Glenn Beck 8/28 rally: It's a matter of honor

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Glenn Beck 8/28 rally: It's a matter of honor

Dr. Alveda King – the niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., – explains why she's speaking at the Glenn Beck 8/28 rally in Washington this Saturday.

By Alveda King

New York

In front of the Lincoln Memorial in June, a group of students caught up in a moment of spontaneous patriotism broke into song. But the US Park Police were quick to shush the members of the Young America’s Foundation, saying singing is not allowed at the memorial. The song that was stifled? “The Star-Spangled Banner.”

So much for freedom of speech.

At the Martin Luther King, Jr., Center for Nonviolent Social Change in Atlanta this July, an official at the memorial to one of the greatest civil rights leaders in the world – my Uncle Martin – removed a bullhorn from the hands of Father Frank Pavone, an internationally recognized leader of the pro-life movement. We were a group more than 100 strong, in Atlanta to declare that abortion is the greatest violation of civil rights in our day. We brought a wreath to lay at Uncle Martin’s grave while we prayed, but due to a King Center official’s barricade at the gravesite, we weren’t allowed. The National Park Service said that would constitute a demonstration.

So much for freedom of assembly.

Symbols of liberty

Americans are hungry to reclaim the symbols of our liberty, hard won by an unlikely group of outnumbered, outgunned, underfunded patriots determined not to live in servitude to the British Empire. If we want to sing the national anthem at a memorial to the man who led this fledgling nation out of slavery, and made my people free, we should be able to send our voices soaring to the heavens.

Glenn Beck’s “Rally to Restore Honor” this Saturday will give us that chance, and that’s why I feel it’s important for me to be there.

Before the words were out of Mr. Beck’s mouth announcing the Aug. 28 rally, The New York Times noted that it would be at the same place and 47 years to the day since my Uncle Martin gave his “I Have a Dream Speech.” When asked why he chose that date in particular, Beck said he had not realized its significance, but in thinking about it, he saw it is an auspicious day to rally for the honor of the American people. He has said, and he’s right, that Martin Luther King didn’t speak only for African-Americans. He spoke for all Americans, and his words still ring true.

Other groups are planning rallies and demonstrations in Washington that day, and freedom of speech gives them the right to do so – and to criticize me for not jumping on their bandwagon. But Uncle Martin’s legacy is big enough to go around.

A rally about character, not politics


Though critics see it as partisan, Beck’s rally is not a political event, per se. Instead, it is designed to be a refreshing exercise of freedom of speech.

The rally will be a celebration of who we are as a nation and a chance to stop for a moment, reflect, reorganize, and re-energize. It’s a chance to think about character; both our character as a nation and our character as individuals.

Delineating ourselves as red state or blue, liberal or conservative, minority or majority, we have not quite reached the day when men and women are “judged not by the color of their skin but on the content of their character.” We are still marching toward that day. As Uncle Martin said, “we cannot turn back.”

The rally will also give America another chance to honor and thank the men and women in our armed forces for the dangers they face every day in our stead. Unless you have a loved one in Iraq or Afghanistan, it’s too easy to forget that tens of thousands of Americans are far from the comforts of home, are directly in harm’s way, facing an enemy who hates us precisely because we are free. And coming just days before the ninth anniversary of 9/11, the day that roused us from our complacency, we could use another wakeup call, one of our own devising.

When I join Beck and all gathered at the Lincoln Memorial this weekend, I will talk about my Uncle Martin and the America he envisioned. I will talk about honor and character and sacrifice. I will be joined by those who represent the diversity of the human race.

On Saturday, Uncle Martin’s dream of personhood and human dignity will resound across America. And the Park Police should consider themselves forewarned: As we stand in the symbolic shadow of the great American who signed the Emancipation Proclamation, we just might sing.

Dr. Alveda King is the director of African-American outreach for Priests for Life, and the founder of King for America.
 
"Restoring Honor"??
On the edges of the Mall, vendors sold "Don't Tread on Me" flags, popular with tea party activists. Other activists distributed fliers urging voters "dump Obama." The pamphlet included a picture of the president with a Hitler-style mustache.

Keep it classy, teabaggers.

"My question is, when did America lose that honor?" Sekoff asked. "Did we lose that honor when we invaded Iraq for nonexistent WMD? Did we lose the honor when we opened Guantanamo, when we allowed extraordinary rendition? Did we lose the honor when we said waterboarding wasn't torture? Or maybe did we lose our honor when Glenn Beck said the President of the United States had a deep-seated hatred for white people?
 
