Giuliani ally Kerik reported indicted

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NEW YORK, Nov 8 (Reuters) - Bernard Kerik, a former New York police commissioner and protege of Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani, was indicted on corruption charges on Thursday, media reported, in a potential embarrassment for Giuliani's campaign.

Kerik, 52, and Giuliani, the former New York mayor, were also business partners and, with Giuliani's backing, Kerik was nominated by President George W. Bush in 2004 to be secretary of Homeland Security. Kerik later withdrew his name from nomination after admitting he failed to pay taxes on a nanny and other embarrassing disclosures about his personal life surfaced.


http://today.reuters.com/news/artic..._N08278751_RTRIDST_0_CRIME-KERIK-UPDATE-1.XML
 
NEW YORK, Nov 8 (Reuters) - Bernard Kerik, a former New York police commissioner and protege of Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani, was indicted on corruption charges on Thursday, media reported, in a potential embarrassment for Giuliani's campaign.

Kerik, 52, and Giuliani, the former New York mayor, were also business partners and, with Giuliani's backing, Kerik was nominated by President George W. Bush in 2004 to be secretary of Homeland Security. Kerik later withdrew his name from nomination after admitting he failed to pay taxes on a nanny and other embarrassing disclosures about his personal life surfaced.


http://today.reuters.com/news/artic..._N08278751_RTRIDST_0_CRIME-KERIK-UPDATE-1.XML

Note the critical, damning associations. Now compare with the friendly and forgiving tone in this story about Hsu and Hillary from September, also by Reuters. Note no mention of any "potential embarrassment" :

Democratic fundraiser Hsu charged with fraud
Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:23am EDT
By Christine Kearney

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Democratic fund-raiser Norman Hsu was charged on Thursday with fraud and campaign finance violations in a case that has prompted presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Clinton to return $850,000 in contributions.

U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia unsealed a criminal complaint in New York charging Hsu, 56, with perpetrating a $60 million "pyramid" fraud scheme between 2003 and 2006 and committing related federal campaign finance crimes in 2006.

Hsu used a small portion of the $60 million to reimburse investors who made contributions on his behalf to presidential campaigns, including Clinton's, Garcia told reporters at a news conference.

"This case is about self-promotion and greed," Garcia said, adding that Hsu carried out the scheme to "support his lavish lifestyle" and "in order to purchase a place on the celebrity campaign circuit."

He was charged on one count of mail fraud and wire fraud and one count of violating the Federal Election Campaign Act, which limits individual campaign contributions. If convicted he could face 20 years in prison for each of the fraud charges, and five years on the campaign finance charge.

A spokesman for Hsu's attorney James Brosnahan said he had no comment on the charges.

Hsu, who was arrested in Colorado this month, had been a donor to several candidates including Clinton. [Never mind the amount! She was just "included."] On September 10, the Clinton campaign said it would return about $850,000 in campaign contributions from Hsu. [But has she returned the money yet?]

Hsu was convicted of fraud in 1992. He had evaded authorities for years, spending time in Asia before emerging in the United States as a generous donor to Democrats, including Clinton of New York and Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, who is also seeking to be the party's nominee in the 2008 presidential election.

CLINTON COOPERATED

Hsu admitted to FBI agents in Colorado earlier this month that he carried out the scheme and also pressured investors to fund political candidates, according to the complaint.

Garcia said Clinton's campaign had cooperated with the investigation. He did not specify the amount of money from the pyramid scheme that was donated.
 
Are u suggesting (gasp!) media bias?!

[cue dramatic music]
 
Well, Hsu was just a fundraiser - he wasnt nominated to head homeland security. Kerik is much more prominant.

But lets cloud the issue by comparing it to Hsu, that way you can spin it to be about hillary instead of Guilani
 
Well, Hsu was just a fundraiser - he wasnt nominated to head homeland security. Kerik is much more prominant.

But lets cloud the issue by comparing it to Hsu, that way you can spin it to be about hillary instead of Guilani
Cloud the issue??? What exactly is the issue? That a guy that Rudy knows is in trouble with the law? How is this even relevant to Rudy? Just look at the title. It starts with the name 'Giuliani'. But the article isn't even ABOUT Rudy. That's clue number one.

You're missing the point. The only reason this article is about Giuliani is because the writer wants it to be. And so do you. This indictment of Kerik has absolutely nothing to do with Giuliani except that they used to work together. You're trying to make the case that since they associated, somehow this implicates Giuliani. Should we go back and list how many people Bill Clinton associated with that actually served jail sentences?

