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What's up everyone? I have a friend who wants to buy my iPod from me because he doesn't want to spend $300 on the new generation iPod. I told him I might sell him my 20 gig iPod with all the accessories for $250 and then I would go buy the new 30 gig iPod. I am wondering, however, if this is going to be a problem when I go to use my new iPod with iTunes because my iTunes is synched with my iPod........I had to register my iPod to my iTunes I thought. Anyone have any insight on this? I just don't want my friend to have any problems if he uses my old iPod on his computer and I don't want to have any problems when I use the new iPod on my computer. Thanks a lot, guys!

I assume if he uses my iPod on a different computer, that it would just erase the music I had on it and he would have to start over with whateve songs he had on his computer............but does the same go for me? I already have 3500 songs on my computer, but is there going to be a problem when I go to download them onto the new iPod or will it not let me due to possible duplication of material. Again, hope someone can help out here..........thanks again!
 
DLS8K said:
What's up everyone? I have a friend who wants to buy my iPod from me because he doesn't want to spend $300 on the new generation iPod. I told him I might sell him my 20 gig iPod with all the accessories for $250 and then I would go buy the new 30 gig iPod. I am wondering, however, if this is going to be a problem when I go to use my new iPod with iTunes because my iTunes is synched with my iPod........I had to register my iPod to my iTunes I thought. Anyone have any insight on this? I just don't want my friend to have any problems if he uses my old iPod on his computer and I don't want to have any problems when I use the new iPod on my computer. Thanks a lot, guys!

I assume if he uses my iPod on a different computer, that it would just erase the music I had on it and he would have to start over with whateve songs he had on his computer............but does the same go for me? I already have 3500 songs on my computer, but is there going to be a problem when I go to download them onto the new iPod or will it not let me due to possible duplication of material. Again, hope someone can help out here..........thanks again!
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From my understand that if you buy a newer iPod it will erase all your music and you will have to start over. They do this so you cant just hand your iPod over to your friend and download all his music. This is the only draw back to the iPod but it makes sense if you think about it. Good luck, I would tell your friend to look on ebay or just buy a new for himself if I where you.

-Scott-
 
Motodrew said:
Here's my suggestion: GO TO A DIFFERENT FORUM!! :waving:
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That wasn't much help.........are you serious? With all the questions about iPods on this forum recently, I figured someone might have some insight on the topic. I do understand that this is a Lincoln LS forum, however, if you would scan through previous posts, you would be surprised to see that we are all here to help each other out.......regardless of the situation. It doesn't really matter what the problem is..........we're a community and we're here to help no matter what the problem is. I'm sure someone will ratify this.

Also, if you to scan through some older posts, you would know all about your rain-sensing wipers.......
 
Alright. I re-call my previous statement. Rude -> YES. No need for me to gain a bad reputation here at LVC. I didn't even bother to read what questions you had on the Ipod, i just assumed you'd have better luck somewhere else. Been a little hot-headed here at work all day, and I hope ya accept my apology. :slap:
 
ohioLS said:
it makes sense if you think about it.
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No it does not make sense

One thing people dont understand, and what the Music Companies are denying, is that your buying a lic to USE that music on ANY device you wish...

that would be like mircosoft saying that if you Buy/build a new PC to REPLACE your old PC you have to buy a new windows lic, which you DONT as long as uninstall windows from your old PC..

Same holds true with Music,

The problem here is simple Greed
 
problem with your logic is you are making the assumption that people are honest. they're not. for every person that gets screwed because they can't upgrade their ipod, there are probably 50 that would use that functionality illegally.

And to your point when people upgrade/build new pc's, most do NOT uninstall their old Windows. Why? Because most people don't believe in paying for non-tangible items. People are inherintly dishonest. If it was "greed" companies wouldn't bother investing millions of $$ into DRM and encryption.
 
Motodrew said:
Alright. I re-call my previous statement. Rude -> YES. No need for me to gain a bad reputation here at LVC. I didn't even bother to read what questions you had on the Ipod, i just assumed you'd have better luck somewhere else. Been a little hot-headed here at work all day, and I hope ya accept my apology. :slap:
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Apology accepted
 
Transferring Windows

The MS logic does not work. There are many instances where you are not allowed to transfer Windows to another computer even if you remove it from your old computer. Read the EULAS. OEM versions of Windows are not allowed to be transferred to ANY other computer even if it is from the same manufacturer. Dell, Gateway, and all of the other OEMS only pay a pittance for their copies of Windows. In the days of Windows 95, 98, and even early Windows 2000 this was true. Just not anymore.

