Nobody Yelled “Kill Him” About Obama at a McCain or Palin Rally

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Nobody Yelled “Kill Him” About Obama at a McCain or Palin Rally
Filed under: General — Patterico @ 6:54 am

Everyone in the country seems to think someone yelled “Kill him!” at a McCain/Palin rally, about Barack Obama. It’s just not true.

The “Kill him!” phrase was originally reported by the Washingon Post — and it was clearly yelled about William Ayers and not Barack Obama.

I quoted the relevant language in this post:

“And, according to the New York Times, he [referring to Ayers -- P] was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, ‘launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,’” [Palin] continued.

“Boooo!” the crowd repeated.

“Kill him!” proposed one man in the audience.

That is unambiguously a call to kill Ayers, not Obama. As TNR writer Michael Crowley said in a comment to this post of his (h/t L.N. Smithee):

I took “kill him” to mean Ayers–not Obama. It’s just a far, far likelier explanation given the context. That’s still an ugly thing to shout–but on the other hand Ayers probably would have gotten the death penalty had his bombs actually taken a life. If I thought people were actually yelling that about Obama I would feel very differently.

Indeed. [UPDATE: Dana Milbank, who originally reported this, agreed. According to a Politico blog entry: "Milbank said that his impression was that the man meant Ayers, not Obama." Thanks to "no one you know."]

And yet outlets across the country are reporting that the man yelled “Kill him!” about Obama. For example, the New York Times reported:

Crowds in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania have repeatedly booed Mr. Obama and yelled “off with his head,” and at a rally in Florida where Ms. Palin appeared without Mr. McCain, The Washington Post reported that a man yelled out “kill him.”

The implication is clear that “Kill him!” was yelled about Obama. This implication is made explicit in an article from the Associated Press:

The Secret Service confirmed Friday that it had investigated an episode reported in The Washington Post in which someone in Palin’s crowd in Clearwater, Fla., shouted “kill him,” on Monday, meaning Obama. There was “no indication that there was anything directed at Obama,” Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren told AP. “We looked into it because we always operate in an atmosphere of an abundance of caution.”

Like many AP articles, this article has been reprinted in numerous publications, leading to the widespread myth that someone yelled “Kill him!” about Obama.

Incidentally, the stories are also reporting that someone yelled “Off with his head!” in reference to Obama. I’m not sure why I should believe them, since they’re lying about the “Kill him!” phrase. But let’s accept that as true for the sake of argument, and put this single isolated incident of a yelled threat to Obama in context. I have an isolated incident of Obama supporters threatening the life of someone on the McCain ticket, too. Obama supporters yelled Let’s stone her, old school!” outside a Palin rally, about Sarah Palin.

Oh, the ugliness of the left!

Ah, you say, but there has been widespread ugliness on the right, going beyond a single random call for violence against Obama. We’ve seen people calling Obama an “Arab” (not really an insult, but never mind that) or a “terrorist” or a “liar.” And you guys on the left don’t do ugly stuff like that, right?

Wrong.


We have the plethora of insults and booing of McCain at Obama rallies, including screaming that he is a “liar”; the ugly and profane T-shirts about Sarah Palin; and much more nasty and violent behavior from the left.

That’s the point I was making in my post yesterday, in which I wrote a story about the ugliness of the left in the same style as the media has been writing stories about the ugliness of the right.

We on the right have our random fringe lunatics, and so do you on the left. Stop pretending you’re better.

There’s only one difference between your fringe lunatics and ours: the media reports about ours.
 
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At this rally, McCain didn't even mention Ayers' name before someone yelled "Kill Him", in fact, the rant was in direct response to the question posed by McCain, "Who is the real Barack Obama?"

http://www.vidzking.com/Tags/Shouts-Kill-Him-McCain-rally

*owned*

Show me a video of anyone yelling "kill him" / "kill her" at any Obama/Bidin rally.
I listened to that video half a dozen times and I didn't hear "kill him" once.

Nice try, loser.
 
Not enough people care about the Ayers connection
for it to make any difference.
People aren't concerned with pet issues when they're losing their jobs and watching their retirement funds shrink.
Obama has been the fortunate candidate all along
and the current economic circumstances just add to that.
It seems it will take nothing short of a miracle for McCain to win.
 
