Oh, those w[h]acky TSA agents in Denver

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Body Scanner Operator Caught Masturbating at Colorado Airport

August 4th, 2010
by Hugh Muzzbe

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Not only do the new airport body scanners take risque pictures but according to the U.S. Marshals Service, the images in their thousands are being saved on hard disks.​
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DENVER - USA - A full body scanner operator was caught masturbating during a scanning session by airport staff late Tuesday.


Airport officials at Denver International airport were on high alert yesterday when a full body scanner operator was caught masturbating in his booth as a team of High School netball players went through the scanner.

"The young ladies were going through the scanner one by one, and every time one went through, this guys face was getting redder and redder. His hand was moving and then he started sweating. He was then seen doing his 'O' face. That's when the security dragged him out of his booth and cuffed him. He had his pants round his ankles and everybody was really disgusted," Jeb Rather, a passenger on a flight to New York told CBS news.

The controversial scanners display every minute detail of a person's body and have been called intrusive by privacy campaigners. Body scanners penetrate clothing to provide a highly detailed image so accurate that critics have likened it to a virtual porn shoot. Technologies vary, with millimeter wave systems capturing highly detailed pictures of genitals, and backscatter X-ray machines able to show precise anatomical detail. The U.S. government likes the idea because body scanners can detect concealed weapons better than traditional magnetometers.

"What do you want to do, get blown up by a goddamn Arab at 30,000 feet or we get to see your private parts? It's up to you, the ball's in your park," head of the TSA's scanning department, Rodney Schroeder, told CNN.

[Stay classy, fearmonger!]
 
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This is absurd.

Ive never seen so much hate torwards people who have families to support and just want to do their job and go home. Being labeled as a "pedo" or a goon or all kinds of names.

How about you come and do the job for a month and see what its like on the other side. I used to think the same way and hated TSA. But after i got in i realized why things are the way they are.

So how about this...we stand TSA down at every airport and just let people walk from the ticket counter to the gate without any screening of bags or passengers. And then when another plane gets hijacked or blown to pieces will people finally shutup?

Is that what you want??
 
Personally, I'd be fine with that. But, that's just me.

However, most people wouldn't be fine with it, of course.

Now, if the TSA was more proactive than reactive, we wouldn't even have body scanners. You ever been grilled by Israeli airport security? It's fun. And I mean "fun" in a "you better not be kidding around" kind'a fun. But I've never been groped... though, this one interrogator... Oh, she could have groped me all day long if she wanted... errr.. Yeah. Sorry.
 
Israel does have an amazing security.

But they handle nowhere near the amount of passengers that we do in the states. Do you really know just how many passengers fly??

Atlanta airport alone handled over 1 million passengers last year. We simply do not have the means to interrogate passengers. Nobody would ever get anywhere on time.
 
Come now...

It's all about logistics. You put enough people on a logistical issue and it proceeds smoothly.

The israelis spend very little time profiling each passenger and only doing more in-depth interviews on suspect ones. It's not like they sit each passenger down for 3 hours and grill him or her.
 
Oh sure.

Lets racial profile. Enrage a bunch of Americans for being singled out...good idea.
 
BlackLS06 said:
Oh sure.
Lets racial profile. Enrage a bunch of Americans for being singled out...good idea.
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...in contrast, we can just institute policy that violates everybody's privacy? If we want to be serious about security, we can't allow ourselves to be bullied by radical groups who use political correctness as a weapon against us.

It's a mistake to make this an issue of "the public vs. the TSA agents."
It's not about you guys being told to enforce bad policy. The beef is against the higher ups at Homeland Security and their incredibly questionable judgment.

And on that note, you shouldn't blindly defend all the policy decisions passed on to you. You know full well that the system in place is neither the most efficient or effective.

With all of this said, how do you feel about unionizing the TSA and making another giant, government employee union? It certainly does seem like the feds through you guys to the wolves right before that vote. I'm sure that was purely coincidence. :rolleyes:

As for the original post, that story went viral, unfortunately people don't realize that the DailySquib is a low-rent version of The Onion, and since the story contained enough truth, people accepted it as true. The world is upside down, the story seams completely plausible.
 
BlackLS06 said:
Oh sure.

Lets racial profile. Enrage a bunch of Americans for being singled out...good idea.
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There's the dumba** 'false choice' again.

You'd rather the government forcibly take away our 4th Amendment rights over political correctness?

Good idea. :rolleyes:

BTW, my mistake for posting this story, but it is instructive that many people believe it.
 
Administrative search is not a violation of the 4th amendment.

And i defend it because i know the majority of what we do is right and for the traveling
publics own good. And unfortunately we are the ones targeted, not the higher ups.

We are the ones who get all the crap day in and day out. Its may fault you have to be patted down.
 
BlackLS06 said:
Administrative search is not a violation of the 4th amendment.
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Security screening doesnt have to bea violation of the 4th amendment,
however the policies being enacted and imposed by the federal government now arguably are.

And i defend it because i know the majority of what we do is right and for the traveling publics own good. And unfortunately we are the ones targeted, not the higher ups.
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Two separate points there.
Yes, the TSA screeners are the people that have to deal with the frustration of the public. That is unfortunate and it's wrong for the public to take out that hostility towards TSA employees who are polite and professional.

But when you say it's "for their own good," is the implication that any badly designed security system is better than none? Because that's all it means.

