"Speaking Truth to Roberts"

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Speaking Truth to Roberts
By Paul Rogat Loeb
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Friday 29 July 2005

From the moment the John Roberts nomination was announced, the media called it a done deal. NPR and the New York Times gushed over his humility, humor, and congeniality. With Roberts's belief system barely mentioned, you'd think Bush had just nominated Mister Rogers.

In the wake of this media love fest, I keep encountering people who oppose everything Roberts has stood for, but see no use in trying to stop what seems his inevitable confirmation. But we can make a powerful impact by raising the discomforting truth that Roberts may be closer to a smiling Antonin Scalia. However the Senators vote - and it's not foreordained - the more we raise key issues and principles, the more they'll echo down the line around future nominations and policies.

Roberts is being hailed as the brilliant Harvard lawyer who gets along with everyone. He's conservative, but reasonable. He doesn't froth at the mouth. He barely barks. Unlike Bush's three most recent Appeals Court appointees, he hasn't led a right wing ideological charge. He's being praised as a nomination Bush should be proud of.

We need to tell a different story, and do our best to get it into the media, the arguments raised by our elected representatives, and the awareness of our fellow citizens. The actual outcome will probably depend on a small group of Republican "moderates," who tend to briefly question Bush's policies and choices, then toe the line on critical votes. But if they really demanded moderate appointments or stood firm against the "nuclear option" power grab that threatens to end the filibuster, Roberts could certainly be defeated. Whatever the final vote, offering a critical perspective gives us the chance to help frame how Americans view this administration and what we can expect from future lifetime appointments to a court that's our final arbiter of rights and governmental power. Settling for an appointment as regressive as Roberts invites Bush to nominate someone still worse for next round. Challenging him draws a line and invites our fellow citizens to stand up in other ways to this immensely destructive presidency.

How has a seemingly nice man like Roberts supported a politics of contempt for the voice of anyone but the wealthy and powerful? In a time when the Bush administration acts as if granted the divine right of kings, it's troubling that Roberts defended Cheney's right to refuse to name the corporate participants in his secret energy policy meeting. He advised Jeb Bush on the 2000 election, and denied being a member of the ultra-conservative Federalist Society, then turned up on the Society's Washington steering committee. He's argued that the Voting Rights Act can only be violated by intentional discrimination, saying laws that incidentally discriminate are okay. Most damning, Roberts just ruled that if this administration wishes to exempt someone from the Geneva Convention and international law, they have the absolute right to do so. The belief that a president can do whatever he chooses links this nomination, the Downing Street Memo and Plamegate in a common matrix of unaccountable power.

Roberts is also disturbingly loyal to dubious corporate interests, or at least to principles that allow these interests to run roughshod over ordinary citizens and communities. He argued that private individuals could not sue the federal government for violations of environmental regulations like the removal of mountaintops by West Virginia mining companies. He supported the rights of developers to ignore the Endangered Species Act. He denied the rights of workers injured over time as part of their jobs, supported criminal contempt fines to force the end of a strike, and helped a major car manufacturer avoid a recall of dangerous seatbelts.

Then there's Roe vs Wade. People of goodwill can disagree about abortion, but overturning that decision would devastate the lives of women forced to bear unwanted children. Roberts has already argued, as Deputy Solicitor General, that "Roe was wrongly decided and should be overruled." Pat Robertson endorsed him as one of his top favored choices. In the words of Tony Perkins of the ultra-conservative Family Research Council, Bush "promised to nominate someone along the lines of a Scalia or a Thomas and that is exactly what he has done."

It's tempting to decide that Roberts is the best we can get, so we should simply accept him, lest we get someone worse. But that traps us in a continuous cycle of lowered expectations, until we accept anyone short of Attila the Hun. I'm not expecting Bush to nominate the next Thurgood Marshall. Even Sandra O'Connor, whom everyone now praises, helped put Bush in office to begin with, in a decision blasted by legal scholars for its contempt for constitutional precedents, including claims of the participating justices to support states rights. Given the Republicans' current power, another O'Connor may be the most we can expect, but we have no obligation to accept a candidate as problematic as Roberts.

Instead of caving to fatalistic acceptance, we need to approach this nomination as an exercise in truth telling. We can talk, to whomever we have access, about what Roberts represents, and what a court in his image would mean for America. We can lobby our Senators to draw the line, knowing that the more they do, the more the media will question. We can hold up a vision of how America could be, while describing how profoundly our heritage of liberty and justice is being attacked. And then we can keep on, whatever the immediate result, so that we will not be faced with another Justice Roberts ten years down the line
 
What's the point Phil? Republicans nominated 7 of the last 9 justices and we struck out on 3 of them. Which explains why we lose 5 to 4 all the time. The bench is going to swing back 5 to 4 in our favor eventually. Not right now. This one is too close to call actually. Rehnquist will be a push. It is the 3rd one that you should save up all your energy for. I hope Bush gets that one too and the Dems filibuster and we pull the nuclear option and blast the United States into the Conservative Future. A future that guarantees every hard working and creative American a chance at the American Dream.