:bsflag:

At this rally, McCain didn't even mention Ayers' name before someone yelled "Kill Him", in fact, the rant was in direct response to the question posed by McCain, "Who is the real Barack Obama?"

http://www.vidzking.com/Tags/Shouts-Kill-Him-McCain-rally

*owned*

Show me a video of anyone yelling "kill him" / "kill her" at any Obama/Bidin rally.

Who gives a ratts ass!!! There are all kinds of nuts out there, some saying the same thing about Bush. This is strictly the libs playing the racial card. I'm sick of that crap! If someone said that about McCain, or a white man, we wouldn't hear two words about it. Next.........
 
And then there's this:

JAMES CARVILLE: Now, let me be clear here. If Obama goes in this race with a five-point lead and loses this election, the consequences are — oh, man. I mean I don’t think that’s going to happen, but I think David — it’s a point to bring up, but you stop and contemplate this country if Obama goes in and he has a consistent five-point lead and loses the election, it would be very, very, very traumatic out there.
What does he mean, traumatic? Is he saying he thinks there should be riots?
 
And then there's this:


What does he mean, traumatic? Is he saying he thinks there should be riots?

I can believe that.....we're screwed if either man wins. If Obama wins, we get socialism at its best....you and I get to work for those who won't. You know, "spread the wealth around, it's good for everyone". If McCain wins, there will be riots in the streets all over this country not unlike those of the LA riots. Those Obama boyz are calculating and box stuffing is their specialty.
 
I listened to that video half a dozen times and I didn't hear "kill him" once.

Why am I not surprized you have a hearing impediment when you keep your head up your "you know what"?

Even McCain's expression on his face when it was shouted acknowledges the offensive call for hate.
 
At 00:13, it does sound like someone says "kill him"; it isn't very clear though, it could be something else.
 
Gee, why not? Its no different than "you guys" wishing a civil war would break-out if Obama wins.
It takes a very dense person to fail to recognize a tu quoque when he sees one, and thinks he is initiating the tu quoque. Congratulations, Johnny, you're dumber than even I thought.
 
It would seem that the Ayers accusations have backfired.
Most regular people don't know or care about some guy from the 60's who's now a prof.
McCain has been hoisted on his own petard here.
If he hadn't been harping on Ayers no one would have yelled "Kill Him"
 
Posted: October 15
Updated: Today at 10:14 AM
Secret Service says "Kill him" allegation unfounded

By Andrew M. Seder aseder@timesleader.com
Staff Writer

SCRANTON – The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled “kill him” when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded.

The Scranton Times-Tribune first reported the alleged incident on its Web site Tuesday and then again in its print edition Wednesday. The first story, written by reporter David Singleton, appeared with allegations that while congressional candidate Chris Hackett was addressing the crowd and mentioned Obama’s name a man in the audience shouted “kill him."

News organizations including ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported the claim, with most attributing the allegations to the Times-Tribune story.

Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.

“I was baffled,” he said after reading the report in Wednesday’s Times-Tribune.

He said the agency conducted an investigation Wednesday, after seeing the story, and could not find one person to corroborate the allegation other than Singleton.

Slavoski said more than 20 non-security agents were interviewed Wednesday, from news media to ordinary citizens in attendance at the rally for the Republican vice presidential candidate held at the Riverfront Sports Complex. He said Singleton was the only one to say he heard someone yell “kill him.”

“We have yet to find someone to back up the story,” Slavoski said. “We had people all over and we have yet to find anyone who said they heard it.”

Hackett said he did not hear the remark.

Slavoski said Singleton was interviewed Wednesday and stood by his story but couldn’t give a description of the man because he didn’t see him he only heard him.

When contacted Wednesday afternoon, Singleton referred questions to Times-Tribune Metro Editor Jeff Sonderman. Sonderman said, “We stand by the story. The facts reported are true and that’s really all there is.”

Slavoski said the agents take such threats or comments seriously and immediately opened an investigation but after due diligence “as far as we’re concerned it’s closed unless someone comes forward.” He urged anyone with knowledge of the alleged incident to call him at 346-5781. “We’ll run at all leads,” he said
 

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