U.S. Economy more robust than in 90s.

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White House says economic surge robust
The White House says the economic surge that began five and a half years ago on President Bush's watch is more robust than the much-touted expansion during the Clinton administration.
Bill Sammon, The Examiner
Apr 8, 2007 9:38 PM
Examiner.com

WASHINGTON - The White House says the economic surge that began five and a half years ago on President Bush's watch is more robust than the much-touted expansion during the Clinton administration.

"This is a much stronger expansion in a lot of ways," White House spokesman Tony Fratto told The Examiner. "It's much deeper and more measured."

Fratto's assertion was disputed by Gene Sperling, economic adviser to presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton, who spoke to The Examiner in his capacity as former National Economic Adviser to President Bill Clinton.

"That's a rather absurd claim," said Sperling, a senior fellow at the liberal Center for American Progress. "In terms of job creation, in terms of wage growth, in terms of business investment, in terms of poverty, there's absolutely no comparison."

"The expansion during the 90s was exceptionally strong," he said. "And this has been a historically weak expansion in virtually all of those measures."

DUELING DATA POINTS

From the Bush camp:

o Real wages rose 1.8 percent over the 12 months through February. This is substantially faster than the average rate of wage growth in the late 1990s.

o Since the first quarter of 2001, productivity growth has averaged 2.8 percent. This is well above average productivity growth during the Clinton years.

From the Clinton camp:

o Under Clinton, the economy created 3.5 times more jobs after 74
months than it did over the same period of time under Bush.

o During the Bush years, the number of Americans below the poverty line has increased by 5.37 million, while under Clinton the number fell by 7.68 million.


Fratto cited last Friday's stronger-than-expected jobs report as evidence of the strength of the economy under Bush. The Labor Department reported that 180,000 new jobs were created in March and the unemployment rate fell to 4.4 percent, matching a five-year low.

"If you go back to this point in the Clinton expansion," Fratto said, "they would have loved to have seen the numbers that we have right now."

"On the unemployment rate, we're a full percentage point below where they were at the same point in the expansion - 60 or 61 months in," he said. "They would have loved to have been at 4.4 percent. They were still up in the mid-5s, which is huge, when you think about it."

Sperling conceded that "the headline on the employment rate is certainly sound."

"But if you look beneath that, at the number of people who have dropped out of the labor force, the length of unemployment period, even that is not as strong as it appears," he said.

Economist Larry Kudlow said the Clinton and Bush expansions "each have their minuses and pluses."

"Every expansion has a little different coloration," he said. "The Clinton years were colored by the technology boom and the dot-com boom, which ultimately produced a bubble that burst. The Bush years were colored by the tremendous housing boom from the Greenspan interest rates, and we're undergoing some kind of a bubble bursting right now."

Kudlow said neither Bush nor Clinton have fundamentally transformed the U.S. economy in the way that former President Reagan did a quarter century ago. He credited Reagan's economic reforms for growth in the Gross Domestic Product in 93 of the last 98 quarters.

"Since the early Reagan years, we have had 25 years of virtually uninterrupted prosperity," Kudlow said. "Because of the Reagan reforms - the deregulation, the lower taxes, the disinflation - we have transformed the economy from a top-down, government-run operation into a free market, capitalist economy with durability and resilience."
 
Glad to hear a trusted source like the White House says things are going great. We can all rest soundly now.

Since the search function on this forum seems to be complete sh1t, I can't find what I was looking for, but I could swear that there was a thread talking about a possible coming recession, and some of you were downplaying the importance of government policy as it affects the economy. I don't pretend to be an economic expert like some of you do, but I've always had the sneaking suspicion that the economy pretty much goes through its own cycles, independent of any government interference. For example, Clinton might have been in the white house during the 90's boom, but I don't credit him with having much to do with it. Same with Bush, good or bad.

As for the rosey pictures, I just have two things to bring up, both related to each other:

A potential housing market crash of epic proportions.
Unsustainable consumer debt.


Oh, and neither of those I blame on Bush per se. Although so-called "business-friendly" policies (deregulation) has directly allowed these things to happen.
 
"The White House says"

The White House also said we had to go to war to elimite all the WMD and the Al Qaida/Saddam Connection.

The White House also said it was prepared to handle Katrina.

The White House also says things are going great in Iraq.

Enough said... Have a nice day.
 
"The White House says"

The White House also said we had to go to war to elimite all the WMD and the Al Qaida/Saddam Connection.

The White House also said it was prepared to handle Katrina.

The White House also says things are going great in Iraq.

Enough said... Have a nice day.
I didn't think you would give the President credit. :rolleyes:
 
Glad to hear a trusted source like the White House says things are going great. We can all rest soundly now.
The facts are available for you to view and make your own decision. The White House has to make these statements because the mainstream media is unwilling to report any stories that might reflect positively on the administration.

but I could swear that there was a thread talking about a possible coming recession, and some of you were downplaying the importance of government policy as it affects the economy.
Entirely separate issue. A positive economy right now and robust growth right now doesn't mean a recession is impossible.

And I would agree that the PRESIDENT has limited ability to influence the economy (the "government" has tremendous influence on the economy), but he can influence it through the tax policy he advocates. Bush's tax cuts have been hugely positive for this economy.


I don't pretend to be an economic expert like some of you do, but I've always had the sneaking suspicion that the economy pretty much goes through its own cycles, independent of any government interference.
The economy does work in cycles, but government policy can hugely influence it, usually negatively. The cycles are often unavoidable, but the depth of the recession or the length of the period of growth can be influenced.

For example, Clinton might have been in the white house during the 90's boom, but I don't credit him with having much to do with it. Same with Bush, good or bad.
Clinton didn't have anything to do with the boom in the 90s, if anything he had a negative influence on it by raising taxes during his first term. The economy was in recovery before he came into office.

Clinton didn't do very much regarding the economy, and positives didn't take place until the Republicans forced him to do so after the '94 elections.

Bush, to the contrary, has experienced nothing but challenges. The economy was slipping into recession when he took office, then the 9/11 attacks, and then the WallStreet scandals. But, Bush did get substantial tax cuts passed that have resulted in hugely positive economic results.

As for the rosey pictures, I just have two things to bring up, both related to each other:

A potential housing market crash of epic proportions.
Unsustainable consumer debt.


Oh, and neither of those I blame on Bush per se. Although so-called "business-friendly" policies (deregulation) has directly allowed these things to happen.
And which "business-friendly" policies caused people to buy more house than they could afford? Why not just mention some other unrelated things like "Childhood Obesity" and blame Bush for that too?

Fact is, the Bush economy is as strong, if not stronger, than the "Clinton Boom" years that everyone in the press heralds. Despite this, no one in the press is repeating this story. Low tax rates and deregulation have been hugely positive for our country.
 

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