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GOP Paying Legal Bills of Bush Official

By JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writer Thu Aug 11, 3:08 AM ET

WASHINGTON - Despite a zero-tolerance policy on tampering with voters, the Republican Party has quietly paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to provide private defense lawyers for a former Bush campaign official charged with conspiring to keep Democrats from voting in New Hampshire.

James Tobin, the president's 2004 campaign chairman for New England, is charged in New Hampshire federal court with four felonies accusing him of conspiring with a state GOP official and a GOP consultant in Virginia to jam Democratic and labor union get-out-the-vote phone banks in November 2002.

A telephone firm was paid to make repeated hang-up phone calls to overwhelm the phone banks in New Hampshire and prevent them from getting Democratic voters to the polls on Election Day 2002, prosecutors allege. Republican John Sununu won a close race that day to be New Hampshire's newest senator.

At the time, Tobin was the RNC's New England regional director, before moving to
President Bush's 2004 re-election campaign.

A top New Hampshire Party official and a GOP consultant already have pleaded guilty and cooperated with prosecutors. Tobin's indictment accuses him of specifically calling the GOP consultant to get a telephone firm to help in the scheme.

"The object of the conspiracy was to deprive inhabitants of New Hampshire and more particularly qualified voters ... of their federally secured right to vote," states the latest indictment issued by a federal grand jury on May 18.

Since charges were first filed in December, the RNC has spent more than $722,000 to provide Tobin, who has pleaded innocent, a team of lawyers from the high-powered Washington law firm of Williams & Connolly. The firm's other clients include Bill and
Hillary Clinton and former Housing Secretary Henry Cisneros.

The GOP's filings with the FEC list the payments to Williams & Connolly without specifying they were for Tobin's defense. Political parties have wide latitude on how they spend their money, including on lawyers.

Republican Party officials said they don't ordinarily discuss specifics of their legal work, but confirmed to The Associated Press they had agreed to underwrite Tobin's defense because he was a longtime supporter and that he assured them he had committed no crimes.

"Jim is a longtime friend who has served as both an employee and an independent contractor for the RNC," a spokeswoman for the RNC, Tracey Schmitt, said Wednesday. "This support is based on his assurance and our belief that Jim has not engaged in any wrongdoing."

The Republican Party has repeatedly and pointedly disavowed any tactics aimed at keeping citizens from voting since allegations of voter suppression surfaced during the Florida recount in 2000 that tipped the presidential race to Bush.

Earlier this week, RNC chairman Ken Mehlman, the former White House political director, reiterated a "zero-tolerance policy" for any GOP official caught trying to block legitimate votes.

"The position of the
Republican National Committee is simple: We will not tolerate fraud; we will not tolerate intimidation; we will not tolerate suppression. No employee, associate or any person representing the Republican Party who engages in these kinds of acts will remain in that position," Mehlman wrote Monday to a group that studied voter suppression tactics.

Dennis Black and Dane Butswinkas, two Williams & Connolly lawyers for Tobin, did not return calls Wednesday seeking comment. Brian Tucker, a New Hampshire lawyer on the team, declined comment.

Tobin's lawyers have attacked the prosecution, suggesting evidence was improperly introduced to the grand jury, that their client originally had been promised he wouldn't be indicted and that he was improperly charged under one of the statutes.

Tobin stepped down from his Bush-Cheney post a couple of weeks before the November 2004 election after Democrats suggested he was involved in the phone bank scheme. He was charged a month after the election.

Paul Twomey, a volunteer lawyer for New Hampshire Democrats who are pursuing a separate lawsuit involving the phone scheme, said he was surprised the RNC was willing to pay Tobin's legal bills and that it suggested more people may be involved.

"It originally appeared to us that there were just certain rogue elements of the Republican Party who were willing to do anything to win control of the U.S. Senate, including depriving Americans of their ability to vote," Twomey said.

"But now that the RNC actually is bankrolling Mr. Tobin's defense, coupled with the fact that it has refused some discovery in the civil case, really raises the questions of who are they protecting, how high does this go and who was in on this," Twomey said.

Federal prosecutors have secured testimony from the two convicted conspirators in the scheme directly implicating Tobin.

Charles McGee, the New Hampshire GOP official who pleaded guilty, told prosecutors he informed Tobin of the plan and asked for Tobin's help in finding a vendor who could make the calls that would flood the phone banks.

Allen Raymond, a former colleague of Tobin who operated a Virginia-based telephone services firm, told prosecutors Tobin called him in October 2002, explained the telephone plan and asked Raymond's company to help McGee implement it.

Raymond's lawyer told the court that Tobin made the request for help in his official capacity as the top RNC official for New England and his client believed the RNC had sanctioned the activity.
 
Corruption at the highest levels of this country.

Here's the right's response:

CLINTON DID IT TOO, waaah waaah waaahhhh.

Yep, ALL polititions are corrupt SOBs, and BuSh and the GOP aren't any better than Clinton and the Dems.
 
Just because they are paying to defend him doesn't make them involved in what happened. And not to mention that what happened technically didn't deny anyone the right to vote. If you can explain how it did I would be amazed! It's been proven that the dems tactics of getting people out to vote havne't worked as well as the republicans, so what makes you think this would have changed anything. I'm not condoning it, and I hope all involved get prosecuted to the fullest, but I mean give me a break. No one's rights were violated. Everyone who could have voted had the chance too. It appears that people in your party were just too lazy to go vote.
 