This new 'Ownership Society' will replace the 'Robin Hood Society' of the last 60 years and will demonstrate to the rest of the world that letting one's success be determined by how hard one works; that this process will show rest of the world that people empowered with their own destiny and encouraged to enhance their standard of living, not just for themselves, but for their offspring; is the model to emulate for all nations under God, not just the United States.
 
Manners and Morons

By Molly Ivins, AlterNet. Posted July 29, 2005.

The White House is shielding Roberts' public record, and now he's conveniently 'forgotten' his involvement with the ultra-right-wing Federalist Society.
Sheesh, all I knew about John Roberts was that everyone says he has lovely manners -- and already I was prepared to be against him. Knee-jerk liberal? No, congratulations to the White House, Sen. John Cornyn, Fred Thompson and everyone else involved in "managing" Roberts' confirmation process. Can't these people do anything without being devious about it?

My first reaction to Roberts was: "Sounds like that's about as good as we can get. Quick, affirm him before they nominate Bork, Bolton or Pinochet." A conservative with good manners and no known nutball decisions or statements on his record? Hey, take him. At least he's not (whew!) a member of the Federalist Society.

No such luck. Cornyn, who I would have sworn is not this stupid, apparently signed off on having the nominee "forget" he was a member of the Federalist Society, and Roberts obliged, which is strange considering his reputation for brilliance and a spectacular memory.

Turns out the guy is listed in the society's 1997-98 "Leadership Directory" as a member of its steering committee in Washington. How many steering committees have you been on that you've forgotten about?

The reason that matters is that the Federalist Society is the alpha-primo ultraconservative legal group in the whole country. Since we have only two years worth of Roberts' decisions on the bench (in itself unheard of for nominations to the Supremes), the information about how this society plans to steer the country can be very revealing of his positions.

So Roberts already looks disingenuous at best, and then the White House up and decides it's entirely too risky to let the public in on his record as a government lawyer and refuses to release documents requested.

Excuuuuuse me, that is public record. Roberts worked for us, he was paid by the taxpayers, this is not a matter of national security. Where does this White House get off pulling this kind of stuff? Right away, it looks like they're trying to cover something up. Lawyer-client privilege? Are they nuts? Everyone's first reaction is, so what's he guilty of?

As Jay Leno notes, this is an important job -- these are the people who pick the president. Of course we're entitled to know what the man's public record is.

So, now all we know about John Roberts is that he has nice manners and is being managed by a bunch of morons -- and he's willing to say what they spin for him. Then we start getting the record. He's defended the often violent Operation Rescue. He went to Florida to advise Jeb Bush during the 2000 election recount. Other Federalists, Timothy Flanigan (who's now in confirmation hearings for deputy attorney general) and Ted Olson (who became solicitor general of the United States) signed onto the brief to convince the Supremes to stop the count in Florida and install Bush. It's all classic, right-wing judicial activism -- the very "activism" they complain bitterly about if it doesn't fit their radical agenda.

Restrict the right of courts to end school segregation, slow down on enforcing laws against discrimination, divest lower courts of jurisdiction over school prayer cases, go easy on Title IX for women and so on. All that was when Roberts was a junior White House lawyer and the records were opened during the Clinton administration. The records from his time as assistant solicitor general during Bush I are what they're trying to keep under wraps.

The Wall Street Journal's editorial page (the People Who Don't Read Their Own Paper) tried to describe the Federalist Society as an anodyne debating society. No, it is not -- it is a radical right organization, which explains why the White House made calls to national media to deny that Roberts was a member.

Jerome Shestack, president of the American Bar Association in 1998, said, "So much of the society's leadership consists of active politicians and others whose slouching toward extremism is self-proclaimed."

The society is funded by millions of dollars from right-wing and libertarian foundations. It attempts to influence legal education and works with right-wing legal advocacy and litigation organizations.

Alfred Ross, of the Institute of Democracy Studies, explains that "through its own 15 practice groups, the society is busy developing new legal theories for every area of American jurisprudence, from civil rights law to national security law, international law, securities regulations law and so on. And if one goes through the publications of their practice groups, one can only gasp not only at the breadth of their agenda, but the extremism of their ideology."

