how much does the dash, door panels, and door crash bars weigh?

[93markeight]

I just got a 93 Mark viii project and Im considering going all out on weight reduction but first I gotta see how much weight I could really take off. I know a lot of people have done interior swaps so could somebody tell me how much the dash itself weighs? It looks like it could weigh 100 pounds or so. I would keep all the factory electronics, only the dash itself would be replaced, with aluminum, wrapped in black vinyl. I would also replace the factory heater box setup with a lighter aftermarket hot rod heater box. I would also make aluminum door panels wrapped in black vinyl, keeping all switches. Then manual seats, AC delete, Weld wheels, and so on.

questions...

how much does the dash weigh?

how much do the door panels weigh?

how much does the factory heaterbox and all the ducts weigh?

how much do the crash bars in the doors weigh?

how much does the front metal bumper weigh?

 

[Sapperfire]

Pull the motor and drop it in a Fox body.. Bye

 

[Right on the Mark]

Door bars are not like a fox body. They are like glued to the outer door skin and they are just a tube not the large wavy plate like in a fox.

 

[93markeight]

Bump!!!

 

[Markviiiedrea]

Bump!!!

Why?

 

[93markeight]

Pull the motor and drop it in a Fox body.. Bye

I see from your 6000+ posts your a very knowledgeable person with Mark VIII's, so I value your opinion, but I would appreciate it if you used your great Mark VIII knowledge to help me, not leave smart ass comments on my thread. You can build your car your way, and I will build my car my way. Yeah of course I could build another Mustang on Draglites, or another Mark VIII on Cobra wheels, BUT maybe I just want to do something different, whats wrong with that?. Im not sure which route Im going with my Mark VIII yet, but I guarantee the Mark VIII community will appreciate the fxck outta my car when she's done, so please for now on if anybody here doesn't have something helpful to say, don't say anything at all. Thanks

 

[Right on the Mark]

LOL

 

[Silver06S281]

i think a good thread on weight reduction/what everything weights is just what we need. Good things to know...i plan on removing the air injection pump,all the air ride sensors and other crap not needed etc

 

[Markviiiedrea]

I'm with Sapp, unless your car has two hair dryers on it just leave the stuff in there that makes it a Mark VIII. Take what ever money it takes to make a 10 second Fox Body and quadruple that for a Mark VIII, now you have a really quick and expensive t-bird.

 

[-stew-]

Pull the motor and drop it in a Fox body.. Bye

This. Or, if you really want to lighten the car, then do it. Scale it. Gut the thing. Bust put some tools and get rid of every single thing that isn't essential to the operation of the car. Then scale it again, do some math and then be proud of all the weight you pulled from the car.

If you wanna lighten your car, you gotta lighten your car. Who cares what it weighs, if its not needed; get rid of it.

 

[Silver06S281]

This. Or, if you really want to lighten the car, then do it. Scale it. Gut the thing. Bust put some tools and get rid of every single thing that isn't essential to the operation of the car. Then scale it again, do some math and then be proud of all the weight you pulled from the car.

If you wanna lighten your car, you gotta lighten your car. Who cares what it weighs, if its not needed; get rid of it.

I think this is exactly what was being asked/what the op wants to do

 

[chris2523]

This. Or, if you really want to lighten the car, then do it. Scale it. Gut the thing. Bust put some tools and get rid of every single thing that isn't essential to the operation of the car. Then scale it again, do some math and then be proud of all the weight you pulled from the car.

If you wanna lighten your car, you gotta lighten your car. Who cares what it weighs, if its not needed; get rid of it.

this right here. just get in there and do it and don't be so worried about how much everything actually weighs.

 

[93markeight]

I'm with Sapp, unless your car has two hair dryers on it just leave the stuff in there that makes it a Mark VIII. Take what ever money it takes to make a 10 second Fox Body and quadruple that for a Mark VIII, now you have a really quick and expensive t-bird.

