Could this be the day?

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Could this be the day?

Could this be the day that all the blood letting of our fellow human beings stops spilling? Could this be the day?
 
Vitas said:
Could this be the day?

Could this be the day that all the blood letting of our fellow human beings stops spilling? Could this be the day?


IMO, No. I don't believe that will ever happen.
 
Vitas said:
Could this be the day?

Could this be the day that all the blood letting of our fellow human beings stops spilling? Could this be the day?


"Only dead men have seen the end of war"........................Plato
 
That's one amazing "cease-fire."

Of course, it hasn't completely stopped the fighting even yet, but it's good to see an optomist.
 
barry2952 said:
IMO, No. I don't believe that will ever happen.

Thank you for calling me a mench.

Other than that, you and I are still at war.

It is THE TIME TO HAPPEN, and I see the curve. It is the time to try.
 
Calabrio said:
That's one amazing "cease-fire."

Of course, it hasn't completely stopped the fighting even yet, but it's good to see an optomist.

Tell me that the ending of blood letting was a bad thing.
 
DixieRambler said:
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Yea, he's dead alright. I guess that means he has seen the end of war! We have not.

I think that we need to try to be optimists, and, more particularly, anticipate the future. WDIK
 
Vitas said:
I think that we need to try to be optimists, and, more particularly, anticipate the future. WDIK


I agree. I appreciate your optimisim. There needs to be more of it.

Thanks,

Jim
 
Vitas said:
Tell me that the ending of blood letting was a bad thing.

A false peace only leads to more deaths at a later death. The conflict has not been resolved, there has been no victory. There has been no surrender. There has not been any resolution.

So called "peace-keepers" are going to sit on the border and merely look the other way while Iran and Syria rearm Hezbollah.

All we've succeeded in doing is postponing some of the bloodshed. And, ufortunately, it'll probably be more intense at a later date. We greater resentment, broader scale, and more powerful weapons.

Next time, the terrorist states will be better prepared and pick the time and the place.

Optomism and realism aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, but right now, they are.
The only "positive" outcome would come about if the West could successfully support the large segment of the Iranian population who hopes to overthrow the theocracy, throwing Iran into civil war. And that doesn't seem like it's going to happen quickly enough. They've been trying for years.
 
DixieRambler said:
I agree. I appreciate your optimisim. There needs to be more of it.

Thanks,

Jim

Thank you for your comment and appreciation of the theory. I am a hard lined realist when it comes down to push and shove, but I can see this negotiation process happening.
 
Please explain the long term positive associated with the abruptly imposed and unenforced cease fire? Other than the short term interuption of the most intense fighting, what was accomplished?

Did either side change their goals or positions?
Is either side in a position where they will be unable to continue to resume attacking again?

To further complicate this, Hezbollah isn't a state, and it's acting as a proxy for Iran and Syria.

Some positive was achieve by Israeli's striking. But what has been accomplished by this half-assed cease fire? What reason is there to assume that Hezbollah/Iran/Syria won't launch some other kind of offensive?

And how does it solve the problem of the terrorist group, Hamas, launching attacks from the previously "occupied" territory of Gaza. Gaza being another region the Israels willingingly gave up in a desperate effort for peace, only to see it used as a stanging area for terrorist attack.

So, Vitas, maybe you do have a point. but I've yet to see you actually explain where you're coming form. What is your logic.
 
Vitas is in over his head. I wouldn't be waiting for a reply, much less a cogent one, anytime soon.:rolleyes:
 
fossten said:
Uh - you ever heard of Neville Chamberlain?

Yeah, I remember him. He's the guy, along with the other European powers, who negotiated with Hitler, allowed him to occupy a soverign country in the name of peace and managed to prevent World War II from ever happening.

Fortunately, Hitler was negotiating in good faith.

;)
 

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