Is Condi Rice the best choice?

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Condi Rice is set to become the next Secretary of State. Is she the best choice? The press won't even interview her anymore since she is such a devout "Yes woman" for Bush. And her only real security experience has been 1989-1991 as director of Soviet East European Affairs. (pretty much as the Cold War was ending.) No military experience worth mentioning. (unless being on the board of Federal Advisory Committee on Gender-Integrated Training in the Military in 1997 counts) I think she is unprepared for the way the world is after 9/11. Surely there must be someone who is better qualified for this position within the Bush circle. Bryan? Help me out..who's better for this job?
 
I'm surprised she's not bailing like all of Bush's other lackies. I find it interesting that all these people are leaving. I KNEW Powell would leave. He's the only guy in the Bush admin that I would've trusted. He really got a raw deal from Bush. I wish he wasn't such an honorable guy, he'd be able to tell some good stories about Bush and I'm SURE he'd like to. I just get the feeling that he won't though.
 
Katshot said:
I'm surprised she's not bailing like all of Bush's other lackies. I find it interesting that all these people are leaving. I KNEW Powell would leave. He's the only guy in the Bush admin that I would've trusted. He really got a raw deal from Bush. I wish he wasn't such an honorable guy, he'd be able to tell some good stories about Bush and I'm SURE he'd like to. I just get the feeling that he won't though.

She can't do it with out someone telling how and what to do! :Beer
 
This must be the Bush-bashing thread of the day. :N

The following is purely fyi:

Biography of Dr. Condoleezza Rice, National Security Advisor

Dr. Condoleezza Rice became the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, commonly referred to as the National Security Advisor, on January 22, 2001.

In June 1999, she completed a six year tenure as Stanford University's Provost, during which she was the institution's chief budget and academic officer. As Provost she was responsible for a $1.5 billion annual budget and the academic program involving 1,400 faculty members and 14,000 students.

As professor of political science, Dr. Rice has been on the Stanford faculty since 1981 and has won two of the highest teaching honors -- the 1984 Walter J. Gores Award for Excellence in Teaching and the 1993 School of Humanities and Sciences Dean's Award for Distinguished Teaching.

At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions.

From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military.

She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco.

Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded honorary doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, the University of Notre Dame in 1995, the Mississippi College School of Law in 2003, the University of Louisville and Michigan State University in 2004. She resides in Washington, D.C.

May 2004
 
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I would say that she is emminently more qualified to run the country than GWB.
 
For comparison:

• Biography of Madeleine Albright

Madeleine Korbel Albright is America’s first female secretary of state and the highest-ranking woman to serve in the U.S. government.

The U.S. permanent representative to the United Nations from 1993 to 1996, Albright was nominated by President Bill Clinton in December 1996 to become the nation’s 64th secretary of state, succeeding Warren Christopher. Unanimously confirmed by the U.S. Senate, she was sworn into office on Jan. 23, 1997.

As secretary of state, Albright serves as the president’s principal adviser on foreign policy, conducts negotiations related to U.S. foreign affairs, and is a member of the National Security Council.

Albright has been the president of the Center for National Policy, a nonprofit research organization that promotes the study and discussion of domestic and international issues, and a research professor of international affairs and the director of the Women in Foreign Service Program at Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service.

From 1981 to 1982, Albright was a senior fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars at the Smithsonian Institution. She has also served as a senior fellow in Soviet and Eastern European affairs at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Albright was a staff member on the National Security Council and at the White House, where she was responsible for foreign policy legislation, from 1978 to 1981. She served as chief legislative assistant to Senator Edmund S. Muskie from 1976 to 1978.

Awarded a bachelor’s degree with honors in political science from Wellesley College, she attended the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University, received a certificate from Columbia University’s Russian Institute, and earned her master’s and doctorate at Columbia’s department of public law and government.

Born in Prague, Albright is fluent in French and Czech, with good speaking and reading abilities in Russian and Polish. Selected writings include "Poland: The Role of the Press in Political Change," "The Role of the Press in Political Change: Czechoslovakia, 1968," and "The Soviet Diplomatic Service: Profile of an Elite."

She has three daughters.
 
barry2952 said:
I would say that she is emminently more qualified to run the country than GWB.
Or Bill Clinton.
 
Hmmmmm.......I know a lot of people with great Credentials, very books smart but that's about it!

Then again I know a lot of people with great recommendations just to get rid of them!!!
 
Sorry Ron,

Looks like I don't have to respond. Kbob took care of that. And quite well I might add.

The following equation pretty well sums up my feelings of why people don't support this supremely qualified individual. I have read up on her extensively and she is incredibly smart and extremely talented.

