Legal k2 weed?

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Has anyone heard of this stuff? Going by the names happy shaman and chunky monkey there's other too. Whats it about? I heard it can be bought at headshops and online and has the same effects as regular smoke but its not, its legal and it doesn't show in piss test. wtf:shifty:
 
Not sure if this is the same stuff but a lot of my friends that smoke and are on probation use pep spice. they have passed manu UAs with it and it does give a similar effect. smoked it a few times and it is pretty nice. they get it at local porn shops ans smoke shops. they used to sell it on the indian rez but they started getting in a lot of fights over it i guess so its banned there now. quite spendy though, i belive its like 20-40 bucks a gram depending where you get it.
 
This was posted on the news here back in Feb.
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JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. — There may be nothing like the real thing, but some industrious marijuana users have seized on an obscure but easily accessible substance that mimics the drug's effects on the brain – creating a popular trade in legal dope that has stymied law enforcement authorities.

The users are buying a product known as K2 – or "Spice," Genie" and "Zohai" – that is commonly sold in head shops as incense. Produced in China and Korea, the mixture of herbs and spices is sprayed with a synthetic compound chemically similar to THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. Users roll it up in joints or inhale it from pipes, just like the real thing.

Though banned in most of Europe, K2's key ingredients are not regulated in the United States – a gap that has prompted lawmakers in Missouri and Kansas to consider new legislation.

"This isn't Jerry Garcia's marijuana," said state Rep. Jeff Roorda, a Democrat from the eastern Missouri town of Barnhart. "They've used chemicals to avoid creating something that's already illegal."

Authorities in Johnson County, Kan., discovered ex-convicts on probation smoking K2, and said it is spreading to high school students.

"This has become extremely popular," said Linda Weber, owner of The Vise smoke shop in the St. Louis suburb of St. Peters, who said she only sells to adults.

She said she sells about 60 packages a week, with suppliers calling her weekly to pitch new brands. She said she's keeping an eye on what state lawmakers decide, though, because "I definitely don't want to be selling it if it comes out that it's harmful."

K2 costs between $20 and $50 for three grams – similar to the street price of marijuana – but with the key advantages of being legal and undetectable in drug tests.

The key ingredients are believed to be the unintended result of scientific research on marijuana's effects.

Several Raleigh, N.C. area smoke shops and convenience stores sell it for $30 to $100 a pack.

North Carolina Board of Pharmacy Executive Director Jay Campbell isn't surprised by the rise of the potent incense.

"Chemistry always gets ahead of regulation," Campbell said.

Campbell believes the same concerns over marijuana impairment apply for K2.

"If this stuff is taking off and it's very popular and it's unregulated, there could be any number of substances added to these products," he said.

Dr. John Huffman, a Clemson University organic chemistry professor, was researching the effects of cannabinoids on the brain when his work resulted in a 1995 paper that contained the method and ingredients used to make the compound. That recipe found its way to marijuana users, who replicated Huffman's work and began spraying it onto dried flowers, herbs and tobacco.

"People who use it are idiots," said Huffman, referring to K2 smokers.

A proposed bill in Missouri would make possession a felony punishable by up to seven years in prison - identical to punishments given to users of real marijuana. A similar bill in Kansas would make possession a misdemeanor punishable, with up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine, also the same as marijuana convictions.

The products are sold widely, but authorities in other states contacted by The Associated Press, including Pennsylvania, California and Michigan, said they haven't heard of their use as a drug.

Police in Missouri and Kansas said they've become aware of K2 in recent weeks.

In the rural southern Missouri city of West Plains, K2 is sold in a head shop just blocks from the high school. A botched attempt by teens to steal K2 from the shop brought the substance to the attention of police.

"A 10-year-old child could walk into a head shop and buy it," said West Plains Detective Shawn Rhoads. "It's not a tobacco, it's not regulated by anything. It would be like sending my 10-year-old son into Wal-Mart to buy potpourri."

Although it is legal, the military has banned possession of K2. The federal Drug Enforcement Administration has classified it a "drug or chemical of concern."

Conner Moore, 20, who is taking a semester off from Moberly Community College, said he and his friends started smoking K2 after reading online news articles and postings about the substance. He compares the high to smoking medical marijuana. The high, he says, is shorter.

