Frogman said:
Have YOU tried it? No? Then you have no room to talk.
Simple as that.
I see that you are mad at me for disagreeing with your choice of adding acetone to your car. You wouldn't feel that way if you were 100% sure it were safe. You would have produced evidence that it was ok. Instead, you attack me as having no basis for caution instead of admitting that you may have jumped on the acetone bandwagon without doing the proper research, I did not write my posts to attack you or prove you wrong.
If you read my post before your last one, you will see that I wrote that the jury is still out on whether it is harmful or not. I only commented ony the folly of relying on a single person for information, a person who sells products based on the strength of these claims. No different than a traveling medicine show. If you believe that his testing is adequate, that he is honest with all his claims, then as I also wrote, your car, your choice.
I read his ramblings and they are downright amusing. Did you know that adding too much acetone will raise your octane too high and you will lose mileage? First I ever heard that the energy content of gasoline can be reduced by adding anti-knock chemicals.
He also has a disclaimer on some of the websites he has;
Acetone and Your Engine
Acetone is known to deteriorate cheap plastics and other substances. While the components in a car's fuel system should be of high quality, and thus immune to any deleterious effects from exposure to acetone, be aware that "ideal" is not always the case in practice. Be advised that not all systems have been tested against acetone. Until such thorough testing has been accomplished and certified by a accredited authority, you assume your own liability for experimentally testing acetone in your particular system.
In other words, buyer beware.
Another blurb from his own hand;
Using the ScanGauge at 50MPH, my best mileage was 48-52 in my Neon a few weeks ago. Then I stopped the acetone to do some reverse testing. The next four tanks of the same Texaco gas showed 42-43, 37-38, 33-34, 30-31. No acetone when each tank was filled at half-full. The drop was about 20 MPG overall. Recent tests at a steady 50 MPH show 61-63 MPG in the Neon. People report OVER 62 MPG in Toyota Prius vehicles with a tiny bit of acetone in the gas. The other person with me each time wrote down the results. Single source reporting is not a good idea.
I do agree with the last sentence, single source reporting is a very poor choice when it comes to proving something.
He uses a rather imprecise plug-in module to 'calculate' MPG instead of measuring miles and fuel added, it is not actually average MPH, but instant MPG. The same device that shows over 60 MPG in a Neon. The same device that showed 48-52 in the same car under, what he implies, are the same conditions a few weeks before. So it seems that using acetone and then stopping, then starting up again will gain 50% fuel economy at 50MPH, I guess if you do it again, you get 75% increase? I mean stopping it showed almost a 30% decrease (suprisingly the same decrease that you can get from varying gas stations in your neighborhood from his 'testing method')
Oh yeah, he also sells this module at his website, feel free to buy some to do your own testing.
Another disclaimer, if you read into his spiel deep enough, is that you might not see fuel mileage increase, but it is due to your local gas station having a different mix of fuel additives that do the same job. Although he claims that no refiners have anything like acetone for his surface tension theory, not sure how he expects to directly contradict himself and get away with it. Would make a fine politician I suppose.
I don't personally care what people want to try with their own cars. I just hate to see people who blindly go in on the lastest fad, relying on a self-proclaimed, single source, expert who sells products based on the assumption that his theory is correct.
Just be aware, that is all.
My choice is obviously to not be using acetone, does it work as he claims?
I don't know.
The point is that nobody knows, so as our friend Louis (author of all the acetone articles I could find on the 'net) writes;
You assume your own liability for experimentally testing acetone in your particular system.
While I have great respect for MSDS (I am certified as a hazmat first responder, which sounds much more impressive than it is, but I am very familiar with the sheets), it is not an exhaustive reference. Having said that, I would be much more responsive to the idea that it
may be safe for the fuel pump wiring and seals after reading that it does not react in its pure state to the internals of a fuel pump. The thinking being that the wiring should be similar it its resistance properties. Although mixing chemicals can show some strange results to materials that they would not show singularly.
I am neither recommending or not recommending what anyone does with their car, just don't be a sheep, do some real research before believing what you read on the internet. This rambling post included.
Hopefully, anything I have posted here or above has not caused anyone to believe that I am attacking them personally, I have a great respect for the people on here, it is a forum where people truly try to help each other and I have tried to give my input in the same spirit. If it seems to anyone that I have not given them there due respect, I truly do apologize. It was not my intention to do so.
-D