I love my Mark VIII the way she sits, so trust me I get what you and Sapp are saying, and I am hesitant on gutting her. BUT I also see a lot of potential with this car to get jiggy with it. I see about 400-500 pounds on this car that I could live without and still keep everyday drivability. Whether you guys agree with weight reduction or not, its not your car, and unless Im putting a Honda spoiler and exhaust on my Lincoln you guys should be helping me, not leaving smart ass comments as if what Im doing is stupid. This is my car, and I think a 3200 pound Lincoln Mark VIII with a 5 speed, coil overs, and upgraded sway bars would be one hell of a fun car to drive. So please for now on lets just keep this thread to weight reduction, the Mark VIII community could use a good thread on this, so lets make one... And for the record Im not all about weight reduction just for the track, its also for handling.... Also I was crunching some numbers and I think I could remove 200-300 pounds and still keep her a sleeper if I decided to go that route. Im all about sleepers, so its tempting. As of right now Im just exploring my options and crunching numbers, I may decide to calm down and make a clean high 13 second sleeper, or go all out for 11's, only time will tell. Til then lets make this a good thread that one day our childrens children could turn to for Mark VIII weight reduction.

 

[-stew-]

You need to throw horsepower at that car if you wanna make it fast. Everything else is just chasing your tail. And you still be chasing h/c/I fox bodies.

And if you pull 700 pounds out of the car, your gonna pull everything that makes that Lincoln a Lincoln out of it, so whats the point?


Go to a junk yard, and buy a 6.0/4l80 from a silverado, throw away the 4.6 in there now, put the six liter in there with a hair dryer on it, and go make people **** bricks.

 

[Right on the Mark]

Mark 8's make sweet looking race cars. I already have and race 2 mustangs and have another street mk8. I love drag racing my mk8 and kicking butt. When i'm on the bottle not many can beat me on street nights. And that's in grandpa's car. See ya,wouldn't wanna to be ya.

 

[93markeight]

I might keep her a sleeper. I had a super clean low mileage 1995 Caprice police package with the LT1, a 2000 Buick Regal GS with the supercharged 3.8L, and a 1998 5.9L Limited Grand Cherokee, all high 14 second cars but I had a lot of fun with them on the street. These new cars just keep getting faster and faster though so Im gonna have to step it up with my Mark VIII. I see an easy 200-300 pounds I could lose without sacrificing any serious luxuries besides the power seats and the AC, but I don't really use that stuff anyways. If I go that route Im getting her repainted something close to the factory green but with a little extra flavor, and lowering her on octastars. Mmmm yeah gets the blood flowin just thinking about it.

 

[Sapperfire]

I see from your 6000+ posts your a very knowledgeable person with Mark VIII's, so I value your opinion, but I would appreciate it if you used your great Mark VIII knowledge to help me, not leave smart ass comments on my thread. You can build your car your way, and I will build my car my way. Yeah of course I could build another Mustang on Draglites, or another Mark VIII on Cobra wheels, BUT maybe I just want to do something different, whats wrong with that?. Im not sure which route Im going with my Mark VIII yet, but I guarantee the Mark VIII community will appreciate the fxck outta my car when she's done, so please for now on if anybody here doesn't have something helpful to say, don't say anything at all. Thanks

Only, you're not trying to build a MarkVIII. Your question was asking how to tear one apart. However, like you said, its your car.

Throw a KB2.1 on it, 4:10 gears, 93 drive shaft, J-mod, Circle D T.C. -3800 stall, sub frame braces, diff braces, bigger brakes, and maybe a 200+ shot of giggle juice and don't even worry about weight reduction

If you must make it lighter, take non-driver seats out, carpet, there's a hundred pounds or so. I wouldn't remove crash bars, an accidental side impact will be no fun at all

 

[dnsherrill]

.... I would appreciate it if you used your great Mark VIII knowledge to help me, not leave smart ass comments on my thread. ..... so please for now on if anybody here doesn't have something helpful to say, don't say anything at all. Thanks

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dude is a trained killer, you cannot stop the Sniper- you can only try to control his snipes
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I'm gonna pull my metal bumper and weigh it this weekend, results TBD

 

[93markeight]

Only, you're not trying to build a MarkVIII. Your question was asking how to tear one apart. However, like you said, its your car.

