The Catechism Of A Ceasefire

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Monday, July 31, 2006
THE CATECHISM OF A CEASEFIRE
BY DEAN BARNETT

In his magnificent biography of Winston Churchill, “The Last Lion – Alone: 1932-1940,” William Manchester used the term “the catechism of appeasement” to describe the European powers’ irrational faith in their ability to appease Hitler. In spite of Hitler’s belligerence and plainly evil objectives, the wise men of Europe labored at convincing themselves that their program of appeasing Hitler would be successful.

Regarding the Middle East right now, we have something similar – call it the catechism of a ceasefire. There is nothing that suggests that Hezbollah or its state sponsors want any kind of lasting peace with either Israel or the United States. But the cries for a ceasefire continue. If only the bombs would stop falling, ceasefire proponents seem to argue, we could once again comfortably insert our heads into the sand and pretend all is well.

The fact that we would only defer the true day of reckoning to a later though likely bloodier date seems not to be a consideration.

IT WAS ACTUALLY TOUGHER for the Hitler than it is for the modern day Islamo-fascists. Hitler had to occasionally offer some dishonest rhetoric suggesting that he was just attempting to restore a natural balance to things and really had no offensive designs on the rest of Europe. Churchill understood Hitler’s half-hearted attempts to pose as a man of peace for what they were. He famously referred to one of Hitler’s less bellicose speeches as “comfort for everyone on both sides of the Atlantic who wished to be humbugged.”

Alas, the Jihadists see no need to humbug us – we’re quite willing to humbug ourselves. Blogger Atrios, a man at the intellectual vanguard of modern day liberalism (if such an intellectually exhausted movement can actually possess a phalanx worthy of the term “vanguard) wrote a revealing blog-post over the weekend. Apparently provoked into silliness by a Glenn Reynolds post, Atrios declared, “I hope we’re never tested on what our actual response to nuclear terrorism is no matter who is to blame, both because I hope nuclear terrorism never happens to us and because I don’t really want to have to actually consider what the appropriate response to such an event would be.”

(It’s not like Atrios didn’t get a good shot in at Reynolds. Showing the sharp debating skills that can only be found at the highest levels of academia, Atrios slashed Reynolds with his rapier-like rhetoric, calling him the “Instawanker.”)

Far more important than Atrios’ chronic affection for juvenile insults is his intellectual cop-out. It’s true that nuclear terrorism is a disquieting thing to contemplate. But are we not better off contemplating such things ahead of time so we can act wisely if and when they do occur? Perhaps Atrios is just copying a page out of some prominent Democrats’ playbook. Maybe Ray Nagin once scribbled in his personal diary that he didn’t want to contemplate the horrors of the levies being breeched, let alone what he would do with all those school buses if such a thing occurred.

And certainly the leaders of the Democratic Party have been mum on how to confront Radical Islam the past five years. They seem to have reached a consensus on the fact that everything George W. Bush does, from the troop levels he fields in Iraq to how he parts his hair, is irretrievably mistaken. And yet, similar to Atrios, they seem “reluctant to consider” how they would deal with this very real threat. Or perhaps drunk on his own power as is the progressive blogger’s wont, Atrios feels that his refusal to consider nuclear terrorism will by some unidentified mechanism forestall the threat.

Atrios’ stand puts the Democratic Party and the left wing blogosphere (which still en masse refuses to even address Israel’s war) in stark relief. They have become the party of
Scarlet O’Hara, twirling about their virtual Tara defiantly insisting that they will not contemplate the nation’s problems until some far-off tomorrow.

SUCH IS THE LOGIC THAT INSISTS ON AN IMMEDIATE CEASEFIRE. After all, it’s tough to bounce about saying “twiddle-dee-dee” and focusing exclusively on Ned Lamont while Katyushas are falling by the hundreds on Northern Israel and the United Nations has worked itself into a lather over Israel’s purportedly disproportionate response.

