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Well I decided to turn the key after making the engine pretty and am pretty sure I've lost a chain or something she turning over funny now. Initially it turned over fine, fired a second and died. now she turns over fast and is definately not right. Do these things loose there chains easy?

Do they jump, break or have pins that break away?

Looks like the covers come back off.
 
Can't say I've ever heard of them loosing their time. Not common at all here in the MI area for them to jump/break...

Sorry to hear that man...
 
Before you start tearing stuff apart, have you checked to make sure the plug wires are going to the right places?
 
1993_M75 said:
Before you start tearing stuff apart, have you checked to make sure the plug wires are going to the right places?
First thing I checked. They're right. Well I haven't pulled the drivers side cover off yet, but the wires are numbered so unless I mixed up which hole they went in, they're right.
I went off my old wires and double checked with the stock coil packs which are labeled.

Thing is if you heard this thing crank, you hesitate to keep cranking it. I turned it over initially, probably cranked for 5 secs, fired and stumbled, the next time I turned the key it was like wtf. Sounded like the starter was screwed up. I confirmed the motor carnking by just getting out and looking at the crank position and turning it over a crank. It actually sounds like just the crank was spinning. I've turned it over only twice more, the one time it kinda ran and sounded like it was running on about 3 and made sh1t awful noises.

I pulled the pass cam cover and all looks normal. Cylinder 1,3&4 look fuel soaked like they weren't firing.

The only good thing is after just cleaning everything and getting it together, it all comes apart so easy. Only took about 15-20mins to pull the pass cover.

Best thing I ever did is stop using this thing as a daily driver, makes it less frustrating.
 
Pulled the other cam cover and plugs and cranked her like that. All the cams seem to be operating normally and the oil pressure built up fine. Probably dried it some too. Plugs were all pretty much fual soaked so I'm hoping it just didn't fire right away and flooded. The odd starter noise may be just the starter itself, guess I won't know till I try it again.
 
Well I decided to do a compression test to see if some thing is out of time.

Cylinder #2 dead.

Sad thing is I don't know how, the car ran great when it shot #6 which is why I started this adventure. I'm confident I did the time-serts right, they went smooth and I'm positive I never had any valve or piston contact with the tools.

The compression readings were inconsistent across the board, with the highest at 165 and the lowest barely 100. So something is whack or out of time.
 
Sorry man, we were posting at the same damned time. I'll delete my previous post.


You cleaned out all of the chips correct? One other thing. Pull your covers back off and look for broken valve springs. I seriously doubt that tho as it's a 96.

IF it is a blown engine, I have one from a 96 that you can have. No warranties expressed OR implied, but your more than welcome to have it for a rebuilder. It may even still be good.


Mike
 
Post same time...LOL...I was like what?


Used grease, vacuumed the cylinders, I was pretty anal about it, besides it barely turned over enough to cause any damage.

Do these things have something that can break away at the crank? Sure seems like its just off, the readings are so inconsistent.
 
Ohh yeah, I checked for the broken valve springs already, they do look like the behives. Couldn't see a problem, wouldn't it be really obvious.
 
by saying cly 2 is dead do you mean no comp (0 psi) im wondering if maby a ring or a valve is stuck how long has it been down?
 
If you have a cam(s) out of phase, you will get the compression readings you are talking about. It's very possible you had something go wrong there. Time to tear it apart and see what's up. Did you remove the chains? Did you use a tool to hold the tensioners and not remove it? Since I'm not privvy to what you originally did, I'm just flock shooting at ducks here....
 
2001LS8Sport said:
If you have a cam(s) out of phase, you will get the compression readings you are talking about. It's very possible you had something go wrong there. Time to tear it apart and see what's up. Did you remove the chains? Did you use a tool to hold the tensioners and not remove it? Since I'm not privvy to what you originally did, I'm just flock shooting at ducks here....
Yeh I know the compression readings do tend to show its just out abit. Never apart. I had to repair a spark plug hole, decided to do all 8, them did some other stuff in the process. Chains were never off. How much slop should they have? Should the tensioners that that all out.

http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=23746
 

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