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Reprinted from NewsMax.com

Author Blames 9/11 On 'Cultural Left'
Paul Crespo
Tuesday, Jan. 16, 2007

"The Enemy at Home: The Cultural Left and Its Responsibility for 9/11" By Dinesh D'Souza, Random House, Inc., 352 pages, $26.95

When it comes to laying blame for Sept. 11 – the greatest attack on U.S. soil since Pearl Harbor – one of America's foremost thinkers says it doesn't lay with the terrorists.

Instead, America's enemies are right beneath our noses. Dinesh D'Souza identifies them as our "cultural left."

D'Souza is the best-selling author of "Illiberal Education: The Politics of Race and Sex on Campus," and helped coin the term political correctness. His latest controversial work is appropriately called "The Enemy at Home: The Cultural Left and Its Responsibility for 9/11" (Random House).

Although it has been officially embargoed before its release on Tuesday, January 16, it is already drawing some heavy gunfire from the left.

Their anger begins with D'Souza's own words: "In this book I make a claim that will seem startling at the outset. The cultural left in this country is responsible for causing 9/11."


For sure, even some conservatives may do a double-take on that charge.

But before every liberal in America blows a collective gasket, the term "cultural left" to D'Souza doesn't refer to the Democratic Party, or to all liberals. Nor is he saying that anyone on the cultural left actually attacked us on 9/11. And the book avoids much of the strident rhetoric seen in other "liberal-bashing" books.

"I am saying that the cultural left and its allies in Congress, the media, Hollywood, the nonprofit sector, and the universities are the primary cause of the volcano of anger toward America that is erupting from the Islamic world," explains D'Souza.

These are the true "root causes" liberals are always looking for, but seem to always miss or get wrong.

What he means by this is that the secular progressive left during the past few decades, with its focus on promoting and even glorifying (at home and abroad) what most of the world's more traditional societies see as depravity and atheism, has provoked a backlash among traditional, moderate Muslims who see their religious and moral values threatened by an aggressive, immoral, anti-religious crusade.

According to D'Souza, this backlash is being co-opted by the radicals and extremists who have turned it into a radical jihad against the West.

In a sense, he says, Muslims are right: The West (led by the American left) is waging a war against Islam, just as it is waging a war against traditional Christianity.

Muslims are not enraged by our political freedom or democracy, but by the left's abuse of that freedom, specifically the excessive sexualization of our society.

This decadence repulses most of the world's traditional and religious societies, just as it repulses and angers religious conservatives at home. D'Souza argues that American Christians and traditionalists have more in common with moderate traditional Muslims than they may realize. Ultimately, we should make common political cause with them to fight the cultural radicals, says D'Souza.

While D'Souza admits many Muslims irrationally hate Israel and some specific aspects of U.S. foreign policy, he argues that the growing anti-Americanism abroad is directed more at the global spread of our debased pop culture and the leftist political ideas that liberals so proudly defend. Family collapse, "gay marriage," licentiousness, pornography, abortion on demand, the war against religion in the public square – are all threats to traditional values in the West, as well as in the Muslim world.

Though many Muslims believe their fight is against "America" and the West, they are really fighting the secular left. Muslim extremists may never be convinced of that distinction, but D'Souza argues the majority of traditional, nonradical Muslims can be.

Yes, some debauchery exists in every culture, he says, but many see us proudly parade our perversions and then try to aggressively export them worldwide. Most are repulsed.

Radical Muslims are simply fighting back with violence. "Thus without the cultural left, 9/11 would not have happened. I realize that this is a strong charge," D'Souza writes, "one that no one has made before."

D'Souza seems to downplay the violent, centuries-long jihadist tradition within Islam that began with Muhammad. Islam is not known for being a purely defensive religion, and by accepting many of the radicals' arguments, are we in fact justifying their actions and emboldening them further?

So far some in America's cultural left have gone into pre-emptive apoplectic rage based solely on the publisher's introduction letter.

For example, James Wolcott of Vanity Fair, who seems not to have read the book, admitted he took an "instant animus" against it. He says: "But this is a special book, deserving special mistreatment ... I prefer to do the irresponsible thing and declare war on Dinesh D'Souza and his stinking mackerel of a book starting now."

