MrScalia
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what else is thier to be said!
Saddam Hussein sentenced to hang
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JohnnyBz00LS
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Now, was that worth nearly 3000 (and still counting) deaths of US soldiers?
BuSh finally avenged his father, and all it cost him was 3000 US soldier's lives.
Now, was that worth nearly 3000 (and still counting) deaths of US soldiers?
BuSh finally avenged his father, and all it cost him was 3000 US soldier's lives.
fossten
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JohnnyBz00LS said:
Go ask twenty million Iraqis. As a matter of fact, go ask 140,000 soldiers in Iraq. I bet most of them would feel that it was worth it.
I can't tell which is more powerful, your ignorance or your hate.
fossten
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fossten said:
Soldiers in Iraq Say Pullout Would Have Devastating Results
By Josh White
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, November 6, 2006; Page A13
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/05/AR2006110500770.html
FORWARD OPERATING BASE SYKES, Iraq, Nov. 5 -- For the U.S. troops fighting in Iraq, the war is alternately violent and hopeful, sometimes very hot and sometimes very cold. It is dusty and muddy, calm and chaotic, deafeningly loud and eerily quiet.
The one thing the war is not, however, is finished, dozens of soldiers across the country said in interviews. And leaving Iraq now would have devastating consequences, they said.
Capt. Mike Lingenfelter of Panhandle, Tex., says it would be "an extreme betrayal" for U.S. troops to leave Iraq now. (By Josh White -- The Washington Post)
With a potentially historic U.S. midterm election on Tuesday and the war in Iraq a major issue at the polls, many soldiers said the United States should not abandon its effort here. Such a move, enlisted soldiers and officers said, would set Iraq on a path to civil war, give new life to the insurgency and create the possibility of a failed state after nearly four years of fighting to implant democracy.
"Take us out of that vacuum -- and it's on the edge now -- and boom, it would become a free-for-all," said Lt. Col. Mark Suich, who commands the 1st Squadron, 89th Cavalry Regiment just south of Baghdad. "It would be a raw contention for power. That would be the bloodiest piece of this war."
The soldiers declined to discuss the political jousting back home, but they expressed support for the Bush administration's approach to the war, which they described as sticking with a tumultuous situation to give Iraq a chance to stand on its own.
Leading Democrats have argued for a timeline to bring U.S. troops home, because obvious progress has been elusive, especially in Baghdad, and even some Republican lawmakers have recently called for a change in strategy. But soldiers criticized the idea of a precipitate withdrawal, largely because they believe their hard work would go for naught.
Capt. Jim Modlin, 26, of Oceanport, N.J., said he thought the situation in Iraq had improved between his deployment in 2003 and his return this year as a liaison officer to Iraqi security forces with the 3rd Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, based here on FOB Sykes outside Tall Afar. Modlin described himself as more liberal than conservative and said he had already cast his absentee ballot in Texas. He said he believed that U.S. elected officials would lead the military in the right direction, regardless of what happens Tuesday.
"Pulling out now would be as bad or worse than going forward with no changes," Modlin said. "Sectarian violence would be rampant, democracy would cease to exist, and the rule of law would be decimated. It's not 'stay the course,' and it's not 'cut and run' or other political catchphrases. There are people's lives here. There are so many different dynamics that go on here that a simple solution just isn't possible."
Soldiers and officers had difficulty conveying what victory in Iraq would look like or exactly how to achieve it. In some ways, victory is a moving target, they said, one that relies heavily on the Iraqi people gaining trust in the Iraqi security forces and the ability of the Iraqi government to support essential services. In northern Iraq, officials said they expect to hand over major parts of the country to Iraqi forces within the next five months, but most agree that Baghdad will be far behind.
Even if top commanders meet their goal of transferring authority to the Iraqi army within the next 18 months, a U.S. presence long after that is likely, several officers said.
"This is a worthwhile endeavor," said Maj. Gen. Benjamin Mixon, commander of Multinational Division North and the 25th Infantry Division. "Nothing that is worthwhile is usually easy, and we need to give this more time for it to all come together. We all want to come home, but we have a significant investment here, and we need to give the Iraqi army and the Iraqi people a chance to succeed."
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TheDude
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And the timing couldn't have been better... Seriously now, did anyone ever think he was going to go free?
fossten
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95DevilleNS said:
He did; still does.