Giuliani was asked by Brian Williams about this and he said he hasn't spoken to Kerik in over 6 months and he's disappointed in what's happened.

I'm simply pointing out that the press decides what an article is about regardless of the facts, and people like you fall for it every time. This is really a nonstory that is being hyped to smear Giuliani. And I have no real love for the guy either, don't get me wrong. I wouldn't vote for Rudy in a New York minute. But I can and always will point out media bias.
 
Cloud the issue??? What exactly is the issue? That a guy that Rudy knows is in trouble with the law? How is this even relevant to Rudy?

Well - a few quotes.....

With Giuliani's backing, President Bush nominated Kerik to be secretary of homeland security after Bush was re-elected in 2004. But Kerik withdrew his name that December amid allegations that he employed a nanny whose immigration status was questionable.

Kerik was Giuliani's driver during his 1993 mayoral campaign. Giuliani later named him the city's corrections commissioner and police commissioner, made him a senior executive of the management consulting firm Giuliani founded after leaving office.

Before tapping Kerik for a Cabinet post, Bush dispatched him to Baghdad to train Iraqi police after the U.S. invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein. Kerik left three months into an expected six-month stint, with Iraqi officials telling reporters that he had completed his assignment.

I believe I read somewhere that he was also a business partner of Guilani in the past.


I would say thats a tad bit more then a "guy Rudy knows"


From my knowlege, Hsu is someone who raises money for democratic candidates and has never held or been proffered for an official posting.
 
More for the fire:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/14/business/14regan.html?ref=politics
Judith Regan, the former book publisher, says in a lawsuit filed yesterday protesting her dismissal by the News Corporation, the media conglomerate, that a senior executive there encouraged her to lie to federal investigators about her past affair with Bernard B. Kerik after he had been nominated to become homeland security secretary in late 2004.

The lawsuit asserts that the News Corporation executive wanted to protect the presidential aspirations of Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Kerik’s mentor, who had appointed him New York City police commissioner and had recommended him for the federal post.

Ms. Regan makes the charge at the start of a 70-page filing that seeks $100 million in damages for what she says was a campaign to smear and discredit her by her bosses at HarperCollins and its parent company, News Corporation, after her project to publish a book with O. J. Simpson was abandoned amid a storm of protest.

In the civil complaint filed in State Supreme Court in Manhattan, Ms. Regan says the company has long sought to promote Mr. Giuliani’s ambitions. But the lawsuit does not elaborate on that charge, identify the executive who she says pressured her to mislead investigators, or offer details to support her claim.

In fact, the allegation about the executive makes up a small part of a much broader array of claims about what she says was her improper removal from a job atop one of the more commercially successful book publishing operations.

A News Corporation spokeswoman who declined to be named said that the company saw no merit in the filing. A spokeswoman for Mr. Giuliani declined to comment.

Ms. Regan had an affair with Mr. Kerik, who is married, beginning in the spring of 2001, when her imprint, ReganBooks, began work on his memoir, “The Lost Son.” In December 2004, after the relationship had ended and shortly after Mr. Kerik’s homeland security nomination fell apart, newspapers reported that the two had carried on the affair at an apartment near ground zero that had been donated as a haven for rescue and recovery workers.

Mr. Kerik claimed in 2004 that he had withdrawn his nomination because of problems with the hiring of a nanny. He was indicted last week on federal tax fraud and other charges.

“Defendants were well aware that Regan had a personal relationship with Kerik,” the complaint says. “In fact, a senior executive in the News Corporation organization told Regan that he believed she had information about Kerik that, if disclosed, would harm Giuliani’s presidential campaign. This executive advised Regan to lie to, and to withhold information from, investigators concerning Kerik.”

One of Ms. Regan’s lawyers, Brian C. Kerr of the firm of Dreier L.L.P., said she had evidence to support her claim that she had been advised to lie to federal investigators who were vetting Mr. Kerik and who might have sought to question her about their romantic involvement. But Mr. Kerr declined to discuss the nature of the evidence.

The lawsuit does not say whether Ms. Regan was, in fact, interviewed as part of the inquiry into Mr. Kerik’s fitness for the federal post, and if she was what she told investigators.