And so he does. Immersed in a cesspool of personal invective and unfounded hysterical accusations, Wolcott goes on to nitpick some relatively insignificant details in the book, apparently selected at random, while missing the totality of D'Souza's argument.

His response to D'Souza's comment that no one had made the charge before about the left's culpability for 9/11: "The reason it hasn't been made before," screams Wolcott, "is that it's a sleazy, shameless, ignorant, ahistorical, tendentious, meretricious lie, one that was waiting for the right brazen liar to come along to promote it."

Yet Wolcott in no way refutes the arguments D'Souza uses to buttress his case. Instead, he repeats the old, worn-out charges that America asked for 9/11 because of our militarism, support for Israel, imperialism, etc.

Another attack on the book came from liberal scribe Mark Warren, who viciously lambasted it in a "letter" to the author published in Esquire magazine.

He accuses D'Souza of "tortured logic" in an "utterly incoherent book" and goes so far as to challenge D'Souza: "Defend your ideas with your blood. To be clear: Let's fight."

Warren writes: "We knew how much [Islamic fundamentalists] hated America. We just didn't have a full grasp, until now, of how much you and your crazy cohort hate America. Because you have taken to heart the ‘Islamic critique of Western moral depravity,' as you call it, and have come down on their side of things.

"You actually seek to blame your free-speaking moral inferiors here in America for giving bin Laden no choice but to kill us. And in nothing short of derangement, you imagine a ‘de facto alliance' between the American ‘cultural left' and Islamic fundamentalism."

D'Souza's argument may be new to many Americans, even conservatives, because few have bothered to look closely enough at the Muslim world to see what many traditional Muslims dislike about the United States, and then connect that to the internal "culture war" going on in America.

Because D'Souza, a conservative Christian, grew up in India surrounded by traditional Muslims and Hindus, but also is well versed in the political and cultural clashes in America, he was well suited to do just that.

D'Souza makes a compelling case that deserves careful reading. Along the way he methodically dispels several myths, including the liberal idea that Muslims are reacting to our "imperialist" foreign policy and the conservative view that America is a highly religious country.

By looking for common cause with traditional Islam against the radical Muslims, D'Souza may make some Christians queasy. But his point is that not doing so will only increase the jihad against us.

"The Enemy at Home" is a well-written, iconoclastic, thought-provoking book. Anyone who wants a different take on the war on terror and the overlooked motivations of the jihadists who want to kill us (along with their strange fellow travelers on the far left) should read this book.
 
D'Souza's books are always well thought out and very interesting. The titles of his books, chapters and articles are usually attention grabbers, though. I am reading his book on Reagan right now. I will probably pick this one up and read it to (when time allows).
 
fossten said:
Let's see how many people actually read this article before they comment on it.

I read the article, and will probably read the book, if I ever find myself in the mood to read something of this nature. I must say, this is definitely a unique perspective, and one that should be given much more heed than its critics are allowing.
 
Interesting how this author's flawed logic, that 9/11 which was caused by radical Muslims, who's hate towards the US was caused by the "cultural left", and therefore the "cultural left" is to blame for 9/11, is just like blaming GM or Ford for building the car or Jack Daniel's for making the wiskey that is used by the drunk driver to kill innocent people. Yet the poster and the authors' supporters embrace this leap of logic, despite their allegations that this type of logic is also used by the "evil liberal trial lawyer" types to displace blame onto manufacturers of goods instead of the individuals that misuse said goods. Additionally, those same people vidicate those radical Muslims "who only want to kill us" and attempt to place the blame on the "cultural left", are no less "traitorous" than the whistleblowers who expose acts of our government that undermine our freedoms and in turn painted as being "traitors". How hypocritical and intelectually dishonest.
 
JohnnyBz00LS said:
Interesting how this author's flawed logic, that 9/11 which was caused by radical Muslims, who's hate towards the US was caused by the "cultural left", and therefore the "cultural left" is to blame for 9/11, is just like blaming GM or Ford for building the car or Jack Daniel's for making the wiskey that is used by the drunk driver to kill innocent people...

Bad analogy there, Johnny. It's more like blaming the abusive mother for the son who goes on a rampage as a serial rapist/killer of older women. Or, blame the aldulterous father for his son's constant marital failures. Sure, the son is still at fault for his own actions, but it was the way the parents chose to influence him which is the root of the problem.