Besides, a serious intellectual engagement with the Israel-Hezbollah war requires the contemplation of a whole host of downright unpleasant issues. After all, Hezbollah did not produce the Katyushas that rain down on Israel. Without their state sponsors, Hezbollah would not have these weapons. Equally unpleasant is the fact that neither Hezbollah nor its state sponsors seem to have any interest in peace.

True, a ceasefire will be a break in the action, but a break in the action to what end and to the benefit of what parties? Or is such a question too unpleasant to consider?
 
'Disproportionate' in What Moral Universe?

By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, July 28, 2006; A25

What other country, when attacked in an unprovoked aggression across a recognized international frontier, is then put on a countdown clock by the world, given a limited time window in which to fight back, regardless of whether it has restored its own security?

What other country sustains 1,500 indiscriminate rocket attacks into its cities -- every one designed to kill, maim and terrorize civilians -- and is then vilified by the world when it tries to destroy the enemy's infrastructure and strongholds with precision-guided munitions that sometimes have the unintended but unavoidable consequence of collateral civilian death and suffering?

To hear the world pass judgment on the Israel-Hezbollah war as it unfolds is to live in an Orwellian moral universe. With a few significant exceptions (the leadership of the United States, Britain, Australia, Canada and a very few others), the world -- governments, the media, U.N. bureaucrats -- has completely lost its moral bearings.

The word that obviates all thinking and magically inverts victim into aggressor is "disproportionate," as in the universally decried "disproportionate Israeli response."

When the United States was attacked at Pearl Harbor, it did not respond with a parallel "proportionate" attack on a Japanese naval base. It launched a four-year campaign that killed millions of Japanese, reduced Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki to cinders, and turned the Japanese home islands into rubble and ruin.

Disproportionate? No. When one is wantonly attacked by an aggressor, one has every right -- legal and moral -- to carry the fight until the aggressor is disarmed and so disabled that it cannot threaten one's security again. That's what it took with Japan.

Britain was never invaded by Germany in World War II. Did it respond to the Blitz and V-1 and V-2 rockets with "proportionate" aerial bombardment of Germany? Of course not. Churchill orchestrated the greatest air campaign and land invasion in history, which flattened and utterly destroyed Germany, killing untold innocent German women and children in the process.

The perversity of today's international outcry lies in the fact that there is indeed a disproportion in this war, a radical moral asymmetry between Hezbollah and Israel: Hezbollah is deliberately trying to create civilian casualties on both sides while Israel is deliberately trying to minimize civilian casualties, also on both sides.

In perhaps the most blatant terror campaign from the air since the London Blitz, Hezbollah is raining rockets on Israeli cities and villages. These rockets are packed with ball bearings that can penetrate automobiles and shred human flesh. They are meant to kill and maim. And they do.

But it is a dual campaign. Israeli innocents must die in order for Israel to be terrorized. But Lebanese innocents must also die in order for Israel to be demonized, which is why Hezbollah hides its fighters, its rockets, its launchers, its entire infrastructure among civilians. Creating human shields is a war crime. It is also a Hezbollah specialty.

On Wednesday CNN cameras showed destruction in Tyre. What does Israel have against Tyre and its inhabitants? Nothing. But the long-range Hezbollah rockets that have been raining terror on Haifa are based in Tyre. What is Israel to do? Leave untouched the launch sites that are deliberately placed in built-up areas?

Had Israel wanted to destroy Lebanese civilian infrastructure, it would have turned out the lights in Beirut in the first hour of the war, destroying the billion-dollar power grid and setting back Lebanon 20 years. It did not do that. Instead it attacked dual-use infrastructure -- bridges, roads, airport runways -- and blockaded Lebanon's ports to prevent the reinforcement and resupply of Hezbollah. Ten thousand Katyusha rockets are enough. Israel was not going to allow Hezbollah 10,000 more.

Israel's response to Hezbollah has been to use the most precise weaponry and targeting it can. It has no interest, no desire to kill Lebanese civilians. Does anyone imagine that it could not have leveled south Lebanon, to say nothing of Beirut? Instead, in the bitter fight against Hezbollah in southern Lebanon, it has repeatedly dropped leaflets, issued warnings, sent messages by radio and even phone text to Lebanese villagers to evacuate so that they would not be harmed.

