The Coming Insurrection

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Extreme Left Calling People to Arms
Wednesday, July 01, 2009
By Glenn Beck


While the government warns that right-wing extremists could be domestic terrorists, and The New York Times, says I could incite those crazy conservatives to violence, the extreme left is actively calling for violence!

As world economies go down the tank and unemployment continues to rise, disenfranchised people are set to explode.

The dangerous leftist book that could spark this is "The Coming Insurrection." This is a call to arms for violent revolution, authored anonymously by a French group called the Invisible Committee who want to bring down capitalism.

This started in France and spread to countries like Greece and Iceland, where people are out of work, out of money and out of patience.

Now it's coming here. The book comes out in English in the U.S. in August. I have one of the first English copies.

The book was written after riots in the Paris suburbs in 2005 tore the country apart, and that was before the economy really got bad. This is the anti-"Common Sense," where I call for peaceful protest.

This is a book of revolution. Remember this is not from the right, you know the radicals that everyone is so worried about in government. This is from the far left. Let me share a bit:

"Take up arms. Do everything possible to make their use unnecessary. There is no such thing as a peaceful insurrection. Weapons are necessary."

The French government was so freaked out they arrested nine people believed to have written "The Coming Insurrection" on charges of "criminal association for the purposes of terrorist activity" for allegedly sabotaging train lines in France.

When I first heard of this book it was in The New York Times book section. A group had organized an unauthorized reading of "The Coming Insurrection" at a New York City bookstore. When they were shooed out of the store they went to Starbucks and so on. Not exactly terrorist activity; more of a curiosity.

But it gets a little more creepy when you look at this: One of those leaders arrested in France Julien Coupat was held for six months and just released this May. According to a story in The Globe and Mail back in January of 2008 while visiting Canada, Coupat and his girlfriend sneaked over the border to visit New York City. According to relatives, they didn't want their photos and fingerprints in the hands of U.S. authorities. Why is that? (By the way are our borders protected yet?)

Remember the media will tell you the right is the one to be feared. They do everything they can to tie any random nutjob shooting to conservatives. "The shooter was a fan of '24' — '24' starred Jon Voight — Jon Voight is a conservative!"

But this is a call for violence. Here is more:

"It's a question of knowing how to fight, to pick locks, to set broken bones and treat sicknesses; how to build a pirate radio transmitter; how to set up street kitchens; how to aim straight."

The synopsis of the book describes it as "an eloquent call to arms arising from the recent waves of social contestation in France and Europe... a strategic prescription for an emergent war-machine to spread anarchy and live communism."

A few years ago I said that Europe is on the brink of destruction. This is yet another sign that it's coming. Even in Japan where protests have been seen as taboo since the 1960s, young people angered over the economy and fear for their future — taking to the streets, beginning to unionize. The communist party of Japan says they are getting 1,000 new members a month.

This book has not even been released in this country yet. It has been passed hand to hand and via the Internet, much like the pamphleteers in pre-revolution America. Thomas Paine was one of them. He issued a call to arms. I am not doing that. You are an idiot if you start shooting people — all that does is delegitimize the cause. Be like Ghandi, like Martin Luther King.

But people on the extreme left are calling people to arms. I am not calling to ban this book, but you should read it to know what is coming and be ready when it does.
 
Good luck with that. I doubt that many extreme lefties can shoot straight, or have any decent supply of ammo. I'm good for at least 200 zombies at a time before I have to change barrels. I can change barrels 5 times before I'm out of .308 ammo, and then I can switch to my scoped .22.
 
Good luck with that. I doubt that many extreme lefties can shoot straight, or have any decent supply of ammo. I'm good for at least 200 zombies at a time before I have to change barrels. I can change barrels 5 times before I'm out of .308 ammo, and then I can switch to my scoped .22.

Worse yet, those zombies will then have their lawyers after you.
 
I actually don't want to make light of this, it's a pretty serious subject.
Is barricading your home the solution?

It's interesting to note where this violence is coming from in Europe.
And if anyone thinks this story is silly and has nothing to do with the U.S.- why?
 
Who says I'm going to barricade my home? Believe me, I have multiple contingency plans for when things go south. Only one of them involves holing up. It just depends on what's happening. You can't have tunnelvision, because nothing like this has ever happened here.

I would encourage you to research the Finn-Russo war in 1939, and I'll leave it at that.
 
Who says I'm going to barricade my home?
I wasn't. Simply addressing the point you made and using it to segway into a broader topic.

Believe me, I have multiple contingency plans for when things go south. Only one of them involves holing up. It just depends on what's happening. You can't have tunnelvision, because nothing like this has ever happened here.
I agree.
I'm interested in some of the other plans.

