The little tranny that could...

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The little tranny that could...

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This tranny has served me well over the years, including putting up with abuse it takes to make a Mark VIII run a 13.4 second ET in the quarter mile. Well the time for all good things must come to an end, and this way it is under my terms. I spent part of the weekend with the car at a shop getting the tranny replaced.

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I went with a race-prepped tranny built for whatever I may decide to throw at it in the future.

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It started with a late model case and J-modded valve body with all the 'good stuff' inside including the rear bushing lube mod and the extra large capacity cast aluminum pan.

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The 3800 stall converter remains and I included a SpeedCal device to be able to accurately program the speedo for the 4.30 gears.

Nothing comes with this car without pain however. After a late arrival, and another customer in front of me it was nearly 2 AM when we were done and we decided to put the new hard lines for the cooler off 'til another day. :eek:

The speedcal was a PITA to install. Built for mustangs, the wiring was short and had to be spliced longer since the only logical installation for the black box was in the console. With the 18 tooth speedo gear we calculated the settings for the tranny output shaft, gears and tires only to find them off by about 9%. I've since changed it and now have it within 3-4% by GPS. Another round of calculations should put that near spot on for the gears and tires I currently have.

The 4 hour plus drive home in the wee hours also showed the converter isn't locking up, so I've got some troubleshooting to do there. At first it wasn't so apparent, but once I started in the hills towards home it became quite obvious. Even still, 190* was the warmest the tranny temp gauge ever registered in the hilly terrain.

The harness needed re-pinned for the new setup, so if I'm lucky it may just be a loose pin in the bulkhead connector? Worse case I was assured would be a defective 'new' TCC solenoid. Wouldn't be the first I suppose.

I may break out my recently acquired 'break-out' box and see what it tells me. :rolleyes:

All in all though, I'm pleased and I'm sure once I get the lock-up working, it will be a good choice to have made. The old tranny showed some unusual findings in the autopsy, but no readily apparent serious malfunctions. The pan and fluid was spotless and some of the old '93 era internal parts were almost instant Smithsonian conversation pieces. Not bad for 138,000 miles and hundreds of track passes - considering this was supposedly the worst of the 4R70W trannies ever. Just goes to show what proper maintenance can do. :)
 
How much did the install and trans run ya? Im eager to hear your hopefully improved, though already impressive 1\4mi times.
 
The first one served you well and your a lucky SOB :p Nice upgrade trans... I'll be calling him too once I get into the trans more in my car or blow it up. Let us know how you like it please. I'll be jealous for a while, lol...

Call Dallas Mustangs and tell them your setup. They will tell you the right dip setting to use. If it's a new unit the calculator doesn't work on their website. I had to do this with mine I just put in.
I installed mine in front of the shifter (under the defrost button) and put the wires through the grommet that is right there. The wires were perfect length...
 
I'm running an extended range Speed cal in the 94. I'll try to find my conversion chart DM gave me.
 
Nice box JP!! Good luck with her.
I still NEVER will get the rear lube deal LOL I have NEVER in 11 years with 4.10's and converters experienced ANY issues not using it, nor have I ever heard of any issues not using it with this box.
 
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I still NEVER will get the rear lube deal LOL I have NEVER in 11 years with 4.10's and converters experienced ANY issues not using it, nor have I ever heard of any issues not using it with this box.

I know, kinda like deer whistles. Hard to prove a negative. :D
 
I'm running an extended range Speed cal in the 94. I'll try to find my conversion chart DM gave me.

That'll be cool.

I don't understand why the charts are different. I don't understand the charts. I don't understand the binary code. That's my problem.

Give me gear teeth ratios, rpms and tire sizes and I can figure out any variable along the path. But i don't understand 1010000101 ???
 
DirtyDog... ouch

In the vic world there has been nothing but bad words about DD, including converters failing in 100-200 miles, and converters not locking up.

Lonnie at BOC and Darrin at BC Auto were getting conveters from DD but with all the issues they dropped him completly. His converters would fail and then he wouldn't follow through and fix the issues, blaming it on tuning.

I hope you didn't get boned by one of his :q:q:q:qed up converters.
 
jp when mike and i installed the converter in the 94 it was cazy. reading the gps and spedometer and him flippping the dips. sure got some funny actions on the speedometer. but it did get it right on less than 4 tenths in a 1000 mile on the odometer. by the way pm your address so i can send that elder salve to your wife. haven't forgot just lazy and lost the address. best of everything to you and the family JD
 
DirtyDog... ouch

In the vic world there has been nothing but bad words about DD, including converters failing in 100-200 miles, and converters not locking up.

Lonnie at BOC and Darrin at BC Auto were getting conveters from DD but with all the issues they dropped him completly. His converters would fail and then he wouldn't follow through and fix the issues, blaming it on tuning.

I hope you didn't get boned by one of his :q:q:q:qed up converters.

Anybody else have a problem with Dirty Dogs stuff? I thought that he was the guy to go to for converters?
 
My buddy Dan has one in his vic, it acts really really strange, it hasn't failed but it make weird noises and unlock weird. It doen't even have that many miles on it.
 
Just got done talking with my friend Dan, his converter failed last night with a little under 3,000 miles on it.
 
Nothing much new to update since work has hijacked me and holding me for ransom. :p

JD, I'll send a PM. Nice to hear from you. Hope you can make it to Carlisle this year.

As far as DirtyDog converters, all I can say is it was fine up 'til the new tranny. We just need time to troubleshoot, that's all. Whatever it is I am confident it will be made right.
 
It was the 2-3 accumulator. Go figure. After trying virtually everything else, the tranny was tore down and the culprit was found. DirtyDog Performance darn near pulled an all-nighter following a long day to find the problem and fix it.

Apparently, the source of the acumulators was changed somewhere along the line and they were defective causing a pressure loss resulting in no lockup and burnt clutches. The mega-cooler minimized the trauma.

All's well. The converter is locking like a champ. :D
 

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