No such thing as a 'moderate' Democrat

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...at least in Washington.

All 60 Democrats voted for Obamacare.

Cash for cloture worked.

Say goodbye to freedom.

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60 senators, all Democrat, just demonstrated their contempt for the Constitution; that they don't see it as a limitation of their authority...

The disposing of generations of senate rules and decorum are secondary to that. The Democrats have shown that they view themselves as above the law; that the rule of law doesn't apply to them. They can laugh at the Constitution and spit in the face of every American by using taxpayer money as bribe money to buy votes for their illegal and immoral agenda.
 
When the government shows contempt for the law, why should citizens show respect for the law?
 
Yes. And now some of the Democrats who voted for cloture will likely seek the political cover of "voting against it." Weasels like Webb in Virginia are likely candidates for such a thing.

Voting for it before voting against it.
 
I have a question for you political majors:

Didn't they just need 51 votes? Why 60?

They have to have 60 votes to "end debate" in a cloture vote; otherwise it can be filibustered, like ford nut pointed out. The senate rules dictate two procedural votes for any bill that entail 60 votes; a vote to open debate of a bill on the senate floor and a "cloture" vote to end debate on the senate floor. The final passage of the bill only needs 51 votes.

Those two procedural votes are chances to kill the bill if it cannot get 60 votes...
 
"I quit when medicine was placed under State control, some years ago," said Dr. Hendricks. "Do you know what it takes to perform a brain operation? Do you know the kind of skill it demands, and the years of passionate, merciless, excruciating devotion that go to acquire that skill? That was what I would not place at the disposal of men whose sole qualification to rule me was their capacity to spout the fraudulent generalities that got them elected to the privilege of enforcing their wishes at the point of a gun. I would not let them dictate the purpose for which my years of study had been spent, or the conditions of my work, or my choice of patients, or the amount of my reward. I observed that in all the discussions that preceded the enslavement of medicine, men discussed everything - except the desires of the doctors. Men considered only the 'welfare' of the patients, with no thought for those who were to provide it. That a doctor should have any right, desire or choice in the matter was regarded as irrelevant selfishness; his is not to choose, they said, only 'to serve.' That a man who's willing to work under compulsion is too dangerous a brute to entrust with a job in the stockyards - never occurred to those who proposed to help the sick by making life impossible for the healthy. I have often wondered at the smugness with which people assert their right to enslave me, to control my work, to force my will, to violate my conscience, to stifle my mind - yet what is it that they expect to depend on, when they lie on an operating table under my hands? Their moral code has taught them to believe that it is safe to rely on the virtue of their victims. Well, that is the virtue I have withdrawn. Let them discover the kind of doctors that their system will now produce. Let them discover, in their operating rooms and hospital wards, that it is not safe to place their lives in the hands of a man whose life they have throttled. It is not safe, if he is the sort of a man who resents it - and still less safe, if he is the sort who doesn't."

Ayn Rand-Atlas Shrugged
 
Yes. And now some of the Democrats who voted for cloture will likely seek the political cover of "voting against it." Weasels like Webb in Virginia are likely candidates for such a thing.

Voting for it before voting against it.
Don't worry. The 30 million Tea Partiers nationwide will not forget who voted for cloture.
 
They have to have 60 votes to "end debate" in a cloture vote; otherwise it can be filibustered, like ford nut pointed out. The senate rules dictate two procedural votes for any bill that entail 60 votes; a vote to open debate of a bill on the senate floor and a "cloture" vote to end debate on the senate floor. The final passage of the bill only needs 51 votes.

Those two procedural votes are chances to kill the bill if it cannot get 60 votes...

Aha. Thank you.
 

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