I would encourage you to research the Finn-Russo war in 1939, and I'll leave it at that.
Not exactly optimistic.
 
Foxpaws, do you have your advanced copy?
Does anyone here want a copy?
 
It is a couple of years old - and you can google it and get a pdf of it...

It really is pretty old news - as far as Europe is concerned.

I have thought that the group sounds a lot like it could be based on the works of Guy Debord - once again a Marxist Frenchman whose work Society of the Spectacle is linked to the Paris uprising of 1968.

I would imagine that these same types of 'fear and loathing' feelings were being circulated by the right regarding Debord's work during the 60s and 70s. However, things never did degenerate into the armed left anarchy that Beck is warning us about, and we actually embraced politicians like Reagan and Thatcher after Debord. The swing of the pendulum.

Also, note the 'don't do as I say, nudge, nudge, wink, wink' off hand call to arms in the 2nd to last paragraph...
This book has not even been released in this country yet. It has been passed hand to hand and via the Internet, much like the pamphleteers in pre-revolution America. Thomas Paine was one of them. He issued a call to arms. I am not doing that. You are an idiot if you start shooting people — all that does is delegitimize the cause. Be like Ghandi, like Martin Luther King.

I really do wonder if Beck is for peaceful change, this would be quite the about face for Beck, and the whole imagery of Thomas Paine is weird. Beck glorifies Paine, and in fact on one of his shows right before the 15th of April he used a man dressed up like Paine to associate Paine with the Tea Parties. And heck, didn't he write a book "Glenn Beck's Common Sense: The Evolution of Thomas Paine's Revolution" that very much glorified the ideas of Thomas Paine and showing how Paine would view the path America is currently taking? Previously, everything else Beck has discussed would point to the fact that Paine would have been his hero, not Ghandi.

Beck is sending mixed signals - wouldn't you say Cal?
 
It is a couple of years old - and you can google it and get a pdf of it...
Yes, the English translation is available on line.
In book form, it's due out in book stores shortly.

It really is pretty old news - as far as Europe is concerned.
It came out in 2007, so it's not that "old."

Also, note the 'don't do as I say, nudge, nudge, wink, wink' off hand call to arms in the 2nd to last paragraph...
No, that isn't there.
Either you're simply mistaken, projecting, or deceiving. You don't want to discuss this book, or the subject, and you'd rather make this a conversation that paints Beck as some kind of violent extremist instead.

I really do wonder if Beck is for peaceful change, this would be quite the about face for Beck,
No it would not.

Beck has been absolutely consistent in saying that the non-violent, civil disobedience models resembling Ghandi and MLK are the only ones that would be effective. Violence would undermine any cause.

and the whole imagery of Thomas Paine is weird. Beck glorifies Paine, and in fact on one of his shows right before the 15th of April he used a man dressed up like Paine to associate Paine with the Tea Parties
Let me correct you again.

The guy dressed like Paine was independent of Beck. He was a private citizen who started posting his short videos on Youtube. Beck had him appear on the show, but he certainly wasn't Beck's creation.

The Tea Party's are not Beck's creation.
He's associated with them, but, like myself, he didn't think they were particularly well conceived.

And heck, didn't he write a book "Glenn Beck's Common Sense: The Evolution of Thomas Paine's Revolution" that very much glorified the ideas of Thomas Paine and showing how Paine would view the path America is currently taking?
No, he wrote a book called:
Glenn Beck's Common Sense: The Case Against an Out-of-Control Government.
Inspired by Thomas Paine.

Previously, everything else Beck has discussed would point to the fact that Paine would have been his hero, not Ghandi.
Not at all. But I can see how you came to that conclusion, noting that virtually everything you said in the previous post was either false or mistaken.

Beck is sending mixed signals - wouldn't you say Cal?
No, I wouldn't. Not at all.
Nice try though.
 
Yes, the English translation is available on line.
In book form, it's due out in book stores shortly.

It came out in 2007, so it's not that "old."

In internet time - old.

So, let me see if I have this right - you are worried about the left mounting an armed 'marxist/socialist' revolution to overthrow the left controlled government in the US which you have labeled marxist and socialist?

Why would marxists/socialists want to overtake something that you think they already have in their control? Should the US government be worried that marxists are arming themselves and are about to start a revolution? I thought Obama was a marxist in your mind.

So, what am I missing here Cal?
Beck has been absolutely consistent in saying that the non-violent, civil disobedience models resembling Ghandi and MLK are the only ones that would be effective. Violence would undermine any cause.