Israel knows that these leaflets and warnings give the Hezbollah fighters time to escape and regroup. The advance notification as to where the next attack is coming has allowed Hezbollah to set up elaborate ambushes. The result? Unexpectedly high Israeli infantry casualties. Moral scrupulousness paid in blood. Israeli soldiers die so that Lebanese civilians will not, and who does the international community condemn for disregarding civilian life?
 
It's almost as if Israel is the terrorist nation, no one demands that Hezbollah stop killing innocent civilians when they blow up Jews or Americans. why is there no accountability for terrorists when they murder innocent civilians?? :confused: I say all terrorists MUST pay with their lifes for their crimes against humanity. :mad:
 
Just shows whee this world is headed....for total destruction. We have lost the meaning of right and wrong. Good is no longer seen as the force necessary to fight evil. We are doomed to destroy ourselves.

It is only a matter of tuime until they nuke a city. Then we will see if we turn the other cheek of nuke a country. At this point it looks like we will turn the other cheek and surrender.
 
JC1994 said:
what I meant is why is Israel being made into the bad guys? :confused:

Because the media's action line is to destroy Bush. You can't destroy Bush if you're making Israel look good, because Bush supports Israel.

Furthermore, it is the action line of most media types to glorify human suffering and make it a martyrdom. You know the line - "We've got to stop the violence." It's popular with liberals to be antiwar and pacifistic. What would you think if CBS did a story entitled, "Israel needs to wipe out the Middle East." I'd have a heart attack. But that's probably the only way in reality to stop the violence.

Media types don't understand the enemy we face. They don't understand that Islamic Arab nations don't want land. They don't want money. They don't want concessions. What they want is to kill Jews and Americans. They are taught from early childhood that Jews drink blood and Americans are Satan. They believe that to die for the cause means paradise and virgins. They really believe that crap.

It'd be just as hard to imagine reasoning with a KKK grand wizard in the 60's that African Americans are nice people, so can't we all just get along?
 
fossten said:
Because the media's action line is to destroy Bush. You can't destroy Bush if you're making Israel look good, because Bush supports Israel. QUOTE]


The liberals also are fixated on destroying Bush. What a bunch of morons. Bush is done for, he will soon be history. Why don't they put their efforts into promoting our next president, or are we going to be voting on the best of the worst again?

If cease fires solved conflicts there would be one Korea right now. Let them fight until there is a winner, then let the winner eliminate the loser just like the good old days. You may not have liked the Romans, but they kept the peace for some time.
 
fossten said:
Now you're singing Ron's tune.


Hehehe...I almost missed that one....Good one. Sorry...but I think Israel's reaction has killed too many civilians. And by definition when you terrorize civilians like that, you become a terrorist. No different than when those loonies strap bombs to themselves.

If you want to see an example of how it's done, look how the US took care of Afghanistan. Yes, there were civilian casulaties, but the US did their best to avoid cities/towns and avoid civilians. The US was in the same dilemna..hard to tell civilians from Taliban. You guys COULD have flattened every town and every mudhouse. But you didn't. You guys did it right. By the way, that's what my very 1st response was to this war. The US did it right, and Israel is doing it wrong.
 
Agreed....But there are ways to minimize those types of casualties, and the US had done that. IMO Israel has not.
 
Then they sure have been making ALOT of mistakes...
 
RRocket said:
Then they sure have been making ALOT of mistakes...

You base this on what? You're dealing with an enemy that is literally hiding amongst children.

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It's an enemy that feels that feels there is victory in either killing Israeli civillians or in the accidental death of their own. This is reinforced by the media.

I don't think they've been making many mistakes at all. You're talking about a military that notifies targets by flyers, then often calls them on the telephone, to warn them of attacks.
 
RRocket said:
Agreed....But there are ways to minimize those types of casualties, and the US had done that. IMO Israel has not.

Let's hear your super-secret solution to the dilemma of Hezbollah dressing as civilians and holding them hostage.
 

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