Throw a KB2.1 on it, 4:10 gears, 93 drive shaft, J-mod, Circle D T.C. -3800 stall, sub frame braces, diff braces, bigger brakes, and maybe a 200+ shot of giggle juice and don't even worry about weight reduction

If you must make it lighter, take non-driver seats out, carpet, there's a hundred pounds or so. I wouldn't remove crash bars, an accidental side impact will be no fun at all

I should have specified in my first post that my interest in weight reduction wasn't just for the track, it was also for over all handling of the car. A few years ago I removed between 400-500 pounds off my street/strip Monte and it was like a different animal after that. She hooked better, handled better, and she was easier to work on with less clutter, less BS, better gas mileage, looked cleaner, everything about the car was improved. I look at the Mark VIII with its aluminum motor, control arms, fiberglass hood, and I wonder where all that 3750 pounds is hiding. That's why I started this thread. I see a heavy car with an impressive drivetrain, now if only I can lighten this car up along with a few bolt on's, I could have myself one naughty little girl. This car isn't my dailey driver, I bought her from my buddy with 106k mileage and a blown trans. Im not replacing the trans until I have all my goodies. Im going to do everything at once while she's all apart. So while she's sitting Id like to work on lightening her up, give me something to do ya know. Now can we please get back on topic here people lol I just wanna know how much this stuff weighs

 

[93markeight]

ya know Im new here to this forum, but I feel like were really bonding here

 

[dnsherrill]

my interest in weight reduction wasn't just for the track, it was also for over all handling of the car.

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try solid anti sway bar(s)...Addco 1.125" or 1.25" if you can spare the $$$...or maybe you can salvage one from a Super Coupe

 

[Markviiiedrea]

ya know Im new here to this forum, but I feel like were really bonding here

Trial by fire, helps to weed out the sensitive pussys.

Things are a bit rougher on this forum but allot of great guys with good knowledge. Remember it's your car you can do what you want with it but we're just going to be honest and let you know what we think and what works.

 

[Sapperfire]

This goes against your weight reduction, but like DNS said, AntiSwayBars. I have the Addco 1.25s solid front and rear, along with front braces and wider wheels. That made my car handle SOOOOO much better. I'm also on coil overs ( Vogtland with Tokico Blues)

I'm thinking of chopping out the X brace behind my back seat and fabbing in a stiffer unit, gotta make my diff brace first thou.

 

[93markeight]

Trial by fire, helps to weed out the sensitive pussys.

Things are a bit rougher on this forum but allot of great guys with good knowledge. Remember it's your car you can do what you want with it but we're just going to be honest and let you know what we think and what works.

Lol that's fine with me, I think were all gonna get along just fine then. Just trust me when I say this Mark VIII is in great hands, and I appreciate all the help.

 

[93markeight]

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try solid anti sway bar(s)...Addco 1.125" or 1.25" if you can spare the $$$...or maybe you can salvage one from a Super Coupe

This goes against your weight reduction, but like DNS said, AntiSwayBars. I have the Addco 1.25s solid front and rear, along with front braces and wider wheels. That made my car handle SOOOOO much better. I'm also on coil overs ( Vogtland with Tokico Blues)

I'm thinking of chopping out the X brace behind my back seat and fabbing in a stiffer unit, gotta make my diff brace first thou.

Thanks, yeah Im more of a budget builder. I like to rely more on my craigslist and junkyard skills rather than buying new. I like the SuperCoupe anti sway bar idea. Now is that front and rear from the SuperCoupe? And is there anything else on the SuperCoupe worth pulling? My car needs springs, Id love to do coil overs but that's probably later on. What springs/shocks would you guys recommend for a budget builder like myself. Id like her to sit nice and low and have a tight sporty responsive handling. SuperCoupe springs maybe? And just for ****s and giggles, how much weight do you think you saved with those coil overs Sapperfire?