doobies or teens?

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now that i got ur attention....why does evryone want 18s on there car. r 20s on an ls that bad? does ur speedometer mark incorrect with 20s. i dont plan on lowerin if i get 20s? 245 35 20 series tires shouldnt look bad on an ls....should it? if not lowered...will those tire fill the wheel well or raise my car. will rubbin be a prob? so many questions. ahahhhhhhh! thanks!
 
I think it's mostly ride quality. With 35 profile tires, they lose a lot of cushion. I personally like the look of a 45 profile tire more. Not too much sidewall, but not too little either. Remember that this is all opinion. You prefer 20's, while some other people on this site might still be riding on the stock 16's because they like them.
 
SurfjaxLS said:
some other people on this site might still be riding on the stock 16's because they like them.
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thats what i'm doing :Beer

from what I hear you lose alot of the magnificant handling that the car provides and there are also some rubbing issues

something about my stock rims I like...there real classy

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i have 20's and 35 profile tire and they look awesome to say the least. I haven't had any problems with rubbing. The place that put them on said that it may rub if I am making a turn and I run over something at the same time, but that doesn't occur too often. I recommend gettin the 20's. I have no regrets whatsoever. I have been breakin so many necks that it is starting to get annoying. go for it. :dj:
 
lincoln4life said:
i have 20's and 35 profile tire and they look awesome to say the least. I haven't had any problems with rubbing. The place that put them on said that it may rub if I am making a turn and I run over something at the same time, but that doesn't occur too often. I recommend gettin the 20's. I have no regrets whatsoever. I have been breakin so many necks that it is starting to get annoying. go for it. :dj:
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i want 20s i want 20s i want 20s!
 
lincoln4life said:
i have 20's and 35 profile tire and they look awesome to say the least. I haven't had any problems with rubbing. The place that put them on said that it may rub if I am making a turn and I run over something at the same time, but that doesn't occur too often. I recommend gettin the 20's. I have no regrets whatsoever. I have been breakin so many necks that it is starting to get annoying. go for it. :dj:
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got any pics of ur ride wit wheels n all?
 
One other thought to keep in mind. Potholes.

If you hit a pothole in 20s, you are way more likely to dent the rim than you would if you had stock.

My last car had 255/50R17s stock from the factory, normal tire size for the econo model of that car were 235/70R15s if I recall. I hit a pot hole one day. TWO rims got dented on that side. Repairing dented rims is not cheap.

I like the low profile look, but unless you live where the roads are in excellent condition, you may not like the ride and it may cost you some dent repairs everyonce in awhile.

Good Luck,

Jim Henderson
 
no pics yet....i just got them on 4 days ago...but i am workin on it....i will post when i do.....mikedeezy, get them 20's, you wont regret it
 
i want them doobies. potholes in l.a. area arent that bad. the roads r pretty decent. i just gotta worry bout keepn em clean. haha. thanks for the input though. keep.em.comin!
 
mikedeezy123 said:
i want them doobies. potholes in l.a. area arent that bad. the roads r pretty decent. i just gotta worry bout keepn em clean. haha. thanks for the input though. keep.em.comin!
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I think 18's look just as good with 45's without compromising hardly as much ride quality with 20-35. Run over a pebble and you will feel it.
 
Your never going to get a major census on this forum. The folks who don't like the idea of big rims on cars will always talk about how much its tacky and how it sacrifices ride quality and how the rims are soo much more vulnerable to potholes. I wonder how many people who actually have 20s on their cars will complain about how it makes the LS lose ride quality and stuff. If you look at previous posts, most of the folks who talk about how bad the ride quality is are not riding dubs. Hmmmm, if you don't drive a LS on dubs how do you know that the ride quality is soo bad?

On the other hand, if you like the idea of dubs then you will make certain adjustments in your driving habits (i.e. you will avoid potholes...). And, if you are riding dubz you probably won't be as inclined to drive like Speed Racer. These sacrifices won't really bother you if you are going for the 20" look. So you have to ask yourself, are you more about the show or the go. Show = 20's and go = teens.

Just my 2 cents.
 
BBoyd said:
Your never going to get a major census on this forum. The folks who don't like the idea of big rims on cars will always talk about how much its tacky and how it sacrifices ride quality and how the rims are soo much more vulnerable to potholes. I wonder how many people who actually have 20s on their cars will complain about how it makes the LS lose ride quality and stuff. If you look at previous posts, most of the folks who talk about how bad the ride quality is are not riding dubs. Hmmmm, if you don't drive a LS on dubs how do you know that the ride quality is soo bad?

On the other hand, if you like the idea of dubs then you will make certain adjustments in your driving habits (i.e. you will avoid potholes...). And, if you are riding dubz you probably won't be as inclined to drive like Speed Racer. These sacrifices won't really bother you if you are going for the 20" look. So you have to ask yourself, are you more about the show or the go. Show = 20's and go = teens.

Just my 2 cents.
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i like ur opinion....
i trynot to speed n ewayz. i like the way the dubz r soundin...or better yet....gonna b lookin.
 
BBoyd pretty much hit the nail on the head! If you're not ridin on 20's, then you really can't talk about ride quality. I can tell you that my Mark VIII rides great on 245/40/20s.

And just as a correction, it is possible that a 35 series tire have MORE sidewall than a 40 series tire since the sidewall is a percentage of width. A 285/35/20 is 99.75mm (35 percent of 285mm), whereas a 245/40/20 is 98mm. Lots of people run bigger tires in the rear. I'd be running 305s if I could find a wheel with enough offset.

