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I want to put a shift kit into my mark and I checked Baumann website but I cant find what I want. Isn't there a complete valve body replacement I can get. Any help would be great. :feedback
 
i dunno but all the "smart people" over at TOACCA(sp?) slam all shift kits as crap because they increase line pressure 24/7, not just when needed, and will wear out bands , etc eventually. It may take years but will happen. I dunno if this is true but just about 100% agrees that J-Mod is the way to go.
 
Baumann Engineering ALL THE WAY!! Installed hundreds and have put thousands of trouble free miles on them as well.

What exactly makes them $hit? I am curious.
 
BAUMANN ROCKS! :D

Catalog Number: RK-AODE for 92-95 AODE/4R70W
or
Catalog Number: RK-AODE-2 for 96-2000 4R70W

plus 1 of the following...
Catalog Number: PR-1 for AODE/4R70W 92-95
Catalog Number: PR-2 for 96-UP 4R70W
Catalog Number: PR-3 with elevated pressure spring for 96-UP 4R70W

BAUMANN SITE

Go to TCCOA and read the Jmod instructions, then go to my site and read the Baumann INSTRUCTIONS, then YOU decide!

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J-mod and a shift kit are exactly the same thing. With the J-mod you are drilling holes in the seperator plate which will increase line pressure JUST like a shift kit. There really is no difference between them.....in theory.

Baumann ROCKS.....there is NOTHING better than the Baumann....go to the links provided by driller and order away. :Beer
 
ONEBADMK8 said:
Baumann Engineering ALL THE WAY!! Installed hundreds and have put thousands of trouble free miles on them as well.

What exactly makes them $hit? I am curious.
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i'm not sure exactly. Just from what i was reading. They don't like any shift kits....even the Baumann. They talk bad about that too. Anyways, something about shift kits increasing the line pressure continously. Line pressure is good just not 24/7. Eventually this increased line pressure will cause failure of bands (i don't know which bands). Its just a matter of time, supposedly. They love the JMod. They explained the difference btw Jmod and shift kits but i don't remember, i will try to find that link if you want.
 
Most on TCCOA are J-Mod bandwagon riders. I am not talkin trash about the J-Mod, but there is not much difference between the J-Mod and Baumann......except really the price.

I have read most of the posts about the J-Mod and the Baumann over on TCCOA, and like I stated, most of the ppl that talk down about the Baumann kit are J-Mod bandwagon riders. Then you can read about ppl that have the Baumann kit and LOVE it......like I did....when I had the tranny still in my car.

If you want to save cash then go with the J-Mod. If you need tech help that is not answered in the J-Mod 'book' then you are on your own. If you need tech help Greg @ Baumann Engineering is MORE than willing to help. They KNOW alot about the AOD/AODE and have a very knowledgable staff.

Just my $.02. :Beer
 
1wykdmk8 said:
Most on TCCOA are J-Mod bandwagon riders. I am not talkin trash about the J-Mod, but there is not much difference between the J-Mod and Baumann......except really the price.

I have read most of the posts about the J-Mod and the Baumann over on TCCOA, and like I stated, most of the ppl that talk down about the Baumann kit are J-Mod bandwagon riders. Then you can read about ppl that have the Baumann kit and LOVE it......like I did....when I had the tranny still in my car.

If you want to save cash then go with the J-Mod. If you need tech help that is not answered in the J-Mod 'book' then you are on your own. If you need tech help Greg @ Baumann Engineering is MORE than willing to help. They KNOW alot about the AOD/AODE and have a very knowledgable staff.

Just my $.02. :Beer
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Agree fully........Pretty much your choice, almost everyone has had good come from both Baumann, and the JMOD... Wkyd is right if you think you might have some troubles with the job, go with Baumann, then you always have a phone number you can call up.
 
If you bought the Bauman shift kit would it be a good idea to replace the 1-2 and 2-3 accumulator pistons?
 
Lugi20 said:
If you bought the Bauman shift kit would it be a good idea to replace the 1-2 and 2-3 accumulator pistons?
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Sure thing, there cheap and easy to replace and you will already have it apart.
 
Ya at the track the other day, a tccoa guy came up to me and we were talking about are cars and I told him I had a shift kit, he look down and shook his head. He said the cuase more damage then good and never told me why. I just said police cars use them from day one and dont really have problems that im aware of
 
Lugi20 said:
If you bought the Bauman shift kit would it be a good idea to replace the 1-2 and 2-3 accumulator pistons?
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Yes, best idea. Not only replace that, but depending on the year of your car, and how many miles you have on it, you can upgrade other things too. Baumann will ask you what year and how many miles you have on it, then recommend other parts to replace in the tranny. I do not remember the parts, but I purchased them as well and replaced them while I had the valve body out.......Baumann has EXCELLENT tech support and EXTREMELY knowledgable ppl.