Or here's another example: Two women of equal aesthetic beauty are walking down the same street. One is wearing baggy jeans and a pullover. The other is wearing daisy dukes and a small-fitting halter-top. Which do you expect is most likely to be lusted after, and more probably attacked and raped?

We as a nation need to be more conscious of the image that we portray to the world, and the influence that that image carries. Even many in the secular public would agree that this nation is on its way downhill, morally speaking. We not only publicize, but in many places glorify violence, drug abuse, and sexual promiscuity. So many are worried about being "politically correct" and sensitive to the beliefs and opinions of others in the workplace and such, but too few seem to carry that same concern to our international image.

Let's say a family was living in a room in an apartment complex. A group of people down the hall are known widely for their heavy drug usage, sexual promiscuity, and violent behavior. Not only are they well-known for this, but they are proud of it and gloat about it to everyone. The father has a wife and children to protect from such individuals and/or their influence. What action can this family take?

- Move out: No, this is the only apartment complex that could be found anywhere which is in any condition to be lived in. Any other livable apartments - if they exist - are too far away to travel to.

- Lock the doors: The lock is broken, and the landlord refuses to fix it or allow the father to fix it.

- Ask that the neighbors be removed: The landlord also refuses to remove the troublesome neighbors.

- Take matters into their own hands: This family's livelihood could be at stake. Even if they do not do anything directly to the family, these neighbors pose a standing threat to their safety and security, and are having a strong negative influence upon their culture and children. Something must be done!

The family in question here is the group of people who have declared a jihad upon the US.

The apartment complex is Earth.

The troublesome neighbors are the United States.

Oh, and there actually is no landlord. Sorry.
 
I blame King Richard the Lionhearted for 9/11. Had his crusades succeeded there wouldnt be any muslims.
 
Iszi said:
Bad analogy there, Johnny. It's more like blaming the abusive mother for the son who goes on a rampage as a serial rapist/killer of older women. Or, blame the aldulterous father for his son's constant marital failures. Sure, the son is still at fault for his own actions, but it was the way the parents chose to influence him which is the root of the problem.

I may have used an extreme anology, and yours is better. But it doesn't change the fact that it's all based on flawed logic, and excuses the perpitraitor of the crime. But if you insist on siding with the terrorists against your fellow Americans who are doing nothing but exercising their God-given and country-protected freedom of choice and self-determination............ damn, I'm beginning to sound like Fossten. :bowrofl:
 
I see your point, Johnny. And I'm not saying that we as Americans don't or shouldn't have the freedom to make choices, however prurient or reprobate they might be. God Himself has given us free will, after all.

The point I want to make is that the same people (generally liberals) who go down the more...ehm...shall we say...deviant roads of societal evolution which offend the muslims are the same people who believe that we should not properly defend ourselves against said muslims when they attack us.

It just so happens that, generally, the people who believe in living...shall we say...under a certain moral code...in other words, conservatives and/or Christians...are the same people who advocate having a strong, proactive defense AND offense which doesn't tolerate attacks of any kind on our country.

You sound like you might be the exception to the general rule that I laid out. If so, great. Your hatred for Bush is the major bone of contention that we seem to have.

If we're gonna live in sin, we better be ready to defend ourselves, and we better do it with alacrity.
 
JohnnyBz00LS said:
No argument there. :cool:
Ahh, isn't that cute. David (Fossten) and Johnny (JohnnyBz00LS) agree.

I'm all warm and fuzzy.

And look...here is the happy couple now...

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MonsterMark said:
Ahh, isn't that cute. David (Fossten) and Johnny (JohnnyBz00LS) agree.

I'm all warm and fuzzy.

And look...here is the happy couple now...
I guess Johnny's the one on the left..:eek:
 
Muslims are not enraged by our political freedom or democracy, but by the left's abuse of that freedom, specifically the excessive sexualization of our society.



Utter garbage. Anyone who believes this is a simplistic idiot. There are a multitude of reasons. Everything ranging from our involvement with Israel to our military influence to how we routinely pressure islamic countries to behave in a manner more consistant with our own beliefs - which often violates their religious beliefs -

Its mostly that they perceive that we have no respect for their history and culture and think we're "better" and their animals -- which is pretty much true. That is how we think and we act accordingly, which pisses them off.
 
