for the all the chicken hawks......

waltdeuce

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Thought I'd share the wealth with this miniscule byte of info... I know foosten, you know everything and you've probably read this already. But for those who have not......enjoy this OTHER leap to American victory in the mid east. The "EVILDOERS", huh?? hmmmmm....okay.

Thank you to all the chicken hawks and to all of the "we're better than everyone" conservatives that supported this administration......gee, our lives ARE A LOT better now, huh?

And in advance, to all that will be taking their shots at this little ol' democrat in california, face the music and stop playing scrabble or jumble or whatever it is that you want to call your word games because EVERYONE, down to high school students, minimum wage blue collar workers, KNOW and AGREE that this administration....plainly sucks.

Now...........hit me with your best shot.

P.S., you can attack me (with my poor grammar and run-on sentences), but "you will never kill the IDEA".

oh, here's the link...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13879347/site/newsweek/
 
You need to construct some sort of argument in order to be warrant some kind of response.

State a position and then support it with facts and logic.

So far you've done nothing other than flame baiting. And judging you on that single post alone, I'd have to conclude you are both ignorant and attention seeking. Try again.

It's interesting how a person, presenting themself as a Democrat, doesn't think America is better than any other country.

That this Democrat doesn't think evil exists in the world, nor that it should be confronted.

And, in classic form, we see ad hominem attacks without any articulated argument, and furthermore, we also don't see any solutions or suggestions on how to improve things or do things differently.

It's a wonderful luxury to be able to take shots at decisions and policies with the benefit of hindsight and without the responsibility to provide alternative solutions.

....an additional point- why use the term chicken hawk. What do you hope to accomplish? What is your point? Only people who served in the military should have an opinion on international politics and foreign policy? But that doesn't apply, because you still call people that name who have served (Don Rumsfeld in the Navy, President Bush in the Air National Guard). Besides the obvious point that military services doesn't necessarily make any better or worse when evaluating affairs of state, liberals like the thread originator don't care. They throw the term around as another insincere personal attack.

Liberals don't care about military service. They hold the handful of Democrat ex-servicemen up not out of respect, but because they are a freakshow meant to trick the middle of the country into think the DNC is mainstream.
 
Oh, and I appreciate the fact that everyone that you talk to on the left coast hates Bush. Gee, what a surprise. But you really should get out more often.

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I have but one response to such baiting. Read it and weep

Text of speech by Democratic Sen. Zell Miller of Georgia as prepared for delivery Wednesday at the Republican National Convention:

"Since I last stood in this spot, a whole new generation of the Miller Family has been born: Four great grandchildren.
Along with all the other members of our close-knit family, they are my and Shirley’s most precious possessions.
And I know that’s how you feel about your family also. Like you, I think of their future, the promises and the perils they will face.
Like you, I believe that the next four years will determine what kind of world they will grow up in.
And like you, I ask which leader is it today that has the vision, the willpower and, yes, the backbone to best protect my family?
The clear answer to that question has placed me in this hall with you tonight. For my family is more important than my party.
There is but one man to whom I am willing to entrust their future and that man’s name is George Bush.
In the summer of 1940, I was an 8-year-old boy living in a remote little Appalachian valley. Our country was not yet at war, but even we children knew that there were some crazy men across the ocean who would kill us if they could.
President Roosevelt, in his speech that summer, told America “all private plans, all private lives, have been in a sense repealed by an overriding public danger.”
In 1940, Wendell Wilkie was the Republican nominee.
And there is no better example of someone repealing their “private plans” than this good man. He gave Roosevelt the critical support he needed for a peacetime draft, an unpopular idea at the time.
And he made it clear that he would rather lose the election than make national security a partisan campaign issue.
Shortly before Wilkie died, he told a friend, that if he could write his own epitaph and had to choose between “here lies a president” or “here lies one who contributed to saving freedom,” he would prefer the latter.
Where are such statesmen today?
Where is the bipartisanship in this country when we need it most?
Now, while young Americans are dying in the sands of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because of the Democrat’s manic obsession to bring down our Commander in Chief.
What has happened to the party I’ve spent my life working in?
I can remember when Democrats believed that it was the duty of America to fight for freedom over tyranny.
It was Democratic President Harry Truman who pushed the Red Army out of Iran, who came to the aid of Greece when Communists threatened to overthrow it, who stared down the Soviet blockade of West Berlin by flying in supplies and saving the city.
Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter. But not today.
Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today’s Democratic leaders see America as an occupier, not a liberator.
And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American troops occupiers rather than liberators.
Tell that to the one-half of Europe that was freed because Franklin Roosevelt led an army of liberators, not occupiers.
Tell that to the lower half of the Korean Peninsula that is free because Dwight Eisenhower commanded an army of liberators, not occupiers.
Tell that to the half a billion men, women and children who are free today from the Baltics to the Crimea, from Poland to Siberia, because Ronald Reagan rebuilt a military of liberators, not occupiers.
Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers than the American soldier. And, our soldiers don’t just give freedom abroad, they preserve it for us here at home.
For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech.
It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest.
It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom to abuse and burn that flag.
No one should dare to even think about being the Commander in Chief of this country if he doesn’t believe with all his heart that our soldiers are liberators abroad and defenders of freedom at home.
But don’t waste your breath telling that to the leaders of my party today. In their warped way of thinking America is the problem, not the solution.
They don’t believe there is any real danger in the world except that which America brings upon itself through our clumsy and misguided foreign policy.
It is not their patriotism – it is their judgment that has been so sorely lacking. They claimed Carter’s pacifism would lead to peace.
They were wrong.
They claimed Reagan’s defense buildup would lead to war.
They were wrong.
And, no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.
Together, Kennedy/Kerry have opposed the very weapons system that won the Cold War and that is now winning the War on Terror.
Listing all the weapon systems that Senator Kerry tried his best to shut down sounds like an auctioneer selling off our national security but Americans need to know the facts.
The B-1 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, dropped 40 percent of the bombs in the first six months of Operation Enduring Freedom.
The B-2 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered air strikes against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hussein’s command post in Iraq.
The F-14A Tomcats, that Senator Kerry opposed, shot down Khadifi’s Libyan MIGs over the Gulf of Sidra. The modernized F-14D, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered missile strikes against Tora Bora.
The Apache helicopter, that Senator Kerry opposed, took out those Republican Guard tanks in Kuwait in the Gulf War. The F-15 Eagles, that Senator Kerry opposed, flew cover over our Nation’s Capital and this very city after 9/11.
I could go on and on and on: against the Patriot Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein’s scud missiles over Israel; against the Aegis air-defense cruiser; against the Strategic Defense Initiative; against the Trident missile; against, against, against.
This is the man who wants to be the Commander in Chief of our U.S. Armed Forces?
U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?
Twenty years of votes can tell you much more about a man than twenty weeks of campaign rhetoric.
Campaign talk tells people who you want them to think you are. How you vote tells people who you really are deep inside.
Senator Kerry has made it clear that he would use military force only if approved by the United Nations.
Kerry would let Paris decide when America needs defending.
I want Bush to decide.
John Kerry, who says he doesn’t like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.
That’s the most dangerous outsourcing of all. This politician wants to be leader of the free world.
Free for how long?
For more than 20 years, on every one of the great issues of freedom and security, John Kerry has been more wrong, more weak and more wobbly than any other national figure.
As a war protester, Kerry blamed our military.
As a Senator, he voted to weaken our military. And nothing shows that more sadly and more clearly than his vote this year to deny protective armor for our troops in harms way, far away.
George Bush understands that we need new strategies to meet new threats.
John Kerry wants to re-fight yesterday’s war. George Bush believes we have to fight today’s war and be ready for tomorrow’s challenges. George Bush is committed to providing the kind of forces it takes to root out terrorists.
No matter what spider hole they may hide in or what rock they crawl under.
George Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let them go to get a better grip.
From John Kerry, they get a “yes-no-maybe” bowl of mush that can only encourage our enemies and confuse our friends.
I first got to know George Bush when we served as governors together. I admire this man. I am moved by the respect he shows the first lady, his unabashed love for his parents and his daughters, and the fact that he is unashamed of his belief that God is not indifferent to America.
I can identify with someone who has lived that line in “Amazing Grace,” “Was blind, but now I see,” and I like the fact that he’s the same man on Saturday night that he is on Sunday morning.
He is not a slick talker but he is a straight shooter and, where I come from, deeds mean a lot more than words.
I have knocked on the door of this man’s soul and found someone home, a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel.
The man I trust to protect my most precious possession: my family.
This election will change forever the course of history, and that’s not any history. It’s our family’s history.
The only question is how. The answer lies with each of us. And, like many generations before us, we’ve got some hard choosing to do.
Right now the world just cannot afford an indecisive America. Fainthearted self-indulgence will put at risk all we care about in this world.
In this hour of danger our President has had the courage to stand up. And this Democrat is proud to stand up with him.