So, up to this point, the people have spoken in a non violent fashion, placing into government people they believed echoed their views? And now, the right, should start having non violent protests, hunger strikes and million man marches on Washington? Not bear arms against the government, like Thomas Paine advocated? But, Beck reveres Paine.
The guy dressed like Paine was independent of Beck. He was a private citizen who started posting his short videos on Youtube. Beck had him appear on the show, but he certainly wasn't Beck's creation.

I didn't say that Beck created him - I said that Beck used him. Beck used him on his show to make a point regarding the tea parties, that Thomas Paine would have been for the current day tea parties, just as he was for the Boston Tea Party (which wasn't a whimpy, non violent, we will throw the tea on our office floor because we are afraid of the government, affair). However, I think Paine would have scoffed at the current day tea parties.

No, he wrote a book called:
Glenn Beck's Common Sense: The Case Against an Out-of-Control Government.
Inspired by Thomas Paine.

However it seems like one of the common or trade names for it is: Glenn Beck's Common Sense: The Evolution of Thomas Paine's Revolution


Not at all. But I can see how you came to that conclusion, noting that virtually everything you said in the previous post was either false or mistaken.

So, why didn't Beck write a book looking at the Evolution of Ghandi's Revolution. Beck does admire and often evoke Paine in many of his writings and on his show - you can't glorify Thomas Paine in your most recent published work, and then sort of hang Thomas Paine by the thumbs by saying that the route Ghandi took is the correct path when you are painting the The Invisible Committee as the next big evil. Beck can't have it both ways. Either you go with Paine's armed revolution, or you go with Ghandi's peaceable one.

He is sending mixed signals Cal.

And, have there been signs here that the left in America is embracing this work, "The Coming Insurrection."? Or is it just because the "french left" was interested in it? I guess world wide the left embraces all the same things... how narrow minded is that Cal? Ohhhhhh, the rascally left French have started to read this book - we better watch out - you know that means the evil American left will embrace it as well.;)
 
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However it seems like one of the common or trade names for it is: Glenn Beck's Common Sense: The Evolution of Thomas Paine's Revolution

Here is the picture of the book cover from the link you provided:

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I know - but the website says: Glenn Beck's Common Sense: The Evolution of Thomas Paine's Revolution (another link)

I wonder if that is the name it originally was going to be published under - and that is the Library of Congress registration name? That is often what the auto build sites use... So, the site picks up the original/registered name and then the image has the final/published name...

Weird huh?

But, needless to say - it is strange that Beck glorifies Paine in one breath and then sort of jabs him in the next, saying that peaceful revolution is the only way to go.
 
Also, note the 'don't do as I say, nudge, nudge, wink, wink' off hand call to arms in the 2nd to last paragraph...

Beck is sending mixed signals - wouldn't you say Cal?
Just like the 'nudge nudge, wink wink' by the producer of "Death of a President", right?

Oh, he wasn't advocating killing Bush, he was only exploring what the reaction would be if it happened. :rolleyes:
 
Just like the 'nudge nudge, wink wink' by the producer of "Death of a President", right?

Oh, he wasn't advocating killing Bush, he was only exploring what the reaction would be if it happened. :rolleyes:

Exactly the same...

So, Foss are you worried about an armed uprising by marxists in this country to overtake the government, when according to you, and well, the entire right wing faction here, that we already have a marxist regime in power?

Seems like overkill to me - they, according to you, already have the reins of power firmly in their control. Revolution accomplished - peaceably I may add.
 
Exactly the same...

So, Foss are you worried about an armed uprising by marxists in this country to overtake the government, when according to you, and well, the entire right wing faction here, that we already have a marxist regime in power?

Seems like overkill to me - they, according to you, already have the reins of power firmly in their control. Revolution accomplished - peaceably I may add.
Since you've already answered your own question to your apparent satisfaction, I don't need to respond. Good job of spewing rhetoric, propagandist. :rolleyes:
 
Since you've already answered your own question to your apparent satisfaction, I don't need to respond. Good job of spewing rhetoric, propagandist. :rolleyes:

Translation - "Whoops, I guess I didn't really think this through":p
 
Why are you making this a conversation about Glenn Beck?
All of the points you tried to make regarding him were wrong, but that doesn't stop you. You just push the point harder, trying different angles.

Get back on the topic.
The book is called the COMING INSURRECTION.
Perhaps it's old news to you, but that's because you're on the far left.

Here's a novel idea, instead of building little strawmen, or mischaracterizing other commentators, why don't you discuss the book.

You were extremely dismissive of the Weather Underground in the past, so I'm not surprised that you're dismissive of the message associated with this book as well. Having only recently obtained a translated English .pdf of it, I haven't finished reading it yet. What are your thoughts regarding it.

