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salutations,

Lately I've been reading through my manual and of course ford says the only thing to use is motorcraft everything else is poison....anyway do all of you only use motorcraft parts or do you use anything that has a good reputation.

lets see:
oil-I think i'm going to use mobil 1 5-w20 full syn. because I heard from you guys that, that is the best

oil filter-what do you think is the best I'm thinking of getting motorcraft

spark plugs- what do you guys recommend?

air filter- any recommendations?

ps. is motorcraft availible at retailers like auto zone or is it hard to find
 
stateproperty3423 said:
salutations,

Lately I've been reading through my manual and of course ford says the only thing to use is motorcraft everything else is poison....anyway do all of you only use motorcraft parts or do you use anything that has a good reputation.

lets see:
oil-I think i'm going to use mobil 1 5-w20 full syn. because I heard from you guys that, that is the best

oil filter-what do you think is the best I'm thinking of getting motorcraft

spark plugs- what do you guys recommend?

air filter- any recommendations?

ps. is motorcraft availible at retailers like auto zone or is it hard to find

top of the eveing to you,

I use the motorcraft oil filter, plugs are still one of things that you will not find conclusive data that has been objectively studied but I hear frequently that the bosch plats are not good.

I have used moptorcraft and recently installed the Denso Iridiums which I have been pleased with.

I use the K&N but find that recharging the filter is a PITA but oyu can drive them for a while.

You can get the motorcraft stuff at AZ.
 
the only thing i use that is motorcrap is the oil filter, O2 sensors, maybe fuel filter... i would have to think about some more stuff!
 
stateproperty3423 said:
salutations,

Lately I've been reading through my manual and of course ford says the only thing to use is motorcraft everything else is poison....anyway do all of you only use motorcraft parts or do you use anything that has a good reputation.

lets see:
oil-I think i'm going to use mobil 1 5-w20 full syn. because I heard from you guys that, that is the best

oil filter-what do you think is the best I'm thinking of getting motorcraft

spark plugs- what do you guys recommend?

air filter- any recommendations?

ps. is motorcraft availible at retailers like auto zone or is it hard to find


Dear Sir,

Greetings and salutations. lol. Yea, I use Mobile synthetic oil and a motorcraft oil filter. I used to use a fram oil filter, but i was getting a slight ticking so I thought it might be from using the fram instead of the motorcraft. Once I switched to motorcraft, the ticking pretty much disappeared. But be prepared, the oil filter for a V8 costs around $9 at advance auto...

If your not using an intake and don't want to spend the $$$ on a K&N filter I would probably go with a Fram or similar product. As for the spark plugs I am in the same boat as you. I would like to know what kind of plugs ford puts in the LS stock. (I am guessing motorcraft?).

Also, about how often are we supposed to change the plugs? Is it once a year or twice a year?
 
I just put Castrol GTX 5w-30 in my wifes LS, K&N air filter (pays for itself very soon) and Fram oil filter. I would prefer a Castrol oil filter because I once read the Fram oil filters aren't the best but I couldn't find one. I tried different oils and filters over the years in different vehicles and couldn't really tell a difference.
Oh I also put some Z-Max oil and fuel treatment in it.
I used it a couple years ago in my Pathfinder and there is one place where I could tell a difference. There is this hill I would drive up every night one the way home and it would always downshift in order to make it up the hill. It never did downshift after I put in the ZMax so it must of done something good in there.

Where is the fuel filter on these V6 engines? Are they hard to change?

Thanks
 
I just went out and bought motorcraft oil and filter again and had to get a purolator air filter because Advance did not have an K&n for me. I just got what the book said, but I've heard good things about mobil 1 and almost decided to get it this time but I decided not to of course. Together the 7 quarts of motorcraft oil, oil filter, and air filter cost close to $40, well I did purchase maguiars hot tire shine or whatever too, so knock off about $6 or so.
 
BBoyd said:
Dear Sir,

...snip... I would like to know what kind of plugs ford puts in the LS stock. (I am guessing motorcraft?).

Also, about how often are we supposed to change the plugs? Is it once a year or twice a year?

Yes...they are Motorcraft. From the factory, you will find AGSP32F plugs in one side of the motor, and AGSP32FSM on the other side. Yet, when you buy replacements, you will only get the AGSP32F plugs. Don't worry, this is normal. Ford uses a slightly different plug from side to side from the factory on most of their applications. As to why is interesting, but DIS and COP ignition systems to some very interesting things...including "firing" the plug from the ground to the center electrode at times instead of the other way around. It's complicated and I don't profess to know all the engineering involved.