Thank you.

God Bless this great country and God Bless George W. Bush"
 
waltdeuce said:
Thought I'd share the wealth with this miniscule byte of info... I know foosten, you know everything and you've probably read this already. But for those who have not......enjoy this OTHER leap to American victory in the mid east. The "EVILDOERS", huh?? hmmmmm....okay.

Thank you to all the chicken hawks and to all of the "we're better than everyone" conservatives that supported this administration......gee, our lives ARE A LOT better now, huh?

And in advance, to all that will be taking their shots at this little ol' democrat in california, face the music and stop playing scrabble or jumble or whatever it is that you want to call your word games because EVERYONE, down to high school students, minimum wage blue collar workers, KNOW and AGREE that this administration....plainly sucks.

Now...........hit me with your best shot.

P.S., you can attack me (with my poor grammar and run-on sentences), but "you will never kill the IDEA".

oh, here's the link...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13879347/site/newsweek/

You're the kind of Democrat that makes the Democrats look bad... Dropping in and rambling is not good form, maybe if you have posted many times before and shown that you are able to debate points a diarrhea of the mouth ramble is acceptable from time to time. Calling them pedophiles (incase you meant it that way) is uncalled for and just makes you look more of an ass.
 
rmac694203 said:
His post was pointless so I thought I'd add something pointless. Seriously though, viruses suck.


Might as well turn this post into something useful...

What is your computer infected with? Worm, hi-jacker, tracker etc. etc. etc. If you aren't computer savvy and what I just said was the equivalent of Greek; what is your computer doing wrong?
 
His computer keeps downloading massive amounts of porn.
He tells his wife it's a virus.
 
MonsterMark said:
Oh, and I appreciate the fact that everyone that you talk to on the left coast hates Bush. Gee, what a surprise. But you really should get out more often.


I hate that map. It makes it look like all of IL has that sickness called liberalsim. When in truth, if you remove Cook county, IE Chicago, Bush won by over 500k votes.

I truely wish Indiana or Wisconsin would take Chicago off our hands. But thats the views of a downstater. :D All we see out of Chi Town is stupid gun laws, monsterous amounts of highway money and the Bears. LOL.
 
Calabrio said:
His computer keeps downloading massive amounts of porn.
He tells his wife it's a virus.
LOL. No my new neighbor is a computer genius and he's been helping me out. I got a bunch of Trojans and spyware somehow. In the house I lived in before this computer was on a network with two of my download happy friends, and I think that was part of it. When I moved here and hooked up my computer to my neighbors internet (free internet, yay. T1 as well) I started getting all types of messages and alerts about viruses. I was just venting. It's all good now.
 
rmac694203 said:
LOL. No my new neighbor is a computer genius and he's been helping me out. I got a bunch of Trojans and spyware somehow. In the house I lived in before this computer was on a network with two of my download happy friends, and I think that was part of it. When I moved here and hooked up my computer to my neighbors internet (free internet, yay. T1 as well) I started getting all types of messages and alerts about viruses. I was just venting. It's all good now.

I was kidding.
And, I'm sure the neighbor recommended it, but if you don't have something similiar, remember to download ZONEALARM (firewall), Spybot and AdAware (for Spyware). They're all free and all work well.
 
rmac694203 said:
LOL. No my new neighbor is a computer genius and he's been helping me out. I got a bunch of Trojans and spyware somehow. In the house I lived in before this computer was on a network with two of my download happy friends, and I think that was part of it. When I moved here and hooked up my computer to my neighbors internet (free internet, yay. T1 as well) I started getting all types of messages and alerts about viruses. I was just venting. It's all good now.

AdAware will help you out, but until you get a router installed b/t your computer and the modem, you're still fair game for the internet. Ever since I installed my $25 router, I've been invisible on the web. They don't even know I'm there and I don't even run AdAware anymore.
 
I have adaware and Avg antivirus. My neighbor recommended those two. I also have some other spyware program I bought a while back. So between the 3 I'm pretty good now.
 

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