As for the IPOD, your friend will not lose the music on the IPOD unless he tries to add to it or download from it. On my IPOD mini, I can deregister my IPOD from ITUNES and remove all of the existing music on it and sell it to whomever I please without the music. If your friend did not pay for the music, he should not get to use it. ITUNES will not erase your music on your PC, it will just not allow your friend to use the music on it to be downloaded onto his system. There are ways around this, PM me and I will tell you how you can do this.
 
I work in IT so I know the EULA's very well....
bufordtpisser said:
The MS logic does not work. There are many instances where you are not allowed to transfer Windows to another computer even if you remove it from your old computer. Read the EULAS. OEM versions of Windows are not allowed to be transferred to ANY other computer even if it is from the same manufacturer. Dell, Gateway, and all of the other OEMS only pay a pittance for their copies of Windows. In the days of Windows 95, 98, and even early Windows 2000 this was true. Just not anymore.
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True, but you did not pay for it, DELL, Gateway etc did, so that is a bad analogy, if I bought a IPOD pre-loaded with songs then you would have a case;)
 
beaups said:
problem with your logic is you are making the assumption that people are honest. they're not. for every person that gets screwed because they can't upgrade their ipod, there are probably 50 that would use that functionality illegally.

And to your point when people upgrade/build new pc's, most do NOT uninstall their old Windows. Why? Because most people don't believe in paying for non-tangible items. People are inherintly dishonest. If it was "greed" companies wouldn't bother investing millions of $$ into DRM and encryption.
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I am not mamking ANY assumptions, Here in the Good old USA we have innocent until PROVEN guilty,

The mere fact that people may or may not do something illegal is not a cause to "lock down" or prohibit fair use rights. MPAA tried that with Beta Max. RIAA tried it was Cassette Tapes, the only reason DVD/CD did not get this treatment was because no one thought "home recording" could be down with the CD/DVD..... However Every "audio CDR" has a Collective Use fee that is sent to RIAA that most people dont know about.

How would you like it if Lincoln came to your house and told you which roads you could and could not drive YOUR car on?
 
The Straight Scoop

OK… There seems to be a lot of confusion so I will try and give you the answers you are looking for. The answer to your original question can become complicated depending on how you aquired the music that is currently on your iPod. That is... did you load it from your CD collection or purchase some or all of it from the itunes web site.

Your friend will not lose the music on your old iPod unless he opens it in iTunes to add to it. And even then, this can be prevented by changing the setting in itunes (before plugging it in) and setting it for a manual update and then just updating the playlist that you select.

As far a your new iPod goes, assuming you would like to reload all of your old tunes and then some, you will be fine as long as all of the songs existing songs were loaded from CD's or downloaded from somewhere other then the itunes web site. You can only access downloaded itunes that you purchased to the registered iPod. To access these and load them on your new iPod you would have to de-activate your old iPod and this would remove all of your existing music from the old unit. Please keep in mind that this is technicallt the only way to sell your iPod anyway because of the intellectual property rights issue, i.e. copyright laws. To be on the up and up you should just deactivete the old iPod and sell it and everyone will be just peachy!

I hope this helps. Cheers
 
the_ancient said:
I am not mamking ANY assumptions, Here in the Good old USA we have innocent until PROVEN guilty,

The mere fact that people may or may not do something illegal is not a cause to "lock down" or prohibit fair use rights. MPAA tried that with Beta Max. RIAA tried it was Cassette Tapes, the only reason DVD/CD did not get this treatment was because no one thought "home recording" could be down with the CD/DVD..... However Every "audio CDR" has a Collective Use fee that is sent to RIAA that most people dont know about.

How would you like it if Lincoln came to your house and told you which roads you could and could not drive YOUR car on?
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Another bad anology w/lincoln. If lincoln said before I bought the car what roads I could and couldn't drive on then I could make an educated decision. Itunes and windows, etc. make very clear the rules requiring the content they provide. If people don't like those rules, then don't buy those products. It's simple, vote with your $$$. As for people claiming you can get your music transferred to another ipod, this works as long as they are NOT DRM encoded files. If you bought the songs on itunes it'll be some work to get them onto your new ipod. Don't like that? You can either rip your own cd's without DRM or buy a different mp3 player.
 
what you need to do is open the options menu for your ipod on the left hand side of the screen in itunes..then open the general options tab...this will open a window and towards the bottom of it you can choose manual update for music...this will allow you to keep your music on the first ipod and your friend can just plug it in and add his music ..then you do the same with the new ipod...
 
Computers are authorized, not the iPods... but rather than post a long explanation like the people before me, I'll just leave you with this:

Once music arrives in your iTunes library, the real fun begins. Burn songs onto an unlimited number of CDs for your personal use, sync music to an unlimited number of iPods and play songs purchased from the iTunes Music Store on up to five Macs or Windows PCs.
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From: http://www.apple.com/itunes/music/ (last paragraph)
 
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