Black + Female + Republican = Racist prejudices. Why is the left not singing the praises of this affirmative action candidate. I know, she's not a leftist liberal. Silly me.

I remember when Clinton said he would have a cabinet that reflected America's diversity and it turned out to be the whitest of the white to serve a President. Bush has a diverse cabinet, and no praises, only criticisms.

Condi is an individual I would support for President of the United States, and the one who should run against Hillary if Hillary chooses to run.
 
Bill Clinton would be a good choice as Secretary of State, but i don't think he and GWB would get along to well.
 
MonsterMark,

We agree on the choice of Condi over Hilary. GWB can be Education Secretary :rolleyes: .
 
barry2952 said:
GWB can be Education Secretary :rolleyes: .
I think Laura would make a better education secretary.
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I think GWB should keep his day job.
 
MonsterMark said:
Bush has a diverse cabinet, and no praises, only criticisms.

You know, I have to agree that most of President Bush's first term cabinet was really good. I wish he'd followed thier advice more, but even though he didn't they really stuck by him...what more could anyone ask for in a cabinet?
 
pepperman and barry2952:

Posts # 12 and 13 were hilarious!! Thanks for the laugh! :D
 
I'm well aware of Condi's biography. I'm not nearly stupid enough to question her credentials without knowing them. Like I said...her experience and expertise was with the Cold War climate. The world is VASTLY different than that now. Yes, she is educated.....But so are alot of people. I don't dislike her...apart from the fact I don't think she would be able to tell GWB "NO..this is a bad idea". I just don't see her being able to do that. Race has nothing to do with it. I was asking, if there are other people within the Bush circle of people (Republican or not..doesn't matter) who would be better for the job.....
 
Dr. Rice has her nose so far up Bush's ass it's not funny. As far as her being an effective Secretary of State, I doubt her "credentials" will help her much. She's known throughout the world as a Bush yesman, has already proven to have little or no management skills, knows little or nothing of the politics unique to the department she will be running, and has already freely admitted that she doesn't "do" committees. She's a highly educated black woman with no will of her own. Why would Bush NOT nominate her? He's building a cabinet of yesmen and that will NOT be good for the country in the long run. A cabinet is not intended to work like that. Any president that "stacks" his cabinet in such a way is only proving that he doesn't want to hear anyone disagree with him. What a surprise.

Oh, and BTW, Bryan, your comment about Dr. Rice being your choice for president is the most RETARDED thing I've ever heard you say.
 
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RRocket said:
who would be better for the job.....
1) Former Missouri Senator John Danforth.
2) Indiana Senator Richard Lugar.
3) Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel.

The problem I have with Lugar and Hagel is they both came out publicly and voiced criticism of the US policy in Iraq during the election, and we don't need weak knees at the UN right now. We need a hammer. Danforth can thunder with the best of them.

Condi wants Rumsfield's job in defense. I might be tempted to toss Danforth in there now and tell Condi she has to wait for Rumsfield to step aside. I would go to Rumsfield 1st and get a definite timeline from him and then work with Rice to step in at that time. If Rummy wants to stay more than a year, then I drop Rice in the State job and tell Danforth to give it a rest till then.
 
Katshot said:
Oh, and BTW, Bryan, your comment about Dr. Rice being your choice for president is the most RETARDED thing I've ever heard you say.
I guess I was also retarded calling the election almost exactly, save for Iowa, including the electoral and popular votes.

I understand your comment though. Many times I say things that leave some people grasping at comprehension, only to be awakened to the reality in the future. Such are the perils of long-term vision. It is not easily seen by the naked eye.

As far as Condi :ricesmile, you're obviously not up to speed on this gal. She ran circles around the Senate Committee when she testified. Don't misunderestimate her.
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She'll catch you napping and put the sleeper hold on you.

BTW, Joey pays me to be provocative.
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I think a better question to ask of you Bush-haters is: who would you like to see in some of the vacant cabinet positions? It's obvious to me that you will criticize anyone Bush puts in. Dazzle us with your brilliance, please.
 
Too bad Condi was the one napping when Richard Clarke gave her a document outlining an imminent attack from Al Quaeda....
 
Ron, do you have the memo he sent her?

"Frustrated by what he saw as an inadequate response to terrorism, Clarke sent a memo to national security adviser Condoleezza Rice one week before the deadly attacks, blasting the Defense Department for not doing enough against al Qaeda and criticizing the CIA for holding up a plan to arm Predator drones."

In that memo -- detailed in a commission staff statement -- Clarke told policy-makers to "imagine a day after hundreds of Americans lay dead at home or abroad after a terrorist attack" and to ask themselves, "What else they could have done?"

I sure hope there is more detail to that memo than that. That is like crying wolf.
 

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