I am still contemplating the 2000 V8. I test drove it yesterday, turned traction control off, floored the pedal, and the car just quietly accelerated, no 20 ft black strips, no smoke, not even a pathetic little chirp. Is this thing down on power from new? If not, why have traction control if you can't even break the tires loose from a standing start on dirty pavement? I have heard of the trannies getting out of tune also, and a "re-flash" helping tighten them up. Could this be what is causing the boring acceleration? 235 HP in a mustang will smoke the tires for 50 feet.
Engine power 100% ?
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Well one thing i think that helps with traction is the 50/50 weight distribution. On the ls it has i think 1600 lbs on the front wheels and 1600 lbs on the rear wheels. On a mustang you have like 2500 lbs on front tires and 500 lbs on rear making them a little easier to spin tires. But thats just kinda the way i think about it. I can lay some rubber down if i floor it but i'm cheap and don't want to knock off a few hundred miles on 300 bucks a tire.. lol.. eventhough i do like racing the little hondas around town with more weight on spoilers and ground effects then the car weighed originally..when i get the chance. lol
Quik LS
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the LS has a rear suspension that is designed to prevent front-end nose diving under hard decelleration, the whole car squats rather than dives - but the design also makes it harder to wheel spin - you would rather the car 'hook up' and go over spinning - but I understand that visually it looks more powerful with a little smoke.
with that said - with a little practise you can get it to do it, same with a brake stand....
with that said - with a little practise you can get it to do it, same with a brake stand....
JohnnyBz00LS
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AZLS said:
A low-end torque monster this 3.9L V8 is not. Traction control is mainly for wet conditions. But do a little brake-stand and let the RPMs get up above 3000 w/ the tires spinning and LOOK OUT!!
eL eS
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it works well when cornering too, I know from experience. Yeah if my wife found out she would stop setting aside funds for me to buy new tires but I know you all won't tell.
Styles
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eL eS said:
I can power break my 03 v8 sport just fine, and get the tires to spin using SST in 1st w/out autotrac on. But I also have a little bit more stock HP than the -2002's and below.
whatsupadrian
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AZLS said:
get bald tires or slicks.
eL eS
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I glad it cant lay a 1/8th mile of rubber down. I have friends with uber tuned cobras and supras that are paying 400 dollars to keep rubber between the rim and the road.
Fresh laid rubber is fun to make but not fun to pay for.
Fresh laid rubber is fun to make but not fun to pay for.
Dutch
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AZLS, you can do a pretty nice burnout in a 2000 LS if you give it a bit of a power brake first. You can also light them up if you jerk the wheel a bit to get the weight off one side. I laid a patch for about 60' the other day, and it felt great.
FWIW, the quarter mile time in my sig was accompanied by a 2.2 60' time, which is pretty good for only 267 lb/ft in a ~3800 pound car. It's all in the gearing, of which the LS has plenty. The rear is only 3.58 or 3.31 depending, but first gear on the tranny has a 3.25 ratio (followed by 2.44, 1.55, 1, and .75).
In comparison, from a gearing standpoint, a Mustang is starting in 2nd gear.
FWIW, the quarter mile time in my sig was accompanied by a 2.2 60' time, which is pretty good for only 267 lb/ft in a ~3800 pound car. It's all in the gearing, of which the LS has plenty. The rear is only 3.58 or 3.31 depending, but first gear on the tranny has a 3.25 ratio (followed by 2.44, 1.55, 1, and .75).
In comparison, from a gearing standpoint, a Mustang is starting in 2nd gear.
PHATCAT67
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I Think I Can....
in my moded 00, i never had a problem lighting em up... in fact, if i got on it just right, i could lay a strip down almost 60 feet or so without ever giving it more than 3/4 throttle, but thats me....
in my moded 00, i never had a problem lighting em up... in fact, if i got on it just right, i could lay a strip down almost 60 feet or so without ever giving it more than 3/4 throttle, but thats me....
jdsimons said:
Actually the new mustang is based off of the same platform as the LS. So the new mustang also has 50/50 weight distribution. It just has more horsepower than the ls, plus its a stick shift.
TownCar97
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TownCar97 said:
not really - it was the intention to re-use the DEW98 platform for the mustang - but the only thing that survived into the final product was the floorpan.
two reasons:
- the cost of the platform was too expensive to meet the production target costs for the mustang
- the DEW98 platform looses alot of structural rigdity if you cut the top off - the T-Bird required alot of 'bracing' - the topless mustang is a must.
Dutch
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Yeah but the old ones were closer to 60/40. Actually, 57/43 or so.TownCar97 said:
And the LS V8 has a 52/48 distribution, versus 53/47 for the new Mustang. A V6 LS is 51/49.
1BADLS
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I accomplish a massive burnout by getting out my pro-street S-10 with its massive 427 bill mitchel small block, will only spin on street tires though, the mickeys on and it put the front end up 4 feet !!! Anyways, all I can say on the Ls is I.R.S., thank you Jaguar !!!!