And others stood around like you are, BZ, and whined, and gritched, and cherry-picked examples from the fringe in order to try to paint an exceptional moment with nasty colours. The answer to Sekoff's question could well be that we haven't quite lost the honour of which Beck speaks. We are simply in danger of such a loss due to the stridency of those from the progressive end of the spectrum.

Beck has said that what he perceived as 'a deep-seated hatred of white people', he now recognizes as the 'us-against-them' mentality stemming from the 'church' BHO attended for twenty years, led by Jeremiah Wright.
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My primary beef w/ the tea-party movement isn't with their legitimate issues (like growing national debt, fat-cat-lobbyists-money-pocket-lined politicians ignoring the voice of the people, loss of freedoms). My beef with this movement is that they've come onto the scene ~6 years too late. The ONLY explanation for this is the fact that they are now supported by alot of anti-Obama money in the shadows (Americans For Prosperity, etc). Too bad for the majority of the legitimate tea-partiers that they are merely pawns in a political ponzi scheme and for the most part are too ignorant to see that.
 
My beef with this movement is that they've come onto the scene ~6 years too late.

They would have been a benefit far earlier then that.

the fact that they are now supported by alot of anti-Obama money in the shadows (Americans For Prosperity, etc).

This is a narrative that has been perpetuated a lot on the left. Proof? Also, how is it the "ONLY explanation". There are plenty of other possibilities. I assume you can give some reason to discount them.
 
This is a narrative that has been perpetuated a lot on the left. Proof?

"Narrative"?? You MUST be kidding. You need to get out of your mother's basement more often.

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Even AFP's own website brags about supporting Tea Party events.
AFP hosting Tea Party

Just recently they've put 1/2 $mil targeting 3 dem reps.

Who is "Americans for Prosperity"?
By Felicia Sonmez

The news today that Americans for Prosperity (AFP) is launching $500,000 worth of new TV ads in Arizona targeting Democratic Reps. Ann Kilpatrick, Harry Mitchell and Gabrielle Giffords is the latest indication that conservative group will be a major player in the November midterm elections.

The new AFP ads come a week after the group's sister organization, Americans for Prosperity Foundation, announced plans to launch a $4.1 million ad campaign targeting 24 competitive House seats in 11 states -- a buy that may well be the biggest of the summer.

Americans for Prosperity's increasing involvement in races this cycle has caught the attention of the New Yorker, which earlier this week published a lengthy investigative piece on the organization's co-founder, billionaire David Koch, and his brother, Charles Koch.

The group has also drawn the fire -- and ire -- of national Democrats, including President Obama, who mentioned it by name in a speech at an Austin fundraiser earlier this month.

"Right now all around this country there are groups with harmless-sounding names like Americans for Prosperity, who are running millions of dollars of ads against Democratic candidates all across the country," Obama said. "And they don't have to say who exactly the Americans for Prosperity are. You don't know if it's a foreign-controlled corporation. You don't know if it's a big oil company, or a big bank."

So who, exactly, is Americans for Prosperity?

Americans for Prosperity, a 501(c)4, is actually one of two groups co-founded by Koch. The other, the Americans for Prosperity Foundation, is a 501(c)3.

Both organizations qualify as not-for-profit organizations under Internal Revenue Service code. A 501(c)(4) is allowed to do considerably more issue advocacy work than a 501(C)(3), however. Neither group has to disclose the identity of its donors or the amounts of money those contributors have given.

Koch, the owner of the Koch Industries oil and manufacturing conglomerate, currently serves as the chairman of Americans for Prosperity Foundation's board and is believed to be one of the group's top donors.

Both arms of the group were formed in 2004 after they split off from a separate group, Citizens for a Sound Economy, which was founded by Koch in 1984. (The 2004 split also led to the founding of FreedomWorks, now chaired by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey.)

Stop wasting my time w/ petty "proof" demands for information only an idiot wouldn't know or would be able to find mountains of it w/ a quick google-search. The monetary connection between AFP, Freedomworks and other groups like them and the Tea Party has been thorougly researched and documented.
 
"Narrative"?? You MUST be kidding. You need to get out of your mother's basement more often.
Can't respond without insults. Par.

Remote linking forbidden...:bowrofl:
Even AFP's own website brags about supporting Tea Party events.
AFP hosting Tea Party

Just recently they've put 1/2 $mil targeting 3 dem reps.