The News Corporation controls many media outlets worldwide, including Twentieth Century Fox, The New York Post and the Fox News Channel, where Ms. Regan was once host of a talk show.

The Fox News Channel’s coverage of the presidential race has been a topic of some discussion within rival campaigns because the channel is directed by Mr. Giuliani’s friend of 20 years, Roger Ailes. But the network has strongly defended the balance of its coverage under Mr. Ailes, who served as media consultant to Mr. Giuliani’s first mayoral campaign in 1989. Mr. Giuliani, as mayor, later officiated at Mr. Ailes’s wedding.

Ms. Regan was fired on Dec. 15, 2006, after a month of withering publicity surrounding her plan to publish a hypothetical confession of O. J. Simpson to the murders of his wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald L. Goldman. The release of the book, “If I Did It,” was to be tied to the broadcasting of Ms. Regan’s interview of Mr. Simpson on Fox.

A second book, a novel that imagined drunken and lascivious escapades by Mickey Mantle, drew another round of outrage.

At the time, Rupert Murdoch, the head of News Corporation, called the Simpson book “ill considered.” Ms. Regan was fired and her imprint shut down after a HarperCollins lawyer, Mark Jackson, claimed she had used an anti-Semitic remark in describing the internal campaign to fire her as a “Jewish cabal.”

It was a tremendous fall for a woman who had, over a dozen years, built her own imprint into a best-seller juggernaut. It captured headlines by printing memoirs and other books by popular figures like Howard Stern, Rush Limbaugh, and the porn star Jenna Jameson that were often overlooked by old-line publishing houses, as well as more traditional offerings, like “The Zero,” a novel set in the aftermath of 9/11, which was a finalist for a National Book Award in 2006.

Ms. Regan asserts in her lawsuit that she never used the term “Jewish cabal” and that both the Mantle book and the Simpson project were approved by a range of HarperCollins executives.

Mr. Murdoch himself, the suit says, signed off on the Simpson book during a dinner with Ms. Regan on Feb. 14, 2006.

Most of the complaint explores what Ms. Regan says was an effort to discredit and defame her starting in November 2006, including the release of what she calls false and defamatory statements by company executives to The New York Post, which is owned by the News Corporation, and to The New York Times.

“We are fully confident that the evidence will show that Judith Regan was the victim of a vicious smear campaign engineered by News Corporation and HarperCollins,” Mr. Kerr said.

The assertion that the News Corporation has sought to protect Mr. Giuliani appears in the opening page of the filing. The document later revisits aspects of the assertion without providing a full account of what is alleged to have occurred or how it might be substantiated in court.

Ms. Regan says in the suit, though, that when she realized the company had been assembling material with which to justify firing her she called a company lawyer. She says she wanted to confirm that accusations she had made about executives’ creating a hostile workplace had been included in her personnel file. One of those accusations was that an executive had advised her to lie about Mr. Kerik to protect Mr. Giuliani.

“This smear campaign was necessary to advance News Corp.’s political agenda, which has long centered on protecting Rudy Giuliani’s presidential ambitions,” the court papers say.

In 2004, Mr. Giuliani was being discussed as a potential presidential contender in 2008 but was more than two years away from openly talking about a run.

The complaint asserts that a second unnamed executive advised her “not to produce clearly relevant documents in connection with the government’s investigation of Kerik.”

“Thus, because of the damaging information that defendants believed Regan possessed, defendants knew they would be protecting Giuliani if they could pre-emptively discredit her,” the lawsuit says.
 
Ms. Regan had an affair with Mr. Kerik, who is married, beginning in the spring of 2001, when her imprint, ReganBooks, began work on his memoir, “The Lost Son.” In December 2004, after the relationship had ended and shortly after Mr. Kerik’s homeland security nomination fell apart, newspapers reported that the two had carried on the affair at an apartment near ground zero that had been donated as a haven for rescue and recovery workers.

So much for Regan's credibility. A woman scorned and all that...
 
Well - a few quotes.....

I believe I read somewhere that he was also a business partner of Guilani in the past.

I would say thats a tad bit more then a "guy Rudy knows"

From my knowlege, Hsu is someone who raises money for democratic candidates and has never held or been proffered for an official posting.
You're right Joey...Guilani must be guilty by association. I guess Guilani's overall crime fighting record as a federal prosecutor is worthless now since you Libs finally found a convenient excuse (Kerik) to attack and discredit him. :rolleyes:
 

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