BLACK SUNSHINE 95LSC
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I Think The Point Of Sadamm On A Lincoln Forum Site Is More Political Than Automotive, But Reguardless Bush Is An Idiot And We Went About It The Wrong Way Ticking Off The International Community Where Most Countries Think We Are Aggogant And Do What We Please, Now There Are More Countries That Want To Harm Us Than When Sadamm Was In There To Begin With.
I Served 4 Years In Army As A Ranger And Airassualt, And I Have So Much Respect For Our Men And Women Dying For Our Country Because Some Moron Idiot In Office Decides To Be Reckless After The Capture Of One Man, One Man, There Are Thousands To Take His Place Now As More Hate Us Than Ever,
Its Ok, I Will Be Laughing Tomorrow Election Day When All The Republicans Lose And Democrats Can Finally Get This Country Back To Respectability Again, Only 2 More Years Of Idiot Bush Unless Someone Busts A Cap In His Hiney..
Glad I Could Unload My Political Opinion On A Lincoln Caddilac Forum..
Peace
I Served 4 Years In Army As A Ranger And Airassualt, And I Have So Much Respect For Our Men And Women Dying For Our Country Because Some Moron Idiot In Office Decides To Be Reckless After The Capture Of One Man, One Man, There Are Thousands To Take His Place Now As More Hate Us Than Ever,
Its Ok, I Will Be Laughing Tomorrow Election Day When All The Republicans Lose And Democrats Can Finally Get This Country Back To Respectability Again, Only 2 More Years Of Idiot Bush Unless Someone Busts A Cap In His Hiney..
Glad I Could Unload My Political Opinion On A Lincoln Caddilac Forum..
Peace
fossten
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BLACK SUNSHINE 95LSC said:
As amateurish and inaccurate as your rant is, you raise a good point which the liberals cannot ignore. If you say that Saddam is only ONE MAN, then you would have to acknowledge that bin Laden is only ONE MAN as well. So all the rhetoric about how we haven't captured him yet is meaningless.
JohnnyBz00LS
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fossten said:
In case you didn't notice, Osama Bin Ladin was THE MAN who was responsible for 9/11, Saddam was NOT. A BIG GAPING DIFFERENCE that still escapes your comprehension. But then of course I shouldn't expect so much of a person who still thinks Saddam was responsible for 9/11 and was within a year of having a nuke and possessed WMDs.
fossten said:
Can't you even stay on topic?? Always changing the subject when you get backed into a corner. Just like Percy Wetmore pissing his pants when the convict gets the upper hand.
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fossten
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JohnnyBz00LS said:
Actually, bin Laden wasn't the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks. It was Khalid Shaikh Mohammed. Or didn't you hear? And don't misquote me. I never said Saddam was behind the 9/11 attacks. That's a stupid straw man you just erected (no Clinton pun intended) that I've now exposed (no Clinton pun intended).
As far as somebody pissing their pants, I can only imagine you on Judgment Day.
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JohnnyBz00LS
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Oh Percy please...........
Don't misquote ME, I never said OBL was the "mastermind", that's a stupid straw man you limped (pun intended) out of the closet that I've now torched (pun intended). You know as well as I do that Bin Ladin was responsible (<the word I did use) for 9/11 by providing the financing for it. To pretend now otherwise is to expose yourself as a disingenuous LIAR.
You still contend that Saddam was connected to 9/11 via his (non-existant) ties w/ Al-Quaida. Your backpeddaling on this isn't working, Percy.
fossten said:
Don't misquote ME, I never said OBL was the "mastermind", that's a stupid straw man you limped (pun intended) out of the closet that I've now torched (pun intended). You know as well as I do that Bin Ladin was responsible (<the word I did use) for 9/11 by providing the financing for it. To pretend now otherwise is to expose yourself as a disingenuous LIAR.
You still contend that Saddam was connected to 9/11 via his (non-existant) ties w/ Al-Quaida. Your backpeddaling on this isn't working, Percy.
TheDude
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fossten said:
You crack me up sometimes Fossten...fossten
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JohnnyBz00LS said:
Talk about backpedaling. First you say that I claimed Saddam was "responsible" for 9/11 and now you say I claim Saddam was merely "connected" to Al Qaeda, the latter of which has a mountain of evidence. I never claimed the former, and I can prove the latter. You, sir, are a pathetic waffler.