Kale
 
I HAVE 20'S ON MY LS WITH 255/35/20'S AND YES THE RIDE QUALITY MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT NOT REALLY AS NOTICABLE AS PEOPLE MIGHT THINK. i LOVE THE LOOK AND SO DO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AT THE CHIROPRACTOR GETTING THERE NECKS RELINED. FROM RUBBER NECKING LOL.

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BBoyd said:
Your never going to get a major census on this forum. The folks who don't like the idea of big rims on cars will always talk about how much its tacky and how it sacrifices ride quality and how the rims are soo much more vulnerable to potholes. I wonder how many people who actually have 20s on their cars will complain about how it makes the LS lose ride quality and stuff. If you look at previous posts, most of the folks who talk about how bad the ride quality is are not riding dubs. Hmmmm, if you don't drive a LS on dubs how do you know that the ride quality is soo bad?

On the other hand, if you like the idea of dubs then you will make certain adjustments in your driving habits (i.e. you will avoid potholes...). And, if you are riding dubz you probably won't be as inclined to drive like Speed Racer. These sacrifices won't really bother you if you are going for the 20" look. So you have to ask yourself, are you more about the show or the go. Show = 20's and go = teens.

Just my 2 cents.
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Show and go=Teens

and thats all I have to say about that....
 
BBoyd said:
Hmmmm, if you don't drive a LS on dubs how do you know that the ride quality is soo bad?
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Because I've driven an LS with 17s and it was bad enough the mere thought of 20s makes my ass sore. 16s > *
 
bboyd again u hit the nail on the head. its all personal preference and what style and look theyre going for. like i say about girls u cant knock it until u try it, so if u havent rode 20s u cant knock the quality until youve driven on them.
MIKEDEEZY u seem like my type more look that speed or performance, go with the dubz. it seem like it will suit you more saying "theyre 20s" not "theyre 18s".
BBOYD ive been trying to say what u said for a while u really nailed it. DONT KNOCK IT TILL U TRY IT
 
I have never driven on 20s, so yeah the guy has a point. But I have ridden in cars over the past 30+ years with profiles from 85 down to about 40. Could just be my imagination but seems like the lower the profile the worse the ride when comparing apples to apples. Of course you get used to it after awhile. Then if you change back to a higher profile, suddenly you discover how much quieter and smoother the car rides, who'd a figured. I have done this on several cars over the years, and in every case the higher profile tires rode smoother, but maybe did not handle as well.

Also sometimes you cannot avoid potholes. In many years of driving, I NEVER got a dented rim. Then one day diving less than 20mph, speed trap, so no Ricky Racer stuff here. I got into a situation where I was unable to swerve in the lane because some pita other driver hogged the road on the other side. It was dark and hard to see, but suddenly there was a nice juicy pot hole with no shoulder to pull onto. Yes I could have slammed on my brakes, and got a ricer enema from the guy behind me but I figured, I could make it. Wrong, Hit the hole with both tires on that side. Dented both badly enough to cause leaks. I drove that road every few days and the pothole was brand new so I would not have known before I got to it, to avoid it.

Tires are a compromise. High profiles are for good road feel and mileage, low profile are for good handling and looks. All the technical articles I have read in various auto mags seem to confirm this and mention the harsh ride on low profiles. Yes you can have a taller sidewall even with low profiles, but you do get limited on width by the wheel wells so in general you will be pretty close to the same width and only change profile. For handling you want stiff side walls, short makes it easier to do.

I just bring these comments up because they are things to consider as part a purchase decision. The LS is not known for cushy ride even with standard rims. So lower profiles will probably not improve things. But then we didn't buy the LS for a limo ride did we.


Like I said before I do like the looks of low profile tires and have owned a few cars with them. I enjoyed the tremendous handling improvements of the low profiles, but sometimes I missed the smooth quiet ride and until I got below 55 profiles, I never had a problem with dents.

Enjoy the new rims, but pay more attention to holes. The one that dented my rims was maybe 3 inches deep with a vertical edge because it was fresh. I think the sharpness of the edge has more to do with damage than how deep.

Good Luck,

Jim Henderson
 
Tires are a compromise. High profiles are for good road feel and mileage, low profile are for good handling and looks.

Mileage? does ur gas mileage decrease with 20s? y is that?
 
ive been going with the 20s look for 2 summers now and personally i am getting sick of driving "careful" with them on and what little rubbing they do when you hit a bump or something... it seems like your braking aint as great with these big things on and the steering wheel shakes a little at high speeds... i mean it was great in the beginning, i felt like a million bucks with everyone starin at me with their jaws hitting the ground, but its getting old with me... so if you want some dubs you can buy mine MikeDeezy

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well i have 20s.. and before this i had the stock 17s' ... 20s look awesome but yea you have to be a little more careful than with stock tires... curbs and dips can damage them... the ride for me isnt really any stiffer than it used to be... what i can notice is that acceleration is a bit slower.. because of the heavier rims obviously...i have a 245-35-20 tire and yes it does rub.. well it used to in the back..and this would only happen if i had more than 3 people in the car and if i hit a bump or turned sharply.. i put some coil spring boosters and there is minimal rubbing now.. if you dont mind driving a little more careful and having a slower car then yea get some 20s ... if you want to maintain performance.. and not have any rubbing issues then go smaller.. i just posted some pics above.. sorry my car was dirty that day :)
 
itsnotmydaddys said:
Tires are a compromise. High profiles are for good road feel and mileage, low profile are for good handling and looks.

Mileage? does ur gas mileage decrease with 20s? y is that?
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Because of the added weight. They will make the car slower and hurt your mileage, as well as making the car harder to stop and putting additional wear on other suspension components.
 
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