Don't tell me you forgot when i cried foul during the 2004 election when the Democrats tried to steal the national election. Registering people on the street without ID, registering 10 voters in a house only showing 2 voters. Ya, the Dems don't cheat. Heck, it is the only way they can win. Now we have a Democratic Governor who thinks it disenfranchises people to need to show an ID to vote. You guys on the left crack me up.

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Inquiry finds evidence of fraud in election

Cast ballots outnumber voters by 4,609

By GREG J. BOROWSKI
gborowski@journalsentinel.com


Posted: May 10, 2005

Investigators said Tuesday they found clear evidence of fraud in the Nov. 2 election in Milwaukee, including more than 200 cases of felons voting illegally and more than 100 people who voted twice, used fake names or false addresses or voted in the name of a dead person.



Officials said charges will be filed in coming weeks, as individual cases are reviewed and more evidence is gathered.

Nonetheless, it is likely that many - perhaps most - of those who committed fraud won't face prosecution because city records are so sloppy that it will be difficult to establish cases that will stand up in court.

And even now, three months after the investigation, officials have not been able to close a gap of 7,000 votes, with more ballots cast than voters listed. Officials said the gap remains at 4,609.

U.S. Attorney Steve Biskupic likened it to trying to prove "a bank embezzlement if the bank cannot tell how much money was there in the first place."

Biskupic announced the preliminary findings at a news conference, along with Milwaukee County District Attorney E. Michael McCann, who is also overseeing the joint inquiry.

Tuesday's announcement comes after a Journal Sentinel investigation that found widespread problems with the election in the city, including that the election totals themselves were not double-checked by city and county panels charged with doing so.

Some of the problems identified by the newspaper, such as spotty compliance with procedures to verify same-day registrants, are broader and are the subject of a statewide audit approved by lawmakers.

Tuesday's announcement could breathe new life into the Republican-backed photo ID debate, which did not survive a veto from Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle and might instead eventually go to voters as a proposed constitutional amendment.

A photo ID requirement might have caught some of the problems highlighted in Tuesday's preliminary report. It notes cases of people voting in the name of a dead person or as someone else. Investigators located some people listed as voting who said they did not vote.

 
MAllen82 said:
It's been proven that the dems tactics of getting people out to vote havne't worked as well as the republicans,
You are dangerously wrong there. The left has been falsifying election records for the last couple of cycles. We need a national registry to vote based off of the social security number to keep people from absentee voting and then voting again. Right now that is a huge Democrat tactic. Trust me, these guys are very good at cheating and the media will never call them on it. In Wisconsin, we PROVED almost 20,000 registrations were invalid but the Democrat election supervisor said they would allow ALL the registrations, even though people like me went to some of the addresses listed and took pictures of empty lots, parking structures, you name it. If Bus would have lost Ohio, Kerry would have won because of the fraud that happened in Wisconsin. Bush only lost by 5,000 votes here. We had more votes than registrations.
 
JohnnyBz00LS said:
Corruption at the highest levels of this country.

Here's the right's response:



Yep, ALL polititions are corrupt SOBs, and BuSh and the GOP aren't any better than Clinton and the Dems.

Your statement itself admits Clinton and the Dems are of ill repute. Yet you bash Bush and the republicans. DO YOU HAVE ANY BETTER CANDIDATES?

As far as the article, if they find him guilty, then he should pay for his crimes. But he is innocent until proven guilty in America, despite how much you libs love to convict in the headlines.
 
MonsterMark said:
You are dangerously wrong there. The left has been falsifying election records for the last couple of cycles. We need a national registry to vote based off of the social security number to keep people from absentee voting and then voting again. Right now that is a huge Democrat tactic. Trust me, these guys are very good at cheating and the media will never call them on it. In Wisconsin, we PROVED almost 20,000 registrations were invalid but the Democrat election supervisor said they would allow ALL the registrations, even though people like me went to some of the addresses listed and took pictures of empty lots, parking structures, you name it. If Bus would have lost Ohio, Kerry would have won because of the fraud that happened in Wisconsin. Bush only lost by 5,000 votes here. We had more votes than registrations.

What I was talking about was the legal ways of getting people to vote. Flyers, ads, telephone banks and stuff. That is why they have to resort to cheating. And it is proven that as far as the legal efforts, the dems are way behind. But that's really because they don't have much of a base anymore. It's just made up of people who hate Bush, but most of the time disagree with eachother as well.
 
fossten said:
Your statement itself admits Clinton and the Dems are of ill repute. Yet you bash Bush and the republicans. DO YOU HAVE ANY BETTER CANDIDATES?

As far as the article, if they find him guilty, then he should pay for his crimes. But he is innocent until proven guilty in America, despite how much you libs love to convict in the headlines.

Well, headlines is all they ever really have. I haven't seen any amazingly ground breaking news about the RNC that has been proven true. It's just like the NY Times trying to get into the adoption records of Roberts. They are looking for absolutely anything and everything to discredit republicans, but all they end up doing is discrediting themselves!
 
JohnnyBz00LS said:
Here's the right's response:

Yep, ALL polititions are corrupt SOBs, and BuSh and the GOP aren't any better than Clinton and the Dems.
HAHAHA Johnny. Faced with the truth, I'll accept a gut chuckle from you.
 
Glad to see Johnny's still lurking. I was afeard the left had run away with their tails b/t their legs.


Anybody know where barry is?
 
fossten said:
I was afeard the left had run away with their tails b/t their legs.


fossten said:
Anybody know where barry is?

fossten said:
I was afeard the left had run away with their tails b/t their legs.
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Omigosh...it's a barry sighting!

And he drops such profound knowledge on us yet again!:gr_hail: :bowrofl:
 

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