al-Qaida or other terrorist groups." (KR, 10/1/04)

13. "Kerry was correct that while Bush promised he'd plan carefully for a war in Iraq, his administration ignored a huge State Department "Future of Iraq" project, ignored intelligence warnings that the country could descend into chaos and failed to include enough troops to secure the country's borders, nuclear plants and ammunition dumps. Kerry also was right that the only government building in Baghdad that was guarded by American troops after the city fell was the oil ministry." (KR, 10/1/04)

14. "Bush's main line of attack all evening was his charge that Kerry keeps changing positions on Iraq. In fact, while Kerry admitted Thursday night that he hasn't always expressed himself clearly, he's never backed away from his vote authorizing the war and he's always said that Bush should have sought more international help. When he voted for the war resolution in October 2002, Kerry made it clear that he favored a "multilateral effort" if diplomacy failed." (KR, 10/1/04)

15. "The Claim: The difficulties facing the U.S. in Iraq are a product of foreign terrorists showing up to fight the America there.

Reality Check: The U.S. military on the ground says that the overwhelming majority of the insurgents fighting the U.S. in Iraq are Iraqis, not foreigners." (TIME, 10/1/04)

16. "The Claim: President Bush says he tried diplomacy in Iraq, and went to war only when it failed.

Reality Check: Numerous accounts from within the U.S. and allied governments suggest the Bush Administration had decided to invade Iraq even before it went to the UN in the fall of 2002, and had gone back to the international body only under pressure from moderates in its own ranks and from Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair. The termination of the UN inspection process had nothing to do with its progress; it was based primarily on the window of opportunity for an invasion presented by the seasonal calendar." (TIME, 10/1/04)

17. "The Claim: Saddam Hussein would have grown stronger had the invasion not occurred. Reality Check: The decrepit state of the Iraqi military, its negligible pursuit of prohibited weapons, and the widespread internal rot of the regime that emerged after it collapsed showed that, in fact, containment had succeeded in weakening Saddam Hussein  although an enormous cost to Iraq's civilian population." (TIME, 10/1/04)

18. " The Claim: A free Iraq will help secure Israel. Reality Check: The bulk of Iraq's Arab majority, both Sunni and Shiite, hold the same hostile view of Israel as their brethren throughout the Arab world. While elements of one particular faction of the formerly exiled opposition (Ahmed Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress) have suggested that ties with Israel could be established, there's no evidence to support the claim that an Iraqi government reflective of the popular will would be any warmer toward Israel than any of its neighbors." (TIME, 10/1/04)

19. " The Claim: We have 30 nations in our coalition; our coalition is strong. Reality Check: There isn't a single Arab country in the coalition, in contrast to the wide Arab participation in the Gulf War. And the U.S. and Britain between them provided more than 90 percent of the troops. Moreover, eight of the countries that initially joined the U.S. have since pulled out their soldiers, and more are expected to follow. Efforts to persuade Muslim countries to send troops have foundered." (TIME, 10/1/04) 20. "Striving for emotional effect rather than precision, he seemed at times to conflate Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and the terrorists who attacked a Russian school into a single adversary." (BDC, 10/1/04)

 
THE KERRY LIES
As I listened to the news, I was stunned by the blatant lies being put forth by one Senator John Kerry.

He ranted and raved about how Bush is using the troops for political purposes. He is cutting their pay, their benefits and if HE were President, he would fix all that. I guess Kerry has had some private revelation about how the troops are being taken care of because nothing he said is even vaguely true. He has been and voted anti-military for decades. We do not need another military hating liberal in the White House. Now is NOT the time. It will be our undoing.

He compared Iraq to Vietnam. You know that war where he said he threw his medals away in protest. Well, not really. He threw someone else's. His are in a case on the wall behind his desk. It was the war that he used to put himself in the public light so he could get elected. He claims Bush is using the war for political reasons. What crap. (Gosh, what is HE doing right now?) Kerry said we need to send more troops. That Bush needs to listen to the Congress in regard to managing the war. We need to crawl to the U.N. because WE just can't handle the situation. That's what got us into trouble in Viet Nam! NOT LISTENING TO THE MILITARY MEN! Instead, LBJ and his democrat congress tried to run the war and you see how it ended up. The General in command in Iraq has said repeatedly that he DOES NOT NEED more troops. He needs more cops! He needs more engineers. He doesn't want OUR troops guarding bridges and buildings where they will just be targets. But Kerry thinks he knows it all. Like Gore, he feels a couple of years in the military, which he decried for years, is suddenly some banner for him to wear. He apparently thinks no one will look up his abysmal record when it comes to shafting the military and the men and women in them. He's wrong.

He said he has long advocated all things good for our military. RUBBISH! I can't believe he can even stand up in front of veterans, who have served this country and lie to them like that.

Here is a sample of his record: Kerry was lieutenant governor under Dukakis, one of the worst Governors in history. He was thrashed when he ran for President. Kerry was all for the passes for murderers and rapists which, once enacted, resulted in the rapes and murders of innocent people. He wants taxpayers to pay for all abortions on demand, including the partial birth murders.

