bad gas/filter cause pending random misfires?

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97 Mark VIII, last weekend I swapped out the oil filter gasket, and pressure washed the BOTTOM of the engine, k member, transmission, etc as it was very oily and had coolant also. No problems after doing that, or for 300 miles since doing that. I didn't do the top of the engine, but did do the front lower than the middle, to get the bracket that holds whatever is in in the center of the crank pulley, and the block behind the PS reservoir and pump.

I filled up with 89 octane (started with half a tank of 91, but 91 at the station was 3.89 but 89 was 3.27) and drove half a tank down on that (160 miles on the interstate and a few around town trips). I have to make another longer interstate drive, so I filled up with 91 octane (I always run 91 unless testing something, or this last tank). Within 5 miles of leaving the gas station I feel the car start to stumble and buck when trying to maintain speed, a little hesitation giving it a little throttle, and serious bucking when WOT. Shakes at an idle.

I checked for codes and got a p0306 so I swapped the coil from 6 to 5. I still have the issue, but when I check codes this time (after clearing them) I now get a 304, 305, 306. CEL is NOT on, and it is not bad enough to be blinking, but I assume they are pending and once enough are detected it will trigger the CEL? I haven't gotten the "random misfire" code I have gotten it on moving cylinders every time I check codes and clear them.

Will bad fuel or fuel filter show up like this? anything else that would cause misfires on two different banks and different each time I drive it?

120k on the engine, unknown on the fuel filter, 10k on Motorcraft 32PM plugs, no oil in the plug wells or the coils, boots look solid/new with die-electric grease at the plug end and the seal to the bore. Car has been running decently, I have been trying to track down an intermittent P0174 and it seems to possible have a sucking loud leak that I cannot find.

I think the P0174 is causing it to never go fully ready (always have a P1000) and I of course this is when I have to get it past emissions, but need to get it running better to be able to focus back on the p0174.
 
Gonna be watching this thread like a hawk. Many of us are having similar issues "all of a sudden." I have swapped out almost everything but any in tank items. I think they've changed the formulation for gas and our engines don't like it. I've gone to Lucas Oil Octane Booster and will report back.
 
Last years misfire (I get at least one per year it seems) happened after I got gas too. Thought the petro was at fault but it was just a coincidence as #2 had gone bad. Developed another one last Thursday after a day full of rain, It was bucking like mad when I was trying to enter the hw and was puking @ idle. Never died and it didn't throw a cel, don't think I've ever thrown one for a bad coil.

I lifted each cop about an inch while letting her run so that I could hear for spark, which they all did. Then got some of my spare coils and replaced one at a time ( Make sure you turn the engine off while changing ;) ) until the misfire stopped. In my case it was the very last cop. :rolleyes:

Check the vacuum lines on top of the manifold, they come off and meet at a T. I had an issue years ago with one of those.
 
I only use the best high test gas. Every 2-4 fillups I add 2oz sea foam. All 3 run proper. Winter gas sucks. They put so much junk in it so they can make more $$$$$.
 
Since swapping COPs is easier than the fuel filter (have to take off a wheel and the inner fender?) I swapped all the coils around and mapped them before and after, as well as checked all the plugs and boots. I narrowed it down to one coil. I was watching count of misfires and it was really only one that was getting a bunch, a couple others got them randomly, but not like the one I replaced. I haven't watched them again after replacing the coil, I will do that tonight if I get a chance.

I noticed the pull your own part place got in a 2000 Navigator, and you have to jump on things like that, I pulled 3 COPs from it. They were all swimming in fluid, but these seal better than the 2v coils/boots. 8 bucks a piece, 2 spares (they all work, I have tried them for a few miles each). I know you can get new coils with boots for 12 bucks from RockAuto but I think unknown mileage swimming in coolant OEM ones are better. I didn't get 4 because one was obviously rigged (connector broken, boot zip tied on, no Ford sticker/PN on top) and the passenger side required too many other things to remove to get to them.

I am still going to replace the fuel filter, as that is an unknown, and the maintenance by previous owners was spotty (cannot remove rusted on rotors, then just put on pads, even with 1/8 inch lip on rotor) and since it isn't next to the frame rail like everything else, might not have been done. Ever.

All my cars run horrible first tank of winter gas we get starting Oct 31st, and again March 1st when we go back to the summer blend, but not as bad as this had been running (oddly once over 3000rpm it wasn't noticeable at the end,just at idle and cruise <3000rpm, but WOT it was buck, buck, zoom).
 
Turns out to be at least one IMRC fail on my car. More later when I report back. Very happy to have something that I can work on. Shew.
 
Turns out to be at least one IMRC fail on my car. More later when I report back. Very happy to have something that I can work on. Shew.

A complete failure or is it just stuck? What code?
 
Mine is idling smooth as butter. It has always had enough roughness to it that when the door is completely open that you could see it vibrate, and touching it you could feel it, which really isn't a big deal, but now nothing at all. I have looked at misfires before it was even running real rough and enough to set a pending misfire code, and nothing stood out, it has less than my 2000 Grand Marquis (which it should, as the 00 GM has twice the miles).

I was leaning towards IRMC as well because it is smoothed out at 3,000 rpm. I am 99% sure the previous owners never ran 91/93 octane, so I shudder to think of what the IRMCs look like.
 
It's leaking at the bearing where the shaft goes into the plate. They only checked one side because they are replaced in pairs, I suppose. Did the propane test at that location and the engine smoothed out. I'm going with the deletes and tune because I don't want to replace sixteen year old crap with sixteen year old crap. They were just cleaned when we did the valve cover gaskets, too. But I read on a Mustang forum that a dude did a parts dip on his and it killed what remained of those bearings. He said the material was odd and crumbled when he went to remove it. I figure that I was planning on a tune from Lonnie anyway, so now it is a necessity.
 

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