Stop wasting my time w/ petty "proof" demands for information only an idiot wouldn't know or would be able to find mountains of it w/ a quick google-search. The monetary connection between AFP, Freedomworks and other groups like them and the Tea Party has been thorougly researched and documented.
Again with the insults. Johnny, insults are against forum rules. Perhaps you should review them.

Interesting that you use a false accusation by Obama in your quote. He's saying that AFP is a foreign corporation, but Koch is an American. In fact, I posted an article about that weeks ago, but you didn't respond to it. Now you're perpetuating falsehoods - again.

Conservative Group Pushes to Enlist Thousands After Obama Suggests It's Foreign Influenced


Published August 12, 2010
| FoxNews.com
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President Obama speaks at a fundraiser Aug. 9 in Austin, Texas. (AP Photo)

A conservative group with a distinctly pro-American agenda will be signing up thousands of new members, it claims, after President Obama suggested the group was doing the political bidding of foreign corporations.

Leaders of Americans for Prosperity, a national conservative organization that promotes economic opportunity and expressly promotes educating "citizens" about public policy and constitutional limits, say they are flattered the president called out the group by name during a speech to the Democratic National Committee. But, they add, he need not worry about international influence of its 1.2 million members.

"The suggestion that we're anything other than what we claim to be is ridiculous. The substance of the accusation makes no sense," said Phil Kerpen, the group's vice president for policy.

The president singled out the heavyweight organization during a DNC fundraiser in Austin on Monday.

Citing the recent Supreme Court decision that loosened campaign finance rules, he claimed "groups with harmless-sounding names like Americans for Prosperity" could run ads against Democratic candidates with impunity. The concern is that an organization like Americans for Prosperity could dump millions into an election to sway voters without the voters ever knowing who's behind it all.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...ack_EXCLUSIVE:_Mayo_Says_Citi_Cant_Be_Trusted"And they don't have to say who exactly the Americans for Prosperity are. You don't know if it's a foreign-controlled corporation. You don't know if it's a big oil company or a big bank. You don't know if it's a insurance company that wants to see some of the provisions in health reform repealed because it's good for their bottom line, even if it's not good for the American people," Obama said. "A Supreme Court decision allowed this to happen. And we tried to fix it, just by saying disclose what's going on, and making sure that foreign companies can't influence our elections."


Obama did hit pointedly one aspect of the conservative group. Americans for Prosperity was founded by billionaire David Koch of oil company Koch Industries. Koch and his company, however, are American.

Kerpen said AFP's members and donors are, as the name implies, Americans -- the group says it's signing up thousands more supporters in preparation for the fall. He said less than 10 percent of the group's donations are from corporations and that about 70,000 individual donors contribute.

Kerpen said the group is shooting to spend about $45 million in this year's election, targeting about 40 House races and eight Senate races.

He added that the president's remarks show he's "concerned" the campaigns are reaching voters.

"He's got to discredit us, sort of shoot the messenger," Kerpen said, calling the Austin remarks "kind of flattering."

Americans for Prosperity blasted out an e-mail to members after the Austin comments and President Tim Phillips released a statement saying Obama was "making shrill, desperate attacks" at a time when his approval ratings are "dropping rapidly."

"The president is losing on the issues. Americans continue to be disenchanted with Obamacare, his uncontrolled spending habits and vain attempts to pass an energy tax. This is why thousands of new activists continue to join Americans for Prosperity every day. President Obama can continue his attacks but that won't change the fact that November is coming," Phillips said.

"November is Coming" is the name of Americans for Prosperity's bus tour which is hosting rallies and training sessions across the country. The campaign is signing up activists to go door-knocking, enlist other supporters and become local organizers. The bus tour so far has antagonized Democrats in Ohio, Pennsylvania and several other states, while Americans for Prosperity is also running ads against targeted candidates.

One ad went up this month against Michigan freshman Rep. Mark Schauer criticizing him for his votes in favor of the health care overhaul. Schauer is facing a rematch this year against the man he defeated in 2008 -- Republican Tim Walberg. The race is listed as a toss-up by Cook Political Report and other oddsmakers.

Americans for Prosperity earns millions in donations, some of it reportedly from other conservative foundations. As a 501(c)(4) organization, the group is not required to disclose the identities of its donors.