I have had Ford tell me not to use the Bosch Platinum plugs due to some issues that have occured with them. Don't know what they are, but with the life and performance you get from the Motorcraft's, why chance it?

As to when you should change them? Well, I've seen many vehicles with 100,000 miles on the original set of plugs and they still look great. The gap can increase over time due to "wear" which can increase resistance, but if the engine is in good mechanical condition, you should get several years use before changing is required. I just did some maintenance on my son's 01 LS8 the other day and decided to change the plugs only because I was in it that far anyway. With almost 50,000 miles on the car, the plugs looked brand new and the gap was still in specs. If I hadn't already purchased plugs, I wouldn't have hesitated to screw them back in for many more miles use.
 
Quick question. I've been look around online for oils and from what i have seen mobil 1 does not make the 5w20 oil that the manual for the 03 v6 calls for. only motorcraft makes it but it is not 100% synthetic. So whats better using the thicker mobil 1 5w30 100% syn. or use the motorcraft 5w20 syn. blend? will using the 30 instead of the 20 harm my engine? and is the stock oil that comes with the car when you buy it new the motorcraft 5w20 synthetic blend?
 
stateproperty3423 said:
Quick question. I've been look around online for oils and from what i have seen mobil 1 does not make the 5w20 oil that the manual for the 03 v6 calls for. only motorcraft makes it but it is not 100% synthetic. So whats better using the thicker mobil 1 5w30 100% syn. or use the motorcraft 5w20 syn. blend? will using the 30 instead of the 20 harm my engine? and is the stock oil that comes with the car when you buy it new the motorcraft 5w20 synthetic blend?

Havent had the LS long enough to do any service to it but...

Oil=Penzoil
plugs=Autolite
Air and oil Filters=Fram

I actually plan on having all services done on the LS by the dealer. They did a good job on my Mark VIII.
 
Dartastic said:
Havent had the LS long enough to do any service to it but...

Oil=Penzoil
plugs=Autolite
Air and oil Filters=Fram

I actually plan on having all services done on the LS by the dealer. They did a good job on my Mark VIII.

Ouch dartastic just a suggestion but you might want to drop penzoil for your oil. I have heard from a lot of mechanics rebuilding engines and such that stuff is nasty.. Note i am not a mechanic but i trust the mechanics i talk to as friends and mechanics.
 
I generally change my own oil, but have found that the local Lincoln dealership changes it for cheaper than I can do it myself for, right around $21.00 w/tax. I'm assuming they use all motorcraft parts.
 
dzienkob said:
I generally change my own oil, but have found that the local Lincoln dealership changes it for cheaper than I can do it myself for, right around $21.00 w/tax. I'm assuming they use all motorcraft parts.

Ive owned alot of cars and all of them V8's and had never had any engine trouble. Over 100k on 3 mustangs, 78 Bronco, 74 Bronco and a Lincoln Mark VIII. But when I have the oil changed in the LS Ill most likely specify a good synthetic.
 
stateproperty3423 said:
Quick question. I've been look around online for oils and from what i have seen mobil 1 does not make the 5w20 oil that the manual for the 03 v6 calls for.
You need to look harder--or at least at WalMart or AutoZone. I just put 6.5 quarts of Mobil1 5W-20 in my '04 LS V8 last month.
 
I've been look around online for oils and from what i have seen mobil 1 does not make the 5w20

There is Mobil 1 5w20 out there but it's still fairly new; stores in your area may not carry it yet. I haven't seen it anywhere out here yet so I use 5w30.

As far as maintenence items go here's my breakdown:

LS(78,000mi):
Oil, fuel, air, & a/c filters=Motorcraft
Oil=Mobil 1
Plugs= NGK, copper
P/S and fan fluid=Superflo Mercon III
Tranny fluid & filter=Haven't had 'em changed yet, but will use Motorcraft

Crown Vic(129,000mi):
Fuel, trans & air filters=Motorcraft
Oil filter=Purolator Pure1
Oil=Mobil 1
Plugs=Motorcraft, copper
P/S fluid=Superflo Mercon III
Tranny Fluid=Motorcraft Mercon V

I do all the maintenance on both of them and have never had any problems, knock on wood. I've never had the check engine light come on in either car (heck, I've unplugged stuff just to make sure they work). I use these products based on my own experience and inputs from others.
:wrench
P.S. If it sounds like I'm trying to sell stuff, I'm not. I'm just giving my 2cents.
 
dzienkob said:
I generally change my own oil, but have found that the local Lincoln dealership changes it for cheaper than I can do it myself for, right around $21.00 w/tax. I'm assuming they use all motorcraft parts.