Joeychgo said:
Muslims are not enraged by our political freedom or democracy, but by the left's abuse of that freedom, specifically the excessive sexualization of our society.



Utter garbage. Anyone who believes this is a simplistic idiot. There are a multitude of reasons. Everything ranging from our involvement with Israel to our military influence to how we routinely pressure islamic countries to behave in a manner more consistant with our own beliefs - which often violates their religious beliefs -

Its mostly that they perceive that we have no respect for their history and culture and think we're "better" and their animals -- which is pretty much true. That is how we think and we act accordingly, which pisses them off.
Look who's doling out the pre-emptive insults: The moderator himself. What sophistry.

There is an obvious flaw in your logic. The Islamic countries love, love, love to sell us oil. They've gotten rich rich rich off us, and they don't seem to mind living in their own decadent fashion off that wealth, oppressing women, restricting religion, and having harems. So they have no excuse. If they want to trade with the West and get rich, the sword cuts both ways.

We align ourselves with Israel for a multitude of reasons, many of which are complicated and you don't know the first thing about. But one of the more obvious reasons is because they are a democratic, benevolent society, which is similar to Western societies, and they are surrounded by sworn enemies which are predominantly malevolent societies. You really should take a World Geography/World politics course before you make blanket statements.

We don't condemn them for being muslim. We condemn them for bombing our women and children. Sorry you don't agree, Joey, but you don't see western countries doing things like that. The worst thing we do is ignore genocide in Darfur, like we did under Clinton.
 
And like we have ignored for the last 7 years under Bush - so dont blame clinton for Darfur -- We condemed them before 9/11 for women's rights, brutality, etc. Of course, I dont like any of those things, but they dont like parts of our culture either.

What I was saying is that they have their reasons for disliking us - which are reasonable to them, considering their culture. Doesnt mean I agree with them.
 
Joeychgo said:
Utter garbage. Anyone who believes this is a simplistic idiot. There are a multitude of reasons. Everything ranging from our involvement with Israel to our military influence to how we routinely pressure islamic countries to behave in a manner more consistant with our own beliefs - which often violates their religious beliefs -

I seem to remember guys like Muhamed Atta and pals enjoying some vanilla scented breasts and crotch shots before their fatal plunges. Sounds like we really corrupted their religious beliefs...so much so they decided to kill themselves.:shifty: I would say they are more on par with the hypocrites in the Democratic Party if you were to ask me.
 
MonsterMark said:
I seem to remember guys like Muhamed Atta and pals enjoying some vanilla scented breasts and crotch shots before their fatal plunges. Sounds like we really corrupted their religious beliefs...so much so they decided to kill themselves.:shifty: I would say they are more on par with the hypocrites in the Democratic Party if you were to ask me.



Perhaps - of course, they alsmo mimic the flip floppers in the republican party that were screaming "Stay the Course" just a few months ago.....
 
Joeychgo said:
Perhaps - of course, they alsmo mimic the flip floppers in the republican party that were screaming "Stay the Course" just a few months ago.....
That makes no sense. They "mimic the flip floppers?"

What about the flip-floppers in the Democrat party who were SCREAMING just a few months ago that we needed a troop surge? And now they are WHINING that a surge is a terrible idea. I guess, according to your logic then, the Democrats are corrupt for changing their minds too. Why can't you see that the Dhimmocrats are nothing but obstructionists who oppose Bush no matter what position he takes, even if it's one of theirs? It's so obvious you have to be a moron to miss it.
 
fossten said:
That makes no sense. They "mimic the flip floppers?"

What about the flip-floppers in the Democrat party who were SCREAMING just a few months ago that we needed a troop surge? And now they are WHINING that a surge is a terrible idea. I guess, according to your logic then, the Democrats are corrupt for changing their minds too. Why can't you see that the Dhimmocrats are nothing but obstructionists who oppose Bush no matter what position he takes, even if it's one of theirs? It's so obvious you have to be a moron to miss it.
I'll be damned if I can find any mention of Democrats calling for a troop surge "a few months ago". Back in 2004, there were calls to increase troop levels, but that was back when there was still a remote possibility of getting things under control.
 