The part I do not understand, and maybe someone can explain it to me like I am 2, but if you install a shift kit, or if you do the J-Mod you increase your line pressure inside the tranny. Basically you are modifying the seperator plate that goes between the tranny and the valve body. With the shift kit you are basically doing the same thing. There really is no difference. :Beer
 
MarkOfDeath said:
Ya at the track the other day, a tccoa guy came up to me and we were talking about are cars and I told him I had a shift kit, he look down and shook his head. He said the cuase more damage then good and never told me why. I just said police cars use them from day one and dont really have problems that im aware of
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Mention that you have a "TransGo" in your 4R70W to a TCCoA member and he will declare Modular Jihad on your ass...
 
Repeat, :Read the site's & make your own decision." I did a J-Mod & picked the size holes I needed for the amount of HP I have. The instructions are straight forward if you aren't hesitent about going into your tranny. I know some have bashed Baumen, but they seem really to be praising the J-Mod. Other than price being able to select your hp range, i.e. up to 300, 300 to 450, etc. like others above I think they are the same & actually I don't know that Baumen doesn't give the option to pick hp ranges as well, someone else can tell you that. But as Geno said, change both accumulators. I left the 2/3 spring out & changed top & bottom springs in the 1/2. If yours are not broken, if they haven't been changed, you should change them anyway. Either choice you will love the results. Good luck, Ed :cool:
 
Baumman gives 5 levels, while they don't give specific HP numbers they give the typical application for each level, way more useful than just HP numbers IMO.
 
brentalan said:
Baumman gives 5 levels, while they don't give specific HP numbers they give the typical application for each level, way more useful than just HP numbers IMO.
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well, i have neither, and i need one or the other, and i have ridden in a couple Jmod cars, 1 mark, 1 Bird (mid 13sec blown 3.8 non SuperCoupe) and i havent really liked the shifting from either.. 1-2 is too harsh, engagement into drive/reverse is too harsh, 2-3 shift is too soft.. i have never been in a Baumann equipped car, so i cant compare, but as basically the concensus in this thread is trying to say.. DONT LISTEN TO TCCOI (*cough* i mean TCCOA)
9 out of 10 people over there just recite what someone read and spout it as if they wrote it and believe it as gospel.. its 1 step away from a ricer board..
 
If the 1-2 shift on a J-mod car is too harsh, just keep the lower 1-2 spring in. The 2-3 should come out always...
 
Grifter said:
well, i have neither, and i need one or the other, and i have ridden in a couple Jmod cars, 1 mark, 1 Bird (mid 13sec blown 3.8 non SuperCoupe) and i havent really liked the shifting from either.. 1-2 is too harsh, engagement into drive/reverse is too harsh,
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Too harsh for who?

Grifter said:
2-3 shift is too soft..
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Again, too soft for who? Was it even your car?

Perhaps the owner of the car liked it that way.

I J-modded my Mark VIII to a low setting and found that the shifts weren't strong enough for my liking. So I drilled the holes to a higher setting and things were more to my liking.

The J-Mod can be modded for different shift feels, so don't put a negative conotation on the whole process because you didn't like what the car you rode in was set to.
If I've interpretted the above posts correctly, the Baumann kit also offers different settings.

Grifter said:
i have never been in a Baumann equipped car, so i cant compare, but as basically the concensus in this thread is trying to say.. DONT LISTEN TO TCCOI (*cough* i mean TCCOA)
9 out of 10 people over there just recite what someone read and spout it as if they wrote it and believe it as gospel.. its 1 step away from a ricer board..
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There are a lot of real pros over there too; people who know what they're talking about (Driller; DirtyDog).

Don't ignore what people say purely because those people are just repeating what the pros say; you might be ignoring some good advice.

That said, the J-mod was thought up by someone who helped design the 4R70W; that is a fact. The instructions were easy for me to follow and doing it to my car only cost me the price of a couple of drill bits.
 
on this topic, which POS shift kit company sellsa kit that comes with a solid aluminum 1-2 accum retainer, and solid-wound spring to 'shim" the lower spring in the 1-2?

Because which ever company that is, they're JUNK. I've taken apart 3 trannies so far that came with this "kit" previously installed, and who ever makes it, should be shot.
They cost these poor tranny owner's new cases...The lower 'shim" spring gets cocked sideways once the line pressure is increased, causing case damage, and the solid aluminum retainer comes apart in chunks.

I dont know the Bauman, so I cant say anything(good or bad) about it. I am a JMOD bandwagon rider, and I ride shotgun!
 
which POS shift kit company sellsa kit that comes with a solid aluminum 1-2 accum retainer, and solid-wound spring to 'shim" the lower spring in the 1-2?
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Sounds like TransGo; I remember Jerry blasting them because they did something to the 1-2 assembly similar to what you describe. NEVER use TransGo in a 4R70W transmission; you're asking for trouble sooner or later...
 
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