Bush: The Freedom President?

[MonsterMark]

I guess one could make the argument that he certainly is.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/20/051220134942.8w8uaqyp.html

 

[TheDude]

I guess one could make the argument that he certainly is.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/20/051220134942.8w8uaqyp.html

How's the saying go? 'Those who win the war, write the history books' (?)

 

[fossten]

How's the saying go? 'Those who win the war, write the history books' (?)

That's right. And thank you for admitting that Bush is winning the war. :W to the team.

 

[Calabrio]

Don't mind Deville, he's still upset that Stalin died.

 

[TheDude]

That's right. And thank you for admitting that Bush is winning the war. :W to the team.

Not sure what I admitted, but ok. Also, is it a war still or not? Your leaders go back and forth.

 

[TheDude]

Don't mind Deville, he's still upset that Stalin died.

WTF? He died 20 years & 7 months before I was born. Besides, I am the one against oppression remember.

 

[Calabrio]

WTF? He died 20 years & 7 months before I was born. Besides, I am the one against oppression remember.

Then why didn't you support the Iraq war and the elimination of an oppressive regime in Iraq?

 

[TheDude]

Then why didn't you support the Iraq war and the elimination of an oppressive regime in Iraq?

That is not solely why this war started; the reasons evolved along the way and are still evolving to fit it as it goes. Like it said, I don't buy Bush's "I was told unreliable information and lies' bit. The end doesn't always justify the means. Fortunately and unfortunately, Iraq is finally starting to show some positives, the elections are a great thing, no one will deny it, but that in itself will allow the Bush admin to brush away the mistakes and the misdoings under the rug. If Iraq starts going downhill, the skeletons may start jumping out of the closet.

Not sure if you implied it, but I never said I supported Saddam.

 

[fossten]

That is not solely why this war started; the reasons evolved along the way and are still evolving to fit it as it goes. Like it said, I don't buy Bush's "I was told unreliable information and lies' bit. The end doesn't always justify the means. Fortunately and unfortunately, Iraq is finally starting to show some positives, the elections are a great thing, no one will deny it, but that in itself will allow the Bush admin to brush away the mistakes and the misdoings under the rug. If Iraq starts going downhill, the skeletons may start jumping out of the closet.

Not sure if you implied it, but I never said I supported Saddam.

There you go again, implying that Bush lied. When will you EVER get off that? When will you EVER make up your mind?

 

[Vitas]

That is not solely why this war started; the reasons evolved along the way and are still evolving to fit it as it goes.

On the one hand you acknowledge that the elimination of an oppressive regime in Iraq is one reason why the war started, on the other hand you say that reason evolved later, along the way.

Please clarify.

 

[barry2952]

The Freedom President?


NYT: NSA Spying Broader Than Bush Admitted


NEW YORK (AP) - The National Security Agency has conducted much broader surveillance of e-mails and phone calls - without court orders - than the Bush administration has acknowledged, The New York Times reported on its Web site.

The NSA, with help from American telecommunications companies, obtained access to streams of domestic and international communications, said the Times in the report late Friday, citing unidentified current and former government officials.

The story did not name the companies.

Since the Times disclosed the domestic spying program last week, President Bush has stressed that his executive order allowing the eavesdropping was limited to people with known links to al-Qaida.

But the Times said that NSA technicians have combed through large volumes of phone and Internet traffic in search of patterns that might lead to terrorists.

The volume of information harvested from telecommunications data and voice networks, without court-approved warrants, is much larger than the White House has acknowledged, the paper said, quoting an unnamed official.

The story quoted a former technology manager at a major telecommunications firm as saying that companies have been storing information on calling patterns since the Sept. 11 attacks, and giving it to the federal government. Neither the manager nor the company he worked for was identified.

 

[Joeychgo]

:yawn:

This is old. Yes, Bush lied... And, if he didnt, its even worse because it means he was fooled by his intel people and other advisors and is too stupid to be President.

 

[Vitas]

:yawn:

This is old. Yes, Bush lied... And, if he didnt, its even worse because it means he was fooled by his intel people and other advisors and is too stupid to be President.

The fact of the matter is that Bush was exonerated from any wrongdoing.

FACTS seem to get in your face.

 

[fossten]

:yawn:

This is old. Yes, Bush lied... And, if he didnt, its even worse because it means he was fooled by his intel people and other advisors and is too stupid to be President.

:sleep:

This is old. No, he didn't lie, nor is there any evidence that he did. How is someone stupid because he trusted his advisors and the intel communities of the rest of the free world? I guess that would mean that Kerry, Hillary, and all the other Senators who voted to go to war were fooled as well, which would make them stupid. BTW, did you vote for Kerry, the stupid?

There's kool-aid on your chin.

 

[TheDude]

:sleep:

This is old. No, he didn't lie, nor is there any evidence that he did. How is someone stupid because he trusted his advisors and the intel communities of the rest of the free world? I guess that would mean that Kerry, Hillary, and all the other Senators who voted to go to war were fooled as well, which would make them stupid. BTW, did you vote for Kerry, the stupid?

There's kool-aid on your chin.

If that's true, he should of picked better advisors. That would of been the intelligent thing to do.

 

[fossten]

If that's true, he should of picked better advisors. That would of been the intelligent thing to do.

He did. I guess you must be acknowledging that he is intelligent. :W