Despite what the critics say, 'Obamanomics' is working

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Despite what the critics say, 'Obamanomics' is working

http://www.thestar.com/business/art...t-the-critics-say-obamanomics-is-working?bn=1

At the moment, it's plain to most American pundits that the United States is an economic train wreck, with 9.7 per cent unemployment, soaring federal deficits and state governments flirting with insolvency.
The free-floating anxiety stateside finds expression not just in the upstart "Tea Party" movement that is dismayed with both Democrats and Republicans. One still hears smug assessments in Europe, Asia and, yes, Canada, that it was a Wall Street zoo with the bars down that led the planet to the edge of the abyss.

The Atlantic devoted its January/February cover story to America's dysfunctional governance, while The New York Times recently front-paged a story headlined "Party gridlock feeds new fear of a debt crisis."
As goes Greece, so apparently goes the U.S.
The declinism theme finds its most pronounced expression in disappointment with U.S. President Barack Obama, herald of hope and change, who, according to the punditocracy consensus, has delivered neither.

The water walker's public-approval ratings have plunged from 69 per cent on Inauguration Day to a current 47 per cent — proof enough for many in the U.S. and elsewhere that Obama is already a failed president.
You'd never guess from the hectoring Economist editorials about America losing its way and the hand-wringing of fiscal hawks at the U.S. Club of Growth that Europe's largest bank is on government life support, and that London's City financial district was no less a cesspool of greedhead capitalism than New York.

Or that the prospects of a Greek default have triggered fears about unmanageable debt in Ireland, Spain, Portugal and even Britain. And that two decades after the implosion of Japan's stock market and real estate bubbles, the world's second-largest economy has yet to emerge from recession.

Only rarely these days is the U.S. still described as the world's "sole superpower." Instead, observers are fixated on India and China, where bureaucracy and corruption command less attention in the West than a detainee population at Guantanamo Bay.

Still less attention is paid to China's backward statistics-keeping, so unreliable that the nation's official, wildly impressive GDP growth rate of close to 10 per cent is actually closer to 2 per cent. And that when Wal-Mart shoppers in America closed their wallets, riots followed among laid-off factory hands in China's industrial coastal cities. Which explains why Beijing was first out of the gate with government stimulus programs, soon followed by furious pump-priming not only by Obama but his counterparts in Britain, France, Japan and Canada, among others.

But thanks to the Obama stimulus, the U.S. is quietly experiencing the biggest negative-to-positive GDP swing in modern history, from "negative growth" of more than 5 per cent when Obama took office to a stunning 5.9 per cent gain in 2009's fourth quarter. Canada's productivity growth has stagnated while America's surged by 6.9 per cent in that same quarter — setting the stage for sustained robust economic growth in years to come. U.S. joblessness is at a lower rate than during Ronald Reagan's first two years in office. U.S. forecasters now project net new job creation of 300,000 this month, compared with stomach-turning monthly job losses of more than 700,000 in the winter of 2008-09.

America obviously has its problems, including projected record federal deficits of $2.8 trillion (U.S.) this year and next. And the national jobless rate obscures unemployment closer to 20 per cent among African Americans and Hispanics.

But America is on the mend. The stock market has rebounded by 68 per cent since its March 2009 nadir. Corporate profits surged 180 per cent in the most recent quarter. Inflation is quiescent and money is cheap: The spread on investment-grade corporate bonds has dropped to a current 1.63 per cent from 5.13 per cent when Obama became president just 14 months ago. Meanwhile, the vaunted euro has lost more than 25 per cent of its value against the U.S. dollar as the stability of the entire eurozone has come into question.

"Obamanomics" is working. Dan Greenhaus, chief economic strategist at New York-based Miller Tabek & Co., recently told Bloomberg News: "If [Obama] was a Republican, we would hear a never-ending drumbeat of news stories about markets voting in favour of the president."
International investors have taken the measure of Americas burgeoning deficits and largely turned sanguine. The bailed-out Wall Street banks have already paid back most of their government loans, with interest. General Motors vows to do the same this year. And as the ranks of the employed swell, income-tax receipts will grow and jobless claims will drop.
A bet against the U.S. has always been a bad wager. That's especially true as its nascent recovery gains strength.