The society has argued for the abolition of the Securities and Exchange Commission, severely limiting the Environmental Protection Agency, and rolling back gender equity laws (Title IX) and voting rights law. Its publications have criticized teaching evolution and attacked the principle of separation of church and state.

According to Ross, they recently launched a state judicial selection project to try to dominate the state, as well as federal, bench. This is all standard, ultra-right-wing claptrap. It's all about control.

If we can't shake loose the actual records on John Roberts, we certainly should pay attention to the group he's most identified with.
 
I can't wait for the day that you actually post some of your own thoughts.

Your brain has been fried by the incessant mumbo jumbo you indulge in.

Please post up some original rantings so I can make a determination of your level of sanity. Thanks.
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A line about Roberts from the first article posted: "He's conservative, but reasonable." Sure it's okay to question everything about someone who is nominated for the Supreme Court. But if liberals choose to fight his nomination, they will be the ones guilty of polarizing not only the Court, but Congress and the country as well. Isn't this what liberals say Bush has done? Give me a break. It's not going to get any better than this for the liberals coming from Bush. And if every nominee is blocked, that'll alienate the liberals from the country even more, thus ensuring their further decline.
 
That first article is unconvincing in its attempt to malign Roberts' qualifications. It attacks him on his ideological views only, while admitting that Roberts' opponents (including the author) need to make up a story so their readers will think badly enough of him to matter.

Furthermore, the article is typical of liberals who want judges who make law, instead of strictly interpreting law and getting out of the way, which is what the founders of our country originally intended. The legislative branch is supposed to make law, not the judicial branch. The article deplores his judicial philosophy as though just because he is conservative he is unfit to serve.

The fact of the matter is that the Supreme Court of the United States is not a political entity. It was never intended to fight for the side of one party or another. This weak attempt to make him look like a partisan will most assuredly fail, just as assuredly as an attempt to disqualify a referee of a football game for strictly interpreting the rules would fail.

In conclusion, it is not expedient to qualify a judge based on his political or religious views. It is of utmost importance that the judge know the Constitution of the United States like the back of his hand, and that he/she interprets the letter of the law based on the original intent, not based on some flux of current modern values.
 
MonsterMark said:
I can't wait for the day that you actually post some of your own thoughts.

Your brain has been fried by the incessant mumbo jumbo you indulge in.

Please post up some original rantings so I can make a determination of your level of sanity. Thanks.
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See, that's what I was trying to point out a while back!

When you're just an article-dumper it appears that you believe what other people tell you instead of developing your own system of beliefs.
 
fossten said:
See, that's what I was trying to point out a while back!

When you're just an article-dumper it appears that you believe what other people tell you instead of developing your own system of beliefs.
"There's nothing new under the sun."
 
"So Roberts already looks disingenuous at best, and then the White House up and decides it's entirely too risky to let the public in on his record as a government lawyer and refuses to release documents requested.

Excuuuuuse me, that is public record. Roberts worked for us, he was paid by the taxpayers, this is not a matter of national security. Where does this White House get off pulling this kind of stuff? Right away, it looks like they're trying to cover something up. Lawyer-client privilege? Are they nuts? Everyone's first reaction is, so what's he guilty of?"



See, this shows just how STUPID Molly Ivins really is. And how ***** anyone who listens to her drivel is as well.

Any work done in the Solicitor General's office is protected under Separation of Powers. Six former Solicitors General agree with this opinion. This material is just as good as classified, and the Dems in Congress knew it, and they knew they had no right to request it, and they knew the President's office would refuse to produce it. They have requested this information in a blatant and sorry attempt to create the illusion of impropriety because the only course of action the President can take is to refuse. "See, they're hiding something!" This was predicted two weeks ago to happen, and Molly Ivins has fallen for the Dem trick hook, line, and sinker.

She's just a loudmouth Bush/Conservative-hater anyway. Has no credibility. No real columns in any REAL newspapers.

Phil, you really ought to background check your articles' authors b/f you post them.
 
The biggest chuckle of the weekend had to come from none other than John Kerry himself who demanded that Roberts produce all of his records. This coming from a guy who ran for the Office of President of the United States and REFUSED to release all his records. That a-hole made me waste 3 months of my life trying to find these 'records' elsewhere.

Democrats = Hypocrites
 
fossten said:
They have requested this information in a blatant and sorry attempt to create the illusion of impropriety because the only course of action the President can take is to refuse. "See, they're hiding something!"

Those evil liberals are at it again. LOL
 
JohnnyBz00LS said:
Those evil liberals are at it again. LOL
Yep. They want what they want and will stop at nothing to get it, despite the fact that they are losers for the second election in a row and can't accept it. They attack and demagogue b/c they have no power base anymore.
 

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