I had my '02 V6 for a year now and it has 87k miles so i decided on an upgrade. I purchased a 2005 V8 Ultimate. I am not sure what all makes an "ultimate" but the salesman sure mentioned it like 100 times. But its Black on Black, all options but Nav. I feel as though i need to speak that so far the difference in driving between the V6 and V8 hasnt really been much. Yes yes...its got more power but its not like whoaaaaaa. But i am happy nontheless. One HUGE issue that is annoying me is the rearview mirror bounces up and down alot. Its like i have a dozen 12's firing in the trunk. I'll get some pictures tonight.