You don't think that the movement behind the book has anything in common with the riots in France? I know that you won't candidly or honestly discuss the leftist agenda being advanced in the U.S. in public, but maybe you'll be a little more candid regarding Europe.
 
Why am I making this a conversation about Beck - because he is far more interesting, and relevant to US politics than The Coming Insurrection.

It should take you 2 hours or less to read it Cal. It is a silly treatise from a few utopian thinkers in France who want to over throw the socialist government, sack and destroy the metropolitan areas, up root the farmers and set up small communes in the countryside. Plus, they then don't want to work the farms, heck, they reject the idea of any type of work. Wow - that is going to 'work' well. It is extremely elitist, and very unrealistic. They hate the government, they hate capitalism, they hate socialism, they hate education, and they have no idea of what they want to replace any of that with other than some loosely formed communal system of farms that seem to be forever in a state of political flux. Sound like the Holy Grail where the serfs take turns running the local government? It is exactly like that - but not as funny...

Does it look like the students in our colleges, or the unemployed are so disgusted with the way things are going that they will be rising up against the current government, lay waste to it, and then have all of us live in small communal farms?

Winnie the Pooh is more frightening than this book. (Where Piglet displays classic symptoms of generalized anxiety; Rabbit, narcissistic personality syndrome; Owl is emotionally disturbed, which renders him dyslexic. Eeyore has low self-esteem, chronic depression and an inability to enjoy pleasure... And let's not get into the relationship between Christopher Robin and Pooh...)

The riots in France happened before the writing of this book, the book didn't foster the movement, a few radicals within the movement fostered the book.

As I said - you should read Debord - whose works really did cause riots, and whose works, even though 30 years old are far more relevant to today's worlds and problems than a group of dissatisfied unemployed French elitists who want to grow cucumbers magically - without any work involved, while having anarchy and chaos be the driving force behind their tiny communes where no work takes place.

So, how is that Cal -

I can't believe that Beck would even give this piece of French garbage the time of day - let alone a whole column, and a piece on his show about it.

It is a boring book about a unrealistic scenario that has absolutely nothing to do with the current political/economic climate in the United States.

Read Debord - please. You were interested in Alinsky - Debord is better. Or even better - you want to read how to start, foster and grow a revolution - read Thomas Paine.

And why Alinsky is good - because the rules for radicals work for either side of the fence - the right or left can use the rules, they aren't dependent on philosophy - they are just rules.

This whole 'Insurrection' book isn't about creating, but just destroying, and then unrealistically looking at degrading into a Cambodian/PolPot destruction of a society.

So, I didn't dismiss the Weatherman - they are historically interesting, but dinosaurs Cal. The Invisible Committee isn't interesting, will have no impact on history and will be relegated to a blip on the radar of utopian thought.

Now - you didn't answer a question that I think is very interesting. Why do you think that the American left will even give this book a cursory glance? Have there been signs here in America that the left is embracing the thoughts and direction outlined in this book?
 
Translation - "Whoops, I guess I didn't really think this through":p
Wrong again. You've failed to even make a point. But thanks for admitting that Obama and his minions are Marxists. :rolleyes:
 
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Wrong again. You've failed to even make a point. But thanks for admitting that Obama and his minions are Marxists. :rolleyes:

foss, please start 'reading' my posts if you are going to comment on them, instead of just skimming them.

Regarding Obama and his minions being 'marxists', I reiterate...

So, Foss are you worried about an armed uprising by marxists in this country to overtake the government, when according to you, and well, the entire right wing faction here, that we already have a marxist regime in power?

Seems like overkill to me - they, according to you, already have the reins of power firmly in their control. Revolution accomplished - peaceably I may add.

I have stated that the right wing faction on this board seems to believe that Obama is a marxist - I never said that I believe that he is...
 
I have stated that the right wing faction on this board seems to believe that Obama is a marxist - I never said that I believe that he is...

Actually, I think the distinction has been made on this forum between Obama's particular brand of post-Marxist socialism (egalitarianism / democratic socialism) and Marxism.
 
You have made that distinction shag - but it appears that many on the right (on this forum) use the generic 'marxist' labeling when referring to the president to foster fear and hatred.

And, unlike Foss ascertains, I have never used that labeling when referring to the current administration.
 
foss, please start 'reading' my posts if you are going to comment on them, instead of just skimming them.

Regarding Obama and his minions being 'marxists', I reiterate...



I have stated that the right wing faction on this board seems to believe that Obama is a marxist - I never said that I believe that he is...
Speaking of 'skimming posts,' please show me where I stated that I was worried about an uprising by Marxists. I'll patiently stand here and wait while you scurry for the tall grass.

You posted a straw man and then knocked it down. In doing so you have to accept my premise that Obama is a Marxist. You fail.
 

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