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Did you guys see the full page ad some organization took in the USA Today?

A friend of mine showed it to me. It's a nice time line on the whole housing crash deal, how it started with Carter, then Clinton doubled down on it, etc etc. Also talks about Cap and Trade, and lots other stuff. I'll see about picking up today's copy and scanning it.

Good read. I was a little surprised to see it in a left leaning publication though.
 
Did you guys see the full page ad some organization took in the USA Today?

A friend of mine showed it to me. It's a nice time line on the whole housing crash deal, how it started with Carter, then Clinton doubled down on it, etc etc. Also talks about Cap and Trade, and lots other stuff. I'll see about picking up today's copy and scanning it.

Good read. I was a little surprised to see it in a left leaning publication though.
Did not see it. I hope there's a web version.
 
Well... I just scanned that page, and here it is. I overlapped the scans a bit, but shouldn't be too hard to make out what it says.

Anyone want the .PDF copies of the scan (much, much clearer), pm me.

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great post!!

Cuts through the distortion and lies by the left on this...
 
Before you get too involved with blaiming Carter for the housing mess, perhaps you should read that bill, and just what it did stipulate, and what it didn't.
Looks to me the bill authorized banks and financial institutions to stop the practice of redlining which meant they could no longer discriminate against low income neighborhoods where they possibly do some sort of business.
No where does it say the banks MUST make loans available to people who may not be qualified, in fact it states the oposite.
The words "safe and sound operations" sums it up pretty good.
The banks should observe these safe and sound operations when considering loans.
It also goes on to say, these activities shoul be handled in a "safe and sound manner", and the law does not authorize banks to make high risk loans.
That doesn't sound much like it was an all out plan to give loans to unqualified people.
That the banks did on their own so, blaiming Carter for the mess is an excersize in frutality.
Just because USA today wanted to spin their view on it, does not make it so.
Read the bill, then decide.


"The Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 seeks to address discrimination in loans made to individuals and businesses from low and moderate-income neighborhoods.[7] The Act mandates that all banking institutions that receive FDIC insurance be evaluated by Federal banking agencies to determine if the bank offers credit (in a manner consistent with safe and sound operations) in all communities in which the bank takes deposits.[3] The law does not list specific criteria for evaluating the performance of financial institutions. Rather, it directs that the evaluation process should accommodate the situation and context of each individual institution. Federal regulations dictate agency conduct in evaluating a bank's compliance in five performance areas, comprising twelve assessment factors. This examination culminates in a rating and a written report that becomes part of the supervisory record for that bank.[8]

The law, however, emphasizes that an institution's CRA activities should be undertaken in a safe and sound manner, and does not require institutions to make high-risk loans that may bring losses to the institution.[3][4] An institution's CRA compliance record is taken into account by the banking regulatory agencies when the institution seeks to expand through merger, acquisition or branching. The law does not mandate any other penalties for non-compliance with the CRA.[6][9]"
Bob.
 
Just because USA today wanted to spin their view on it, does not make it so.

Bob, you need to remember the USA Today item is an ad... it isn't editorial. The newspaper carries no responsibility for the accuracy or lack thereof for their advertisers.

If they bought straight card price - Friday run - $146,000 single purchase, national, B&W...
 
Before you get too involved with blaiming Carter for the housing mess, perhaps you should read that bill, and just what it did stipulate, and what it didn't.

You do realize that bill was changed and strengthened in the 1990's. As it was created in the 1970's, it only set the stage for what was to come. In fact that bill was a foolish national level reaction to what was essentially a local level problem brought on by foolish local government policies. I will go into more detail later. Gotta run now...
 
Before you get too involved with blaiming Carter for the housing mess, perhaps you should read that bill, and just what it did stipulate, and what it didn't.
Looks to me the bill authorized banks and financial institutions to stop the practice of redlining which meant they could no longer discriminate against low income neighborhoods where they possibly do some sort of business.
No where does it say the banks MUST make loans available to people who may not be qualified, in fact it states the oposite.
The words "safe and sound operations" sums it up pretty good.
The banks should observe these safe and sound operations when considering loans.
It also goes on to say, these activities shoul be handled in a "safe and sound manner", and the law does not authorize banks to make high risk loans.
That doesn't sound much like it was an all out plan to give loans to unqualified people.
That the banks did on their own so, blaiming Carter for the mess is an excersize in frutality.
Just because USA today wanted to spin their view on it, does not make it so.
Read the bill, then decide.


"The Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 seeks to address discrimination in loans made to individuals and businesses from low and moderate-income neighborhoods.[7] The Act mandates that all banking institutions that receive FDIC insurance be evaluated by Federal banking agencies to determine if the bank offers credit (in a manner consistent with safe and sound operations) in all communities in which the bank takes deposits.[3] The law does not list specific criteria for evaluating the performance of financial institutions. Rather, it directs that the evaluation process should accommodate the situation and context