The U.S. is a Welfare State

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Welfare State Stasis

By Robert J. Samuelson
Wednesday, February 14, 2007; A19

Spend a moment studying the adjacent table. It illuminates why another of our annual budget battles -- begun last week, when President Bush submitted his fiscal 2008 proposal -- seems so fruitless and (yes) repetitious. Every year we hear complaints about accounting gimmicks and unrealistic assumptions. There's a ferocious crossfire of charges and countercharges. Hardly anything ever gets resolved. Budgets almost always remain in deficit (41 out of 47 years since 1960).
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The table shows the rise of the American welfare state. In 1956, defense dominated the budget; the Cold War buildup was in full swing. The welfare state, which is what "payments to individuals" signifies, was modest. Now everything is reversed. Despite the war in Iraq, defense spending is only a fifth of the budget; so-called entitlement payments to individuals are almost 60 percent -- and rising. In fiscal 2006, the federal government spent almost $2.7 trillion. Social Security ($544 billion), Medicare ($374 billion) and Medicaid ($181 billion) dominated. There was $199 billion more for payments to the poor, including the earned-income tax credit and food stamps.

Almost no one wants to slash these programs. They have huge constituencies; they're popular. Paradoxically, their invulnerability and size also protect much of the rest of the budget. Look again at the table. After payments to individuals, defense spending and interest on the debt (which must be paid), only about a seventh of the budget remains. Many of these remaining programs are widely supported. Does anyone really want to end the National Institutes of Health at $28 billion? Or how about the $41 billion we spend to support federal courts, prosecutors and police (the FBI, DEA, Border Patrol)?

Of course, some programs are wasteful, ineffective or outmoded. My favorite example is Amtrak, which serves a tiny number of passengers, is concentrated in the Northeast and costs $1.3 billion annually. But politically, ending such programs is hardly worth the trouble. The bad publicity of antagonizing aggrieved advocates -- here, railroad buffs and maybe environmentalists -- is too high for the small savings. In a nearly $3 trillion budget, even 10 Amtraks are a footnote.

The welfare state has made budgeting an exercise in futility. Both liberals and conservatives, in their own ways, peddle phony solutions. Cut waste, say conservatives. Well, network news reports of $20 million federal programs that don't work may seem -- and be -- scandalous, but like Amtrak they're usually mere blips in the total budget. For its 2008 budget, the Bush administration brags it would end or sharply reduce 141 programs. But most are microscopic; total savings would be $12 billion, or 0.4 percent of spending. Worse, Congress has previously rejected some of these cuts.

Liberals have their own cures. Cut defense, some say. Okay. In 2006, military spending (including the war in Iraq) totaled $520 billion, slightly less than Social Security. If it had been halved, the savings would have just covered the deficit ($248 billion). Little would be left for new programs. Raise taxes on the richest 1 percent, say some. Okay. The richest 1 percent pay about a quarter of all federal taxes. In 2006, that was about $600 billion. To cover the deficit would require about a 40 percent tax increase. Needless to say, neither proposal is politically plausible.

Annual budget debates are sterile -- long on rhetoric, short on action -- because each side blames the other for a situation that neither chooses to change. To cut spending significantly, conservatives would have to go after popular welfare programs, including Social Security and Medicare. To raise taxes significantly, liberals would have to go after the upper middle class, a constituency they covet (two-thirds of all federal taxes come from the richest fifth). Deficits persist, because neither side risks its popularity, and, indeed, both sides pursue popularity with new spending programs and tax breaks.

It might help if Americans called welfare programs -- current benefits for select populations, paid for by current taxes -- by their proper name, rather than by the soothing (and misleading) labels of "entitlements" and "social insurance." That way, we might ask ourselves who deserves welfare and why.

We could consider all of federal spending and not just small bits of it. But most Americans don't want to admit that they are current or prospective welfare recipients. They prefer to think that they automatically deserve whatever they've been promised simply because the promises were made. Americans do not want to pose the basic questions, and their political leaders mirror that reluctance. This makes the welfare state immovable and the budget situation intractable.

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Not to state the obvious, but welfare needs to either be seriously revamped or done away with... people living on welfare for years or even decades is simply pathetic and I for am tired of paying taxes to healthy people you simple choose to leech.
 
I agree - lets cut Social Security.

I mean, the money taken out of every paycheck for SS and Medicare - thats just general fund taxes hidden as SSI - right?

I dont think you can really compare like the graphic suggests. Its apples and oranges to a certain extent. Back then you had to send 100 bombers to do the job 1 stealth can do today. Thats like 1000 men (crew and mechanics for all 100 planes) --

Just guestimates, but that is part of things. We had to have many soldiers to get the same job done.

Welfare.... Get rid if it. Offer jobs digging ditches - or building the mexico fence or something. No free ride. Get some kind of universal healthcare and dump medicare/medicaid.
 
Joeychgo said:
I dont think you can really compare like the graphic suggests. Its apples and oranges to a certain extent. Back then you had to send 100 bombers to do the job 1 stealth can do today. Thats like 1000 men (crew and mechanics for all 100 planes)
One B-2 Spirit stealth bomber costs 1.2 billion dollars. The cost of 100 WWII B-17 Flying Fortress bombers at 300,000 each equals 30 million dollars. So 4,300 B-17 bombers could be purchased for the price of one B-2. No doubt similar huge price disparities would apply across the board between WWII/Korean War military machinery and today's tanks, ships, rifles, etc. Today, billions more is being spent on military equipment because of dramatic cost increases.

However, today a lot more money is being collected in taxes compared to the 1940s & 50s, so it might be that the current military budget is proportionately comparable to 60 years ago?
 
See thats part of the roughness in the equasions as well - you cant say a 1950s bomber cost only $300,000 because thats in 1950s dollars. Gas was like .30 a gallon or less back then too.

You also talking about the cold war. Money was being spent building things like Norad, the air defense system, the first nuclear ships, all kinds of military hardware was being developed and built for the first time. Jets were still in early development and the Korean war had just ended.
 

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