Kerry Has Voted Against A Balanced Budget Amendment At Least Five Times.
Kerry Voted Against President Bush's Tax Cuts, At Least The Tenth Key Anti-Tax Relief Vote Of His Senate Career.

Kerry Voted For The Biggest Tax Increase In American History Under President Clinton.

Kerry Has Voted For At Least Seven Major Reductions In Defense And Military Spending Necessary For Our National Security.

In 1996, Introduced Bill To Slash Defense Department Funding By $6.5 Billion.
In 1995, Voted To Freeze Defense Spending For 7 Years, Slashing Over $34 Billion From Defense.
Fiscal 1996 Budget Resolution – Defense Freeze. “Harkin, D-Iowa, amendment to freeze defense spending for the next seven years and transfer the $34.8 billion in savings to education and job training.”
In 1993, Introduced Plan To Cut Numerous Defense Programs, Including:

Cut the number of Navy submarines and their crews

Reduce the number of light infantry units in the Army down to one

Reduce tactical fighter wings in the Air Force

Terminate the Navy’s coastal mine-hunting ship program

Force the retirement of no less than 60,000 members of the Armed Forces in one year.

Has Voted Repeatedly To Cut Defense Spending, Including:

In 1993, Voted Against Increased Defense Spending For Military Pay Raise. Kerry voted to kill an increase in military pay over five years.

In 1992, Voted To Cut $6 Billion From Defense.
In 1991, Voted To Slash Over $3 Billion From Defense, Shift Money To Social Programs.
In 1991, Voted To Cut Defense Spending By 2%.
Has Voted Repeatedly To Cut Or Eliminate Funding For B-2 Stealth Bomber. Has Voted Repeatedly Against Missile Defense. Weapons Kerry Sought To Phase Out Were Vital In Iraq. “[K]erry supported cancellation of a host of weapons systems that have become the basis of US military might -- the high-tech munitions and delivery systems on display to the world as they leveled the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein in a matter of weeks.” (Brian C. Mooney, “Taking One Prize, Then A Bigger One,” The Boston Globe, 6/19/03)

Military hardware he felt we no longer need since the "cold war" is past. The money would be better spent on "social" programs. These weapons are now the core of our military might.

F-16 Fighting Falcons.

B-1Bs B-2As F-15 And F-16s.

M1 Abrams.

Patriot Missile.

AH-64 Apache Helicopter

Tomahawk Cruise Missile.

Aegis Air-Defense Cruiser

During 1980s, Kerry And Michael Dukakis Joined Forces With Liberal Group Dedicated To Slashing Defense. Kerry sat on the board of “Jobs With Peace Campaign,” which sought to “develop public support for cutting the defense budget…”(“Pentagon Demonstrators Call For Home-Building, Not Bombs,” The Associated Press, 6/3/88)

Running For Congress In 1972, Kerry Promised To Cut Defense Spending. “On what he’ll do if he’s elected to Congress, Kerry said he would ‘bring a different kind of message to the president.’ He said he would vote against military appropriations.” (“Candidate’s For Congress Capture Campus In Andover,” Lawrence [MA] Eagle-Tribune, 4/21/72)

“So you can look at all the potential threats of the world, and when you add the expenditures of all of our allies to the United States of America, you have to stop and say to yourself, ‘What is it that we are really preparing for in a post-cold-war world?’”(Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 5/15/96, p. S5061)


Apparently, Kerry was blissfully unaware of any of the multitude of terror attacks and threats against the country. If we had listened to him, we would have no military at all.

Kerry was also one of those who helped castrate our CIA and intelligence gathering, which, along with Clinton's total ignoring of the problem, led to 9/11 and the present global war on terror we are now fighting.

What upsets me most about this man is how easily he can LIE. Just like Bill. He even makes himself look like a Kennedy clone and married a woman rolling in money who would be an embarrassment as First Lady. (Almost as bad as Hillary, but more honest about it) I don't care if he was in the military. I don't care if he was in Viet Nam. He is a socialist and thus he abhors the military. He can write his time off in the service as "youthful indiscretion".

He is a Liar. If you value your freedom, your very life and that of your children, don't even consider voting for this man. It may well be the last vote you live to make. This man could no more conduct the war we are facing than my 4 year old Grandson. NOTE: My grandson might even be better.

Sources:

http://www.rnc.org/Newsroom/RNCResearch/Research012303.htm

http://www.rnc.org/newsroom/rncresearch/research071803.htm

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=104_cong_bills&docid=f:s1580is.txt.pdf
 
Wednesday, Oct. 6, 2004



Teresa Urges Democrats to 'Vote Often'

"Vote early and vote often" has long been the Democrat establishment's slogan. Now, as the party cranks up its election fraud machine more zealously than ever before, Teresa Heinz Kerry has a slight update:



"Vote often and vote well."



That's what the aspiring first lady said during a recent appearance in Minneapolis. When readers first alerted us, we found the claims too outrageous to believe, but we tracked down her quotation in the liberal St. Paul Pioneer Press. There is one positive aspect to the appallingly cynical comment: At least she didn't say it in a Chicago cemetery.

 
Mine came from FactCheck.org - not one party or the other like yours. Yeah, I trust the RNC over factcheck.org
 

Members online

No members online now.
Back
Top