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Alleged good news for the country :)
though maybe not for some
 
Don't see how this is possible considering the majority of the so called 'stimulus' hasn't even been distributed yet.

This whole article is a joke. All we heard for the last 3 years of the Bush presidency was how bad the economy was, despite record growth.
 
This article is basing it's claim on a single quarters growth rate?
Further evidence that journalists are economically illiterate and cheerleaders for the administration.

Even the most optimistic sane economist don't expect that rate to carry over into Q1, at best they are hoping for about half of that.

And, as Fossten mentioned, his "stimulus" hasn't been fully spent yet.
We're going to see artificially inflated "recovery" numbers all year. 2010 will be shaped by the stimulus DNC slush fund being dumped into the economy and profit taking by people trying to avoid the 2011 tax increase.
 
Yes it's prudent to be suspicious of good news or any news for that matter.
One quarter does not a recovery make but the numbers are encouraging.
The stock market has rebounded and we'll see how the job creation or lack of goes into the 2012 election.
 
Yes it's prudent to be suspicious of good news or any news for that matter.
One quarter does not a recovery make but the numbers are encouraging.
The stock market has rebounded and we'll see how the job creation or lack of goes into the 2012 election.

It's not just "prudent" in this case, it'd simply be ignorant to do otherwise.
All of the indicators are negative. Even the administration is saying that it's expected more unemployment in the coming years.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aXaMufrB.FA0

In the meantime, the deficit has grown $2T
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20000576-503544.html

There is no long term recovery possible here if this current administrations agenda is successfully passed. The debt alone is crushing. Moody's is screaming out again that we will loose our AAA rating if we don't change courses, FAST. No one is listening.

People who just view this as a "Republican/Democrat" issue, or a little political policy dispute that can be left until 2012 to address clearly do not understand what is going on here.
 
Alleged good news for the country :)
though maybe not for some

Gee, maybe if you listened to the Obama administration folks, you could buy a clue.:rolleyes:


Obama Aides See ‘Extended Period’ of Unemployment

The proportion of Americans who can’t find work is likely to “remain elevated for an extended period,” Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner, White House budget director Peter Orszag and Christina Romer, chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, said in a joint statement. The officials said unemployment may even rise “slightly” over the next few months as discouraged workers start job-hunting again.

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I have to try tip-toeing thru the tulips. Must be a great way to live, huh 04SCTLS?

Just so you understand sir, if you are a discouraged unemployed worker you're not even considered 'unemployed' by the Boy Blunder Administration.
 
High unemployment is good for business because it keeps the wages down.
Now that business has been more lean for a while the incentive is to do more with less workers as orders pick up.
We have added more robots and mechanization to our processes in the last 2 years and have been able to cut our workforce 20% while increasing production 20%
It is one of our goals to continue investment in further automation and make robots do as many jobs as possible.
 
04SC, just answer one question:

How do you have a jobless recovery?

It depends on how you define recovery.
If businesses have recovered their profitability that's not the same as recovering their employees.
All the jobs will never be recovered
as the goal of business is primarily to make money with jobs as one tool for accomplishing that.
Business doesn't provide jobs with the same mindset as government.

The jobless rate would have to climb much higher for unemployment to be a threat than a veiled benefit.
 
as the goal of business is primarily to make money with jobs as one tool for accomplishing that.
Business doesn't provide jobs with the same mindset as government.

The jobless rate would have to climb much higher for unemployment to be a threat than a veiled benefit.
Jobs normally follow profitability. It's called growth. But sometimes cutting expenses can generate profits - but only for the short term. Growth is the key.

If jobs are being lost or not grown, there is no recovery. The best case scenario is stasis. That's not a recovery.
 
The article's argument seems purely conclusory. I don't see any evidence that the few signs of recovery it points to are due to Obama's stimulus as opposed to being a natural market correction not at all dependent the stimulus. Not even a reasonable market explanation as to how the stimulus actually "stimulated". Proof by assertion.

It also seems premature. You cannot have a jobless recovery...
 

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