Motorcraft parts, yes! But Motorcraft oil? Maybe not. Many dealers have deals with Pennzoil and Quaker State for their oils. They buy it from them in drums at a very reduced price and receive other services for the deal too. Ask! My dealer uses Pennzoil unless you specifically ask for Motorcraft oil.
 
I use mobil 1 5w20 in my LS and my 04 GT. That means that I have to buy a whopping 14 guarts.

I only use Wix filters for oil and a K&N for the air. I have seen Fram filters cut open and they are crap now.
 
stateproperty3423 said:
salutations,

Lately I've been reading through my manual and of course ford says the only thing to use is motorcraft everything else is poison....anyway do all of you only use motorcraft parts or do you use anything that has a good reputation.

lets see:
oil-I think i'm going to use mobil 1 5-w20 full syn. because I heard from you guys that, that is the best

oil filter-what do you think is the best I'm thinking of getting motorcraft

spark plugs- what do you guys recommend?

air filter- any recommendations?

ps. is motorcraft availible at retailers like auto zone or is it hard to find

The advantage to Motorcraft is that they definitely will meet Ford Spec and work with no problems. Most name brands will also work well and meet spec. It is when you get into discount brands that you have to be more careful.

I use Mobil 1 in almost everything with an engine since 1980. Dino oil is also excellent but I believe Ford spec requires at least a syn blend. So a good Syn or blend meeting the API and SAE spec for your engine will be fine. Note that some cars will startup quieter with 5W30 instead of 5W20, mine went form maybe 5 sec to less than half a sec of clatter on cold start and that was using a suspect Fram filter instead of the Motorcraft that came on it. If your car is still under warranty it may be an issue if you use 5W30, but I use it since I have never had an oil related failure and don't expect Mobil 1 to fail me now. In my experience the syns seem to pour a bit thinner than the equivalent dino oil in any case, so wild guessing is that you are not going to have pumping issues with a syn that is slightly above spec. Just my opinion.

I prefer Purolator(there are store brands made by them) but have had difficulty finding them for the LSV8. So I bought Wix thru mailorder since I heard they have a good reputation and have the specified anti drainback valve(not all brands do). I am currently using Fram since that is all the local Autozone carried, I am nervous about Fram due to bad press. From my experience the chain stores do not always carry the same brands or models from store to store, so even though my local Autozone carries some Motorcraft filters, they don't carry the one for LSV8.

I have not had the car long enough to change plugs yet, but past experience is that Champions and AC work well. I have had rust problems with Autolite. I have heard that Bosch Platinums don't hold up and the ones I used on my last car didn't do as well as the price would seem to indicate.

I like Purolator Air Filters, but haven't needed to change yet on the LS so no opinion there.

When you shop for things like oil filters and air filters, take a look at the brand name part number. Look at the store brand and see if they have a part number that is essentially the same. A lot of times the filter will be exactly the same. My experience with GI Joes house brand in the NW(I recently moved to SoCal), is that their Powerflo filters are made by Purolator and packed in a plain box. They cost $1 to $2 less. One guy has cut the house brands open and verified that the Powerflo is the same as Purolator.

Note that Purolator does not necessarily have the anti drainback valve even though they used make to and maybe still do make the Motorcraft filter for Ford and do include the valve. In my mind the antidrain back valve is a minor issue IF the filter sits so that the oil flows down away from the motor instead of up when it is off. The purpose of the valve is to prevent dirty oil from sneaking back into the engine when it is off and also keeps the cold engine clatter noise down.

When buying parts and lubricants etc, look to see if it meets the Ford spec which can be found in the manual. Also sticking with name brands is a good idea unless you know who makes house brands. You won't go wrong with Motorcraft, but you have to realize, most Motorcraft parts are made for Ford by someone else, find out who that is if you want the same part for less money or easier to find.

Just my opinion,

Jim Henderson
 

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