i have a 01 lincoln ls no motor mods done or anything.. looking to give it some good sound...was lookin online around alot of sites and looks like alot of people do the "muffler delete" i was thinking about trying it out but i didnt know how it would sound.. anybody knoww if it sounds decent??? THANKS
Question on lincoln ls exhaustt? Muffler delete??
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JoshMcMadMac
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Leave the mufflers on there. Start with a full intake, which will open up the exhaust note. If that is not sufficient, you can either delete the resonators, swap the mufflers, or get a full exhaust. The Magnaflow exhaust kit might do the trick.
Mechanicboy
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What? I've had several intake on several cars and none of them have ever changed the sound of the exhaust.
The gen1 LS exhaust is known to be restrictive, opening it up won't hurt, I personally like muffler deletes on most cars. if all you want is sound then it sounds like a good idea, but if you want performance then a full cat-back is definitly the way to go.
My v6 had the resonators deleted when I bought it(couldn't tell from the sound because it was still silent) and when I went to a full magnaflow cat-back I noticed a difference in power, I like the sound too.
JoshMcMadMac
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That is interesting...I have never experienced and intake that did not have an impact on exhaust sound. I cannot speak specifically to the Gen1, but the intake made quite an "improvement" in the sound and volume of the exhaust.
FASTLLS
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I had the mufflers deleted but the res left on some time ago before I went to the Bassani/Aero setup.. Lots of drone at highway speed.. Really Mustangish and popped a lot!
Running open exhaust turns your gas mileage to crap also..
Running open exhaust turns your gas mileage to crap also..
00Linc'LSv8
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I have no mufflers, car sounds great.... a little loud on a cold start and idle, but once it warms up a little, it sounds great. I get 16 MPG too city/highway
Mechanicboy
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These are cars that I've put intake on(not all mine):
2006 Ford Fusion i4, 2003 eclipse v6, 2001 F-150 5.4, 2003 Sebring i4, 2007 mustang v6, none of them have changed the sound of the exhaust in the slightest that i could hear. They did significantly change the growl of the intake though.
I've run open exhaust(aka everything removed after the cat) on the above vehicles(minus the fusion) and only saw decreases in fuel ecomomy on the first tank because of foolish driving. The Eclipse had a drone with the top up(convertable) and the sebring had terrible drone at almost any speed. On the sebring we cut the muffler off leaving two resonators and it sounds great like that. The only one of these vehicles that would pop on decel was the mustang and only when the revs were high when you took your foot out of the throttle. These vehicles all had the cats still installed and intake so that would provide backpressure.
These are my experiences. Also, my LS came with the KKM intake already install and the resonators deleted, but you wouldn't have known below 4k RPM because it was so quiet and didn't drone at all. In fack I do experience some drone now that i've install the magnaflow exhaust at around 60MPH, 5 MPH below or above and it's gone.
mlara1129
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from experience ive noticed a change in the exhaust.
here are a couple of vids from my Jetta, idk if youll be able to tell from the vids tho:
without CAI:
YouTube - VW Jetta VR6 w/ Magnaflow Catback Exhaust
with:
YouTube - MK4 VW Jetta 24v VR6
here are a couple of vids from my Jetta, idk if youll be able to tell from the vids tho:
without CAI:
YouTube - VW Jetta VR6 w/ Magnaflow Catback Exhaust
with:
YouTube - MK4 VW Jetta 24v VR6
I would agree....the actual exhaust sound doesn't change but during wide open throttle you can hear a bit of a growl.
mufflers give the car a good sound at idle though and a mean sound during wide open throttle.
FASTLLS
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Missing Linc'
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Putting an intake on will impact the exhaust, its actually common sense, more air in, more to go out.
JoshMcMadMac
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Sure, and here are the ones I have put intakes on (all mine):
1992 Lincoln Mark VII 5.0L, 2000 Mercury Cougar V6, 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP, 2002 Mercury Mountaineer 4.6L, 2005 Lincoln LS 3.9L, 2009 Saturn Sky Redline. All of them had varying degrees of effect on exhaust tone. I am not sure why you are pushing the point; we are offering varying experiences. The engine is a pump, so the impact of more air in should have an impact on air out, resulting in more noise. Intake "growl" is certainly more prominent as well.
The LS was by far the largest change I have encountered by just changing the intake, most likely due to the heavy baffling in the stock intake. I suggest forming your opinion from actually doing it.
Mechanicboy
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mlara1129, it sound like you took that first video soon after you put the exhaust on and the second video was taken after the muffler had "broke in" which magnaflows do. The camera is closer in the second video which will affect the sound of the recording. What I did notice is that in both the first and second video then the suction sound that intake usually make, you can hear the exact same sound in both videos.
If you read my whole post you'd see that I said the said that.
I have, aren't you paying attention?
I think you're not differentiating the difference between the intake sound change and that of the exhaust.
If you read my whole post you'd see that I said the said that.
I have, aren't you paying attention?
I think you're not differentiating the difference between the intake sound change and that of the exhaust.
FASTLLS
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Depends what your going after!? Do you want it to sound like a Mustang? Does that matter to you?
I think it sounds good, but I see my ls more on the sport side than the luxury now, so I love my bassani set up, not too loud, nice deep rumble, loud when you want it to be. If you delete only mufflers and keep the resonators, it will loud a lot louder and have a deep rumble. I like missing linc's set up, slp resonators, x pipe, no mufflers. Dont delete resonators and keep stock mufflers though, it sounds like crap.
Check out you tube, a lot of video's on exhaust there.
Also, check out exhaust on mustang, since they have so many, you can compare how each set up compares to each other, IT IS NOT TO BE COMPARED TO HOW AN LS WILL SOUND, just how each set up changes the sound of the exhaust to give you an idea.
Check out you tube, a lot of video's on exhaust there.
Also, check out exhaust on mustang, since they have so many, you can compare how each set up compares to each other, IT IS NOT TO BE COMPARED TO HOW AN LS WILL SOUND, just how each set up changes the sound of the exhaust to give you an idea.
Mechanicboy
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Is your LS a v8 or v6? The good news with a muffler delete is that it's cheap(or free if you know the right friend) to put back.
its a v-8...and yes i wouldnt mind the mustang sound...as long as it doesnt sound like one of them guys you see driving by you in a lifted muddy truck that did there own
no what im saying
Then you'll like this.
SLP resosnators instead of stock, but no muffler's also.
Bored, idle and short rev, SLP LS - Car Videos on StreetFire
Luxury Sport - Car Videos on StreetFire
Stock resonators
YouTube - Lincoln LS- Muffler Delete
JoshMcMadMac
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Apparently paying more attention than you are:
Take a stock LS, then swap in an intake, then form your opinion. It makes for a more prominent exhaust tone. It surprised me at how much of a difference it made when I did it.
That is an opinion question...and in my opinion, running without mufflers sounds like crap.
You can be more than obnoxiously loud without having to rely on displacement. Drop the exhaust off of the LS and it will make more noise than most anyone would want to tolerate.
FASTLLS
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Agreed.. I had to drive from one shop to another dumping out the cats and it was cool for the 2 minutes I had to do it but I would never do my exhaust that way.. Way too loud! Soo loud it shook the mirror!
Agreed.. I had to drive from one shop to another dumping out the cats and it was cool for the 2 minutes I had to do it but I would never do my exhaust that way.. Way too loud! Soo loud it shook the mirror!
Mechanicboy
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That i can agree with you on because I started my LS with the catback off while I was putting the magnaflow on and it was the loudest Ive heard other than straight headers. It sounded like a Porsche track car!
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