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Jayce 1971

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I screwed up last fall. Got a d.u.i., while working on the road. "Stupid"...yes, I know, especially in this economy. Anyway, a member of the local law enforcement community noticed that I was still going to work everyday...(pipeline teamster), decided he needed to chat with my boss. Told him that I no longer had a license. Flat out lie. The company let me go, wouldn't listen to my side, that I hadn't been found guilty of anything, etc. (Yes, I did immediately inform my supervisor the day after I got pulled over....he said we'd keep it between us, 'till we find something out). So, this was Nov, 08. Spoke to several ACLU attorneys about the cop coming out to my work, spreading lies. They said because I was white, and he was probably not acting on behalf of the dept, they didn't want the case....no $$'s from a ready to retire local policeman. Fine, whatever.

So today, 6-22-09, I get a letter from the Kansas DMV. They say, your license is suspended 30 days. What?!! I already had the suspension. "We're entitled to suspend your license as well. What's more, you're on restriction for 330 additional days.

This is what I have a problem with. I asked for the statute stating that once I had completed sentence (30days suspended license, South Dakota) I had to be on restriction. They gave me the KSA 8-252. I thoroughly read through this and found nothing about ADDITIONAL restrictions. It's as though KS DMV just decided to interpret the statute the way they see fit. So, I'm contacting my attorney. If they want to suspend my license for another 30 days, fine. Whatever. But a year of restrictions, when South Dakota didn't give me any more than 30 days suspended is just wrong. I think I'm going to hire an attorney for this, there has to be something they can do to get the "restricted license" thing dropped, as there is absolutely no reference to it in the statute. I know it was wrong to drive impaired, and I'm not disputing that, but the state, assuming powers it isn't entitled to is wrong. See what you think......

8-252. Suspension or revocation of resident's license upon conviction in another state; period of suspension or revocation; return of license after suspension; granting new license after revocation; exceptions. The division is authorized to suspend or revoke the driver's license of any resident of this state upon receiving notice of the conviction of such person in another state of an offense which, if committed in this state, would be grounds for the suspension or revocation of a driver's license. Any suspension or revocation of a driver's license by the division pursuant to this section shall be for a specific period of time designated in the division's order of suspension, not to exceed the period of time for which such person's privilege to drive in the other state was suspended or revoked for such offense, but in no event shall any suspension or revocation pursuant to this section exceed one year, except as provided in K.S.A. 8-2,125 through 8-2,142. The return of a person's license after the expiration of the period of any suspension hereunder, and the granting of a new license upon application of a person following the expiration of the period of any revocation hereunder, shall not be conditioned upon the restoration of such person's privilege to operate a motor vehicle by the state in which such person was convicted.
 
Get a good attorney – and even then, good luck.

I don’t know if Kansas has different levels of suspensions/restrictions – here in Colorado there are restricted licenses that allow you to travel to and from work – but that is it – and if you don’t comply the penalties are very severe. So maybe a good attorney can get you a restriction instead of a suspension.

This part of the statute is what matters.

The division is authorized to suspend or revoke the driver's license of any resident of this state upon receiving notice of the conviction of such person in another state of an offense which, if committed in this state, would be grounds for the suspension or revocation of a driver's license. Any suspension or revocation of a driver's license by the division pursuant to this section shall be for a specific period of time designated in the division's order of suspension, not to exceed the period of time for which such person's privilege to drive in the other state was suspended or revoked for such offense, but in no event shall any suspension or revocation pursuant to this section exceed one year, except as provided in K.S.A. 8-2,125 through 8-2,142.

Basically this says that if the Kansas DMV finds out that you have been convicted in another state, in your case S. Dakota, of a ‘crime’ that would have been ‘cause’ (i.e. drunk driving) for them to revoke your license in Kansas – they can go ahead and revoke your license as well… for the amount of time that it was revoked for in the state where you were found guilty…

good luck...
 
Thanks for the good wishes.

I actually recieved the dui in South Dakota. They have probably the most liberal dui laws in the country....(due to Sturgis, maybe?). The sentence imposed by the state of S.D. was 30 days suspended license, and of course a fine. No restrictions other than that.
What is really chaffing me is that Kansas, (the state in which I'm licensed), is trying to add penalties, (restricted, to and from work, medical emergency, etc....), not just to apply the same, as per the above quoted statute. And when I ask, "Why?", they keep referring me back to this statute. Am I reading it wrong, or does it say in essence that "We will impose the same penalties as the state you were convicted in." If that is the case, there should be NO restrictions at all. I served my suspended license back in Apr 20- May20. Now Kansas wants me to serve another 30 days suspended. Fine. But the restrictions for 330 days are out of the question.
 
I used to have some of the comics he drew. Still have my Vengance of Vampirella #1 uncut cover on the wall.
 
Did SD put any restrictions on your license as well as the suspension?

Then Kansas will match those as well.

If South Dakota didn't place any restrictions on your license - then, find a good attorney - he should be able to get rid of them in Kansas - unless there is more of the statute, or a different statute that deals with restrictions rather than suspensions and revokes...
 
S.D. put no restrictions on my license. 30 day suspended. That was it. I have not been able to find any Kansas statute (other than the above posted) that deals with out of state administrative actions or penalties. That is why my blood pressure is just screaming right now. I guess court may be the only way to get the restrictions lifted. It wouldn't be a big deal, but I'm looking for work, and almost everyone checks MVR. I had a spotless record, and still have just this occurence on it. My insurance didn't even go up at all (with full coverage) after I informed my agent about this.
 
Vengance #1 red foil....not the limited blue foil. Oh hell, that was Buzz....never mind, I know I had some of Marcs artwork, too though.

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Marc is a great penciller... sometimes the inkers don't always get the amazing 'motion' across that is in the original pencils.

Well - good luck - get a good attorney - the good ones are worth every penny, and the bad ones aren't worth a penny.
 
Contacted attorney. My interpretation is correct. So, if I want to spend $2-4K, we can get it overturned. Otherwise, there is no definition of "work related". If I want to go for a cruise at 3:00a.m., I can say I'm working....."collecting cans from the side of the road.":D :D :D :D :D Take that, DMV.
 

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