A journalist with the Center for Public Integrity said organizations seek that particular status for that reason -- meaning a mix of unnamed corporations and individuals can end up funding such operations.
"Some groups don't want to go through the disclosure process, but I think that they also try to cater to and attract money from donors who don't want their names disclosed," the journalist said.



Exit question - why is Obama against Americans for Prosperity? Is he against prosperity?
 
Again, Johnny, can you provide evidence and a logical argument to connect that evidence to the conclusion that you reach. So far, you haven't.

If all you have to offer is insults and attempts to show how superior you are, then you are wasting everyone's time.
 
Interesting that you use a false accusation by Obama in your quote. He's saying that AFP is a foreign corporation, but Koch is an American.

He said no such thing, your own post proves it:

"And they don't have to say who exactly the Americans for Prosperity are. You don't know if it's a foreign-controlled corporation. You don't know if it's a big oil company or a big bank. You don't know if it's a insurance company that wants to see some of the provisions in health reform repealed because it's good for their bottom line, even if it's not good for the American people," Obama said. "A Supreme Court decision allowed this to happen. And we tried to fix it, just by saying disclose what's going on, and making sure that foreign companies can't influence our elections."

All Obama stated was that, since they refuse to disclose a list of who is donating to them, that you don't know if it's a foreign corporation that is donating to their cause. He DID NOT call AFP a "foreign corporation". Amazing that you accuse Obama of making a "false accusation" by making one about him yourself. Nice try at distorting his statements, but you FAIL.

Exit question - why is Obama against Americans for Prosperity? Is he against prosperity?

Again, you twist and distort Obama's statement to fit your dogma. He is NOT against AFP, he's against the SCOTUS ACTIVIST JUDGE's ruling that makes it easy for foreign entities to secretly influence US elections.

Why do you want Kim Jong il, Ahmadinejad or Osama Bin Laden to pick our next Congress? You must really HATE the USA. :rolleyes:
 
The whole narrative about the tea parties being dupes for hidden special interests is a rather effective means of changing the focus from the legitimate concerns of the tea partiers to the tea partiers themselves and putting them on the defensive; an effective means of subverting honest dialog and reframing the debate in a self-serving manner to win by default.
The first is the "vast right-wing conspiracy," a narrative made famous by Hillary Rodham Clinton but hardly limited to her. This vision maintains that conservatives win elections and policy debates not because they triumph in the open battle of ideas but because they deploy brilliant and sinister campaign tactics. A dense network of professional political strategists such as Karl Rove, think tanks such as the Heritage Foundation and industry groups allegedly manipulate information and mislead the public. Democratic strategist Rob Stein crafted a celebrated PowerPoint presentation during George W. Bush's presidency that traced conservative success to such organizational factors.

This liberal vision emphasizes the dissemination of ideologically driven views from sympathetic media such as the Fox News Channel. For example, Chris Mooney's book "The Republican War on Science" argues that policy debates in the scientific arena are distorted by conservatives who disregard evidence and reflect the biases of industry-backed Republican politicians or of evangelicals aimlessly shielding the world from modernity. In this interpretation, conservative arguments are invariably false and deployed only cynically. Evidence of the costs of cap-and-trade carbon rationing is waved away as corporate propaganda; arguments against health-care reform are written off as hype orchestrated by insurance companies.

This worldview was on display in the popular liberal reaction to the Supreme Court's recent ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. Rather than engage in a discussion about the complexities of free speech in politics, liberals have largely argued that the decision will "open the floodgates for special interests" to influence American elections, as the president warned in his State of the Union address. In other words, it was all part of the conspiracy to support conservative candidates for their nefarious, self-serving ends.

It follows that the thinkers, politicians and citizens who advance conservative ideas must be dupes, quacks or hired guns selling stories they know to be a sham. In this spirit, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman regularly dismisses conservative arguments not simply as incorrect, but as lies. Writing last summer, Krugman pondered the duplicity he found evident in 35 years' worth of Wall Street Journal editorial writers: "What do these people really believe? I mean, they're not stupid -- life would be a lot easier if they were. So they know they're not telling the truth. But they obviously believe that their dishonesty serves a higher truth. . . . The question is, what is that higher truth?"

In Krugman's world, there is no need to take seriously the arguments of "these people" -- only to plumb the depths of their errors and imagine hidden motives.​
It is rather interesting that Soros funded groups that intentionally mislead are never mentioned. There is more then a little bit of projection going on here...
 

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