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Impressive weapons array protected NH tax evaders


By JOE MAGRUDER
The Associated Press
Wednesday, October 29, 2008; 6:31 PM

CONCORD, N.H. -- The New Hampshire home where a tax-evading couple staved off arrest for nine months was defended by concrete walls, homemade bombs, 60,000 rounds of ammunition and the zealousness of a few fellow believers, testimony and prosecution documents show.
Four supporters of Ed and Elaine Brown have been sent to prison for helping the couple resist efforts to arrest them since their convictions on tax-related felonies in January 2007. The Browns threatened violence if federal agents came onto their Plainfield property to arrest them, and authorities said the four supporters made similar threats, as well.
On Tuesday, one of those supporters, Daniel Riley, 40, of Cohoes, N.Y., received a 36-year prison term that includes a mandatory 30 years for making and using a destructive device in a crime of violence.

Among the explosive devices prosecutors say were seized on the Browns' property were nine homemade antipersonnel mines intended to fire shotgun shells from trees when approaching marshals hit tripwires. Prosecutors said Riley built those mines and brought in a rifle.
"Those devices, also known as spring guns, were designed exclusively to kill U.S. deputy marshals attempting to arrest the Browns," U.S. Attorney Thomas Colantuono said in a statement Tuesday.
The Browns' willingness to entertain anti-government supporters at their home proved to be their undoing. Marshals posed as supporters to get onto the property and arrested them without incident in October 2007.
The Browns are now serving terms of more than five years in prison for avoiding income taxes, which they consider illegitimate, on $1.9 million of income between 1996 and 2003.
Authorities said after their arrests that the Browns would likely face charges resulting from the standoff. But Colantuono's office declined to comment Wednesday on the prospect of new charges.
Authorities say federal agents spent five days clearing the property of explosives last year so it could be searched safely.
The solar- and wind-powered home had concrete walls and clearings creating a defensible perimeter, according to testimony and prosecution documents.
Prosecutors say agents seized from the property 22 pipe bombs; semiautomatic, assault-type rifles strategically placed throughout the house; 60,000 rounds of ammunition; metal cans of gunpowder with fuses or ready to accept fuses, some wrapped in nails intended to become shrapnel; and the tree-placed mines that Riley built.
"The threat was clear, it was imminent and it was lethal," Assistant U.S. Attorney Arnold Huftalen said Wednesday.
Riley bought one of two 50-caliber, high-powered rifles with effective ranges of more than a mile to defend the house, prosecutors said. Huftalen said authorities seized night vision scopes and both armor-piercing and incendiary ammunition for the rifles.
Colantuono said he hopes Riley's long sentence will be a message "that anyone who threatens to injure or kill law enforcement officers who carry out the orders of our courts, and who enforce our laws, will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law."
Other small canisters of explosives were found in trees, placed so they could be detonated by marksmen shooting from the house, Huftalen said. Riley bought two cases of the explosive compound, harmless until its two ingredients are mixed, and took them to Plainfield, according to the government.
In addition to Riley, other supporters convicted of aiding the Browns were Jason Gerhard, of Brookhaven, N.Y., who was sentenced to 20 years in prison, and Cirino Gonzalez of Alice, Texas, who was sentenced to eight years.
Robert Wolffe, of Randolph, Vt., was sentenced to 30 months after pleading guilty to two counts of conspiracy and being an accessory after the fact. Wolffe had cooperated with prosecutors and testified against Gerhard, Riley and Gonzalez at trial.
Riley's sentencing was delayed this summer for a mental health evaluation, part of which became public at Tuesday's hearing, the Concord Monitor reported. Riley was deemed capable of participating in his defense despite a personality disorder, the paper said.
Riley cooperated with Sven Wiberg, his court-appointed lawyer, during his trial, but since has tried repeatedly to fire him. Riley accuses Wiberg of being a federal employee colluding with other government agents against him.
 
Lesson learned. Don't let anybody in that you don't know.

*note to self*
 
A pair of dangerous lunatics.
It's funny that Micheal Dukakis actual pardoned that guy 30 years ago.
 
Funny how dangerous people become when they are attacked. Pretty sure these folks didn't go looking for trouble; in fact, I'd argue they wanted to be left alone.
 
ummmmmm yeah...... so no comments on how the prosecution is twisting things to look like they were looking for a war. These people (trust me this is NH) fully believe in the right to bear arms. They had all kinds of good stuff. They had it long before anyone came after them for their taxes. Now they say that these were designed to take out the deputies... MORONS!!!!!!! noone is going to leave their fortress in the middle fo a gun fight to set mines!!!!!
 
Argh

I love people like this, they stand for all that the country was founded on and the gov't just smashes in on them and tries to smear job them as lunatics. It's folks like this that we need more of, folks willing to say I'm off the grid I pay sales tax on my food and supplies but I don't believe in (insert whatever they don't believe in here) and I want to live my life my way, defend MY home MY way and be damned to anyone who says otherwise.

I would love to live like that but I don't have the land...yet... I do not want to hurt anyone and I doubt they did either, but I DO want to be able to defend myself and my family from all enemies foreign and domestic (sounds familiar doesn't it) Why should the military and police be the only ones allowed to defend us, a wise man once said;

"when seconds count, the police are just minutes away"

I may lean one way on some things but I am way far on the other side when it comes to this issue. I would like to know how many of these compounds there are and I would love to see them organize into a civil defense militia a Well Regulated civil defense militia, if you catch my drift.

I think anyone should be able to live however they want on their own property as long as the don't aggressively attack anyone not deserving of it.