"We just got on forums and looked it up and saw what other people said about it," he said. "Obviously if it comes out being bad, I'll obviously stop using it," Moore said. "There's really no sites out there that says what is in K2."

North Carolina State University student Nick Flickinger thinks K2 and similar products should be outlawed. Fellow student Thomas Johnston says not so fast.

“I think they need to study it more. I think they're jumping a little ahead of themselves just because they hear it creates a high,” Johnston said.

State Rep. Nelson Dollar, R-Wake County, said he would like to ban it.

“We particularly need to protect the young people who might take this drug and then go out and drive a car on our streets. This is not what we need,” Dollar said.

There is no data on the drug's toxicity or how long it stays in the body. In mice, it can lead to a lower body temperature, partial paralysis and the temporary inability to feel pain, according to the DEA.

One of the few studies of the compound's use was performed by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction, a Portugal-based agency of the European Union, in November 2009. The study found the amount of synthetic compound varies widely between brands, and that despite being widely available, it isn't clear how many Europeans use it.

Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, said K2 isn't much discussed within marijuana culture. "If government is genuinely concerned about controlling cannabis-related products, there is really only one thing that seems to have an effect: a tax stamp," St. Pierre said.
 
Why don't they just legalize the real stuff and tax it? They state that authorities in California, Michigan, and Pennsylvania hadn't heard of the substance. I find it funny that all three of these states either have or are considering the legalization of medical marijuana.
 
Now I want to try some. Wonder what it tastes like?
 
Now I want to try some. Wonder what it tastes like?

They have different flavors of it, it really depends on the brand. The problem with this stuff is that it is not regulated so people pretty much lace it with whatever the hell they want. There's been several reported cases of people being hospitalized from this stuff. The herbs themselves have been shown to have no high giving effects, it's the chemicals that the herbs are being laced with. Here's a news story about several people who were hospitalized from it: http://www.delmarvanow.com/article/20100323/DW01/3230317
 
Fine, I will just stick with my regular stuff. :D
 
This was posted on the news here back in Feb.
c/p

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. — There may be nothing like the real thing, but some industrious marijuana users have seized on an obscure but easily accessible substance that mimics the drug's effects on the brain – creating a popular trade in legal dope that has stymied law enforcement authorities.

The users are buying a product known as K2 – or "Spice," Genie" and "Zohai" – that is commonly sold in head shops as incense. Produced in China and Korea, the mixture of herbs and spices is sprayed with a synthetic compound chemically similar to THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. Users roll it up in joints or inhale it from pipes, just like the real thing.

Though banned in most of Europe, K2's key ingredients are not regulated in the United States – a gap that has prompted lawmakers in Missouri and Kansas to consider new legislation.

"This isn't Jerry Garcia's marijuana," said state Rep. Jeff Roorda, a Democrat from the eastern Missouri town of Barnhart. "They've used chemicals to avoid creating something that's already illegal."

Authorities in Johnson County, Kan., discovered ex-convicts on probation smoking K2, and said it is spreading to high school students.

"This has become extremely popular," said Linda Weber, owner of The Vise smoke shop in the St. Louis suburb of St. Peters, who said she only sells to adults.

She said she sells about 60 packages a week, with suppliers calling her weekly to pitch new brands. She said she's keeping an eye on what state lawmakers decide, though, because "I definitely don't want to be selling it if it comes out that it's harmful."

K2 costs between $20 and $50 for three grams – similar to the street price of marijuana – but with the key advantages of being legal and undetectable in drug tests.

The key ingredients are believed to be the unintended result of scientific research on marijuana's effects.

Several Raleigh, N.C. area smoke shops and convenience stores sell it for $30 to $100 a pack.

North Carolina Board of Pharmacy Executive Director Jay Campbell isn't surprised by the rise of the potent incense.

"Chemistry always gets ahead of regulation," Campbell said.

Campbell believes the same concerns over marijuana impairment apply for K2.

"If this stuff is taking off and it's very popular and it's unregulated, there could be any number of substances added to these products," he said.