It is not necessary to be so invasive and inefficient.
It's not necessary to invade the privacy and modesty of EVERY traveler.
And it's not necessary to subject people to the radioactive blasts associated some of the screeners.

Couple that with the known lies that the public is being fed regarding that equipment, like the public statement that the backscatter scanners can neither save or send the images. Or the level of detail that they are capable of filming.

We are the ones who get all the crap day in and day out. Its may fault you have to be patted down.
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Again, you're making a mistake in personalizing this discussion.
This isn't an general indictment of the TSA personnel doing the screenings, the criticism is directed at Homeland Security. You didn't make the policy. You didn't decide to intensify things just before the busiest travel season of the year, a period where everyone and the systems would already be stressed enough. Those decisions were made much higher up.

To go back to an earlier point, what've you heard about the TSA unionizing?
It certainly seems like you've been deliberately been thrown to the wolves and left to fend for yourself. In such a situation, a lot of people would be much more open to the idea of unionizing for protection and representation. And... isn't there talk of a vote on that very issue in the coming weeks? What a coincidence!
 
I have to agree with the israeli point of view, target the suspect "passengers" and question from there.

This country has become full of people scared to do the right thing over fear of offending someone else. IMHO, I would rather see the "security" measures removed entirely.

In a way the terrorists have won because of it. I would rather see the U.S. population show them that we aren't scared.

I know this won't happen because of the mindset our pussified countrymen have.
 
BlackLS06 said:
Administrative search is not a violation of the 4th amendment.

And i defend it because i know the majority of what we do is right and for the traveling
publics own good. And unfortunately we are the ones targeted, not the higher ups.

We are the ones who get all the crap day in and day out. Its may fault you have to be patted down.
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For the public's "own good"? Gee, you sound like a ruling class nanny stater.

Forget the fact that the TSA has failed to prove that the scans and the patdowns are even preventing terrorists.

If you don't like it, just quit. Nobody's making you do that sh!tty job where you violate people's rights minute by minute. It's a choice.

See how the 'false choice' works?:rolleyes:
 
Something that needs to be remember, "profiling" does not mean "racial profiling".

You can (and should) profile by behavior.

But even if you target Muslim's, you are not targeting race but culture.

before people get too indignant it might be a good idea to remember those distinctions.
 
Airport "Security"?
by Thomas Sowell

No country has better airport security than Israel-- and no country needs it more, since Israel is the most hated target of Islamic extremist terrorists. Yet, somehow, Israeli airport security people don't have to strip passengers naked electronically or have strangers feeling their private parts.

Does anyone seriously believe that we have better airport security than Israel? Is our security record better than theirs?

"Security" may be the excuse being offered for the outrageous things being done to American air travelers, but the heavy-handed arrogance and contempt for ordinary people that is the hallmark of this administration in other areas is all too painfully apparent in these new and invasive airport procedures.

Can you remember a time when a Cabinet member in a free America boasted of having his "foot on the neck" of some business or when the President of the United States threatened on television to put his foot on another part of some citizens' anatomy?

Yet this and more has happened in the current administration, which is not yet two years old. One Cabinet member warned that there would be "zero tolerance" for "misinformation" when an insurance company said the obvious, that the mandates of ObamaCare would raise costs and therefore raise premiums. Zero tolerance for exercising the First Amendment right of free speech?

More than two centuries ago, Edmund Burke warned about the dangers of new people with new power. This administration, only halfway through its term, has demonstrated that in many ways.

What other administration has had an Attorney General call the American People "cowards"? And refuse to call terrorists Islamic? What other administration has had a Secretary of Homeland Security warn law enforcement officials across the country of security threats from people who are anti-abortion, for federalism or are returning military veterans?

If anything good comes out of the airport "security" outrages, it may be in opening the eyes of more people to the utter contempt that this administration has for the American people.

Those who made excuses for all of candidate Barack Obama's long years of alliances with people who expressed their contempt for this country, and when as president he appointed people with a record of antipathy to American interests and values, may finally get it when they feel some stranger's hand in their crotch.

As for the excuse of "security," this is one of the least security-minded administrations we have had. When hundreds of illegal immigrants from terrorist-sponsoring countries were captured crossing the border from Mexico-- and then released on their own recognizance within the United States, that tells you all you need to know about this administration's concern for security.

When captured terrorists who are not covered by either the Geneva Convention or the Constitution of the United States are nevertheless put on trial in American civilian courts by the Obama Justice Department, that too tells you all you need to know about how concerned they are about national security.

The rules of criminal justice in American courts were not designed for trying terrorists. For one thing, revealing the evidence against them can reveal how our intelligence services got wind of them in the first place, and thereby endanger the lives of people who helped us nab them.

Not a lot of people in other countries, or perhaps even in this country, are going to help us stop terrorists if their role is revealed and their families are exposed to revenge by the terrorists' bloodthirsty comrades.

What do the Israeli airport security people do that American airport security do not do? They profile. They question some individuals for more than half an hour, open up all their luggage and spread the contents on the counter-- and they let others go through with scarcely a word. And it works.

Meanwhile, this administration is so hung up on political correctness that they have turned "profiling" into a bugaboo. They would rather have electronic scanners look under the clothes of nuns than to detain a Jihadist imam for some questioning.

Will America be undermined from within by an administration obsessed with political correctness and intoxicated with the adolescent thrill of exercising its new-found powers? Stay tuned.
 
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