And remember

"just because something is the law doesn't make it right", and just because its right doesn't mean it's gonna have a law to protect it.
 
Yep. Koresh was smeared as a child molester even though there was no evidence whatsoever. The ATF started the rumor to deflect from their bungling of the raid, which by the way was motivated by him not paying $400 in taxes.

This is par for the course.

This story should be a primer on how to defend yourself against the government. Two people held off the Feds for NINE MONTHS? Impressive.
 
Yep. Koresh was smeared as a child molester even though there was no evidence whatsoever. The ATF started the rumor to deflect from their bungling of the raid, which by the way was motivated by him not paying $400 in taxes.
See, that's just not true. He himself had claimed to have fathered a number of kids with girls as young as 12 or 13.

The only thing really at issue is whether he was physically assaulting kids in the compound, specifically at the time of the raid. And that does appear to have been a claim made to justify the bungled raid.

...and it is important to note the Davidian did set fire to their compound. And someone in there was shooting them.

Waco was a cluster, but it's hardly a good example that regular people can relate to.

This story should be a primer on how to defend yourself against the government. Two people held off the Feds for NINE MONTHS? Impressive.
The fact is, there is no way to hold off the government if they are so motivated.
 
...and it is important to note the Davidian did set fire to their compound. And someone in there was shooting them.
INCORRECT. I'd love to see you produce a source for this.

Besides, have you ever examined the flammable properties of cyanide gas?

The Davidians were tried in the court of public opinion. That is a fact.

And you need to check your facts. Koresh did not claim to have slept with girls as young as 12 - he in fact denied it. This is according to People Magazine, 15 March 1993, p. 41. Furthermore, there had already been 2 investigations on claims like this, which turned up nothing. So this was nothing more than rumormongering by the BATF.
 
INCORRECT. I'd love to see you produce a source for this.
This has been investigated.

And here's a general source:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/waco/topten2.html

Besides, have you ever examined the flammable properties of cyanide gas?
Hardly relevant because the feds weren't pumping the house full of cyanide. They used tear gas. Cyanide is a byproduct of burning the gas.

The Davidians were tried in the court of public opinion. That is a fact.
No, actually a few of them were tried in court as well.


And you need to check your facts. Koresh did not claim to have slept with girls as young as 12 - he in fact denied it. This is according to People Magazine, 15 March 1993, p. 41. Furthermore, there had already been 2 investigations on claims like this, which turned up nothing. So this was nothing more than rumormongering by the BATF.
Well, I don't want to dispute what he told people magazine... but he sent out a video tape prior to the seizing of the compound stating specifically that, and subsequent investigation supported that.

To be clear, Waco was a horrible event. The federal government screwed it up in a terrible way. I don't think it's reasonable to imply that the Davidian cult (not the individuals but the collective group) was without blame in the event though. They were responsible for killing agents and ultimately killing their own followers.
 
This has been investigated.

And here's a general source:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/waco/topten2.html
PBS...snort. Your source's information is suspect, considering the FBI "helped" the medical examiner come to his conclusions.

Link

Other Evidence on Deaths of Mothers and Children Ignored
The makers of WTROE were aware of evidence concerning the deaths of the mothers and children as the video was being researched and produced. I know this because in the fall of 1996, director of research McNulty called me to ask for assistance. During several conversations, McNulty admitted he had visited the Museum and was aware of its contents.
The Museum contains evidence that:

1. Some corpses found in the concrete room were so decomposed that the connective tissue had withered, indicating a date of death well prior to April 19, 1993. In addition, the decomposition states of the bodies generally varied widely--some were severely decomposed, some only moderately decomposed, indicating the victims died at different times.

2. Many of those Dr. Peerwani said died of suffocation and blunt force trauma in the (non-existent) structural collapse of the concrete room were found without heads. The autopsies do not question this phenomenon, even though it is evident structural debris would hold a crushed head securely under its weight.

3. Many bodies were mutilated--heads without trunks, trunks without arms, etc. The causes of death on Dr. Peerwani's autopsies do not adequately address this phenomenon as other than incidental. One autopsy on a headless corpse states: "Head injury cannot be ruled out," and then assigns the cause of death to smoke inhalation (Mt. Carmel Doe 32, allegedly John McBean.)

4. Eleven Davidian bodies found in the concrete room were compacted together in an agglutinated mass. Dr. Peerwani's autopsies do not address this phenomenon.

5. There is other compelling evidence that the mother and children died under other circumstances and from other causes than those given on the autopsy reports. The evidence indicates the bodies were laundered to disguise the causes and circumstances of death. The evidence indicates the bodies of the mothers and children were moved into the concrete room after death.

This evidence is fully available for download in the Museum's download page. Because the evidence is found in publicly available documents, WTROE need not have given any credit to the Museum for its research. WTROE could have questioned Dr. Peerwani on these anomalies, and perhaps called in other experts to comment.

Instead, WTROE let Dr. Peerwani off the hook. It chose to ignore these matters. While ignoring these substantive issues, WTROE made false and unsupported statements concerning cyanide poisoning (see above). Surely the makers of WTROE are covering up for the murderers.
 
The government abused it's power at Waco and people died.
After McVeigh blew up the federal building in retaliation to in his mind put the government in it's place things changed.
Now as became the case here they'll wait out a seige or try a ruse instead of going in with guns blazing.
It's one thing to be armed to protect oneself from common criminals
but no one can stand off the government(criminals) indefinately.
Going out in a blaze of glory is for the movies.
It's best not to make oneself a target.
 

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