Dr. John Huffman, a Clemson University organic chemistry professor, was researching the effects of cannabinoids on the brain when his work resulted in a 1995 paper that contained the method and ingredients used to make the compound. That recipe found its way to marijuana users, who replicated Huffman's work and began spraying it onto dried flowers, herbs and tobacco.

"People who use it are idiots," said Huffman, referring to K2 smokers.

A proposed bill in Missouri would make possession a felony punishable by up to seven years in prison - identical to punishments given to users of real marijuana. A similar bill in Kansas would make possession a misdemeanor punishable, with up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine, also the same as marijuana convictions.

The products are sold widely, but authorities in other states contacted by The Associated Press, including Pennsylvania, California and Michigan, said they haven't heard of their use as a drug.

Police in Missouri and Kansas said they've become aware of K2 in recent weeks.

In the rural southern Missouri city of West Plains, K2 is sold in a head shop just blocks from the high school. A botched attempt by teens to steal K2 from the shop brought the substance to the attention of police.

"A 10-year-old child could walk into a head shop and buy it," said West Plains Detective Shawn Rhoads. "It's not a tobacco, it's not regulated by anything. It would be like sending my 10-year-old son into Wal-Mart to buy potpourri."

Although it is legal, the military has banned possession of K2. The federal Drug Enforcement Administration has classified it a "drug or chemical of concern."

Conner Moore, 20, who is taking a semester off from Moberly Community College, said he and his friends started smoking K2 after reading online news articles and postings about the substance. He compares the high to smoking medical marijuana. The high, he says, is shorter.

"We just got on forums and looked it up and saw what other people said about it," he said. "Obviously if it comes out being bad, I'll obviously stop using it," Moore said. "There's really no sites out there that says what is in K2."

North Carolina State University student Nick Flickinger thinks K2 and similar products should be outlawed. Fellow student Thomas Johnston says not so fast.

“I think they need to study it more. I think they're jumping a little ahead of themselves just because they hear it creates a high,” Johnston said.

State Rep. Nelson Dollar, R-Wake County, said he would like to ban it.

“We particularly need to protect the young people who might take this drug and then go out and drive a car on our streets. This is not what we need,” Dollar said.

There is no data on the drug's toxicity or how long it stays in the body. In mice, it can lead to a lower body temperature, partial paralysis and the temporary inability to feel pain, according to the DEA.

One of the few studies of the compound's use was performed by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction, a Portugal-based agency of the European Union, in November 2009. The study found the amount of synthetic compound varies widely between brands, and that despite being widely available, it isn't clear how many Europeans use it.

Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, said K2 isn't much discussed within marijuana culture. "If government is genuinely concerned about controlling cannabis-related products, there is really only one thing that seems to have an effect: a tax stamp," St. Pierre said.





Sounds to me like it is asian angel dust ,whatever it is, it is toxic man made chemical crap!!! stick to the real thing, you know the stuff god put here for your enjoyment
 
I hear it taste like :q:q:q:q and its suppose to be uses as incense. But for that price you might as well smoke the real thing.
 
i had been using it lately as im trying to get a REAL job. it does "work" but its very short lived. its basically just plant matter that they spray a synthetic canibanoid onto. its been banned in my county but not the surrounding ones yet. i really dont like it, its man made and basically everything that pot doesnt stand for.
as far as people having seizures and going to the hospital, i think its kids that dont normally smoke that decide to try it since its legal. they end up smoking too much too fast and freak out. the stuff can be pretty heavy and give you some visuals if you smoke too much of it.

i say just legalize the real deal and you wont have any problems with this shyt. you can make rope, fabric and oil from this one plant? plus it gets you high? cmon people
 
so ..in short, it's a poison.
Perhaps later someone can start a good huffing thread.
 
anyone got some gold paint? lol yeah im really not for the stuff, its sad that its "legit" if you need to take a UA.
 
so ..in short, it's a poison.
Perhaps later someone can start a good huffing thread.

ROFL.
Its all poison right?
Including booze.

Even when your buying bud on the street, do you know what is in it?
At least in Cal. you can go to the doc, get a card, then you know what your buying.
 
^^what this guy said^^ hell, you drink too much water or take in too much oxygen it can kill you.
 

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