MonsterMark said:
I seem to remember guys like Muhamed Atta and pals enjoying some vanilla scented breasts and crotch shots before their fatal plunges. Sounds like we really corrupted their religious beliefs...so much so they decided to kill themselves.:shifty: I would say they are more on par with the hypocrites in the Democratic Party if you were to ask me.
Are you really serious? They killed themselves because our society corrupted them? Please tell me you're being facetious.

As for hypocrites, you wanna explain what happened to these fine religious leaders?

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Is the "cultural left" to blame for their problems too? Shall I name more on the right who have succumbed to their basest human weaknesses, and violated their claimed "ideals"?

There is no one to blame for our decadent culture except ourselves, ALL of us. The "media" only gives us what we want. After all, they're in it to make money first and foremost.

Americans are addicted to smut, and the media are only too glad to give it to us. Otherwise why the non-stop coverage of non-news events like the Michael Jackson trial or the missing-girl-of-the-month, or this dipsiht in Missouri? Is ANY of this crap worthy of more than a brief mention on the local news? NO. And yet we American eat it up.

And do I need to mention who it is that regularly posts soft-core porn in this very forum? Not that I have a single problem with it, but to say that the "cultural left" is responsible for our descent into decadence is ludicrous in the extreme.

EDIT: I have no idea why these showed up twice. What did I do wrong?

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TommyB said:
I'll be damned if I can find any mention of Democrats calling for a troop surge "a few months ago". Back in 2004, there were calls to increase troop levels, but that was back when there was still a remote possibility of getting things under control.

You are correct. This was in 2004. But so what? They are still flip flopping for political gain. It's Kerry-esque. None of them are acknowledging that they "voted for the surge before they voted against it." Furthermore, the Dems really don't mean what they say, anyway. They are holding these meaningless, posturing votes, symbolically opposing the President's surge plan, but not really killing the money. What does that say to you? They are a bunch of gutless, spineless cowards who really want to lose the war but are afraid of public opinion turning against them should they leave our troops hanging without reinforcements. Barf.

And where do you get off implying that there is no possibility of winning this war now? That sounds like a bunch of left wing anti-war talking points. I guess you're a military strategist, eh? Like Wesley Clark? I suppose we should alert Bush to fire all his generals and put you in charge, since you already know that we can't win this war. What a patriot you must be. [whiny voice] "We're gonna lose, we can't win! Let's just retreat! Waaaaah!"

Hey, is your phone ringing? I think it's Howard Dean calling, he has a job for you.
 
fossten said:
Your hatred for Bush is the major bone of contention that we seem to have.

And likewise for your hatred for dems and liberals:

You are correct. This was in 2004. But so what? They are still flip flopping for political gain. It's Kerry-esque. None of them are acknowledging that they "voted for the surge before they voted against it." Furthermore, the Dems really don't mean what they say, anyway. They are holding these meaningless, posturing votes, symbolically opposing the President's surge plan, but not really killing the money. What does that say to you? They are a bunch of gutless, spineless cowards who really want to lose the war but are afraid of public opinion turning against them should they leave our troops hanging without reinforcements. Barf.

Your hatred has blinded you of even a notion of understanding the dem's postion on this "surge". While I agree this "resolution" was a waste of time, so are the other purely political "resolutions" that the repugs have wasted time voting on, for purely political reasons, like the flag burning ammendment as one example.

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/editorial/16513307.htm

Posted on Sun, Jan. 21, 2007

Resolution won’t change Bush’s tactics

WASHINGTON – The day after the election, President Bush had a moment of clarity. “It was a thumping,” he said of the Democrats’ victory.

His astute political analysis was a succinct description of the 30 lost House seats, the six lost Senate seats and the resulting change from Republican control to Democratic majorities in both houses. Exit polls and surveys since then leave no doubt that the drubbing was voters’ way of venting their anger over the war. Bush wasn’t on the ballot, so any Republican who was served as a stand-in.

How did Bush address the thumping the voters gave him by proxy? He fired Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

And then: nothing. It’s business as usual from the administration on Iraq. Dressing up a troop surge as a “strategy” is an insult to our intelligence. A strategy is a plan to achieve goals. It has measurements, clear responsibilities and methods of holding people accountable for meeting the goals.

Sending in an additional 21,500 troops is a tactic, not a strategy. Either Bush forgot everything he learned at MBA school about strategic planning, or he’s trying to deceive us when he describes 21,500 more troops as a strategy for Iraq.

In fact, describing the dribbling in of 21,500 troops as a “surge” is equally insulting. There are 130,000 military personnel in Iraq now. An additional 21,500 added to the theater over several months is hardly a sudden, sharp increase. A surgette, perhaps, but not a surge.


This would be quibbling over semantics if it were not endemic of Bush’s approach to the invasion and his war on the cheap: poor planning by the civilian leaders and pathetic follow-through by the same crew. Sen. Evan Bayh calls it incompetence. Who, really, can quarrel with that?

But we are where we are, and what’s to be done?

One congressional approach is to pass a resolution saying the surgette isn’t “in the national interest.” This may be therapeutic for some, and it may give a bit of political cover to those Republicans who are fearful of what the 2008 elections will bring them, but it is a dud as far as policy is concerned.

As Sen. Richard Lugar pointed out last week, Congress can’t make the president do or not do anything on the force of a resolution. Resolutions might have a purpose, he said, but “in the face of a determined commander in chief, their utility for American policy is likely to end with their passage.”

Lugar’s recommendation is for lawmakers to “get into the weeds” of Bush’s policy and ask hard questions. Of course, that is the responsible thing for Congress to do as part of its oversight function.

But I wonder whether the outcome of hard questions will be anything more than Lugar’s assessment of the value of a resolution: Diddly.

After all, hard questions have been asked. Lugar himself called more than 30 hearings on Iraq over the past four years when he was chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. Presumably he said the same things in private to the president as he did in public, the essence of which was: What happens when the fighting is over? What’s the plan for rebuilding the country? What are you going to do about the centuries-old hostilities among the sects?

The problem is that Bush doesn’t ask the same kinds of questions and doesn’t appear to care about their answers. If Bush doesn’t think that kind of information is important enough to ask his own defense secretary, national security team and top generals, why would he tune in to C-SPAN to listen to witnesses – some of whom are from his administration – tell Congress the answers?

Congress can’t use persuasion to deflect what Lugar calls a “determined commander in chief” from a policy he’s hellbent on pursuing. What it can do is refuse to pay for it.

But that, too, is a horribly flawed approach. For one thing, some of the 21,500 troops are already being deployed. And once they are there, no one in Congress would ever vote to limit the money that’s available for them to do their jobs.

Alas, yanking on the purse strings may be the only way to reach a president who refuses to hear what the country has been trying so hard to tell him: Show us the light at the end of this very dark tunnel. And if it doesn’t exist, get us out. BuSh's "another 21.5K troops is all we need to win" reminds me of Hank the Tank running naked down the lonely street screaming "We're all going streaking!!! Come on! Everyone is doing it!!"

When Bush invaded Iraq, he said there were three goals: find the caches of weapons of mass destruction (which didn’t exist), depose Saddam Hussein (done) and make Iraq a shining example of democracy in the region. The first two might be conceived as military missions, but forcing any country to democracy shotgun-wedding style is utter folly.

What our leaders must do is find the least damaging option among the list of rotten choices. But Bush and his team have said there is no Plan B, no option other than the surgette.

He will not listen to the country. He will not listen to congressional Democrats. Now that congressional Republicans see what happened to many of their colleagues in November, perhaps their terror of a 2008 repeat is our only hope for making Bush rethink his approach to Iraq.

Face it, BuSh's only strategy here is to buy him enough time to complete his term in office, forfeit a GOP presidency in '08, hand this Iraq mess over to the Dems and pray they fall on their faces. Iraqis and Americans (soldiers and citizens alike) are nowhere near the top of his priority list.
 
Joeychgo said:
And like we have ignored for the last 7 years under Bush - so dont blame clinton for Darfur --

Correction- Bush has NOT ignored Darfur.

His administration has repeatedly addressed the issue at the UN in the effort to motivate an international response.

The U.N. will not do anything.

There was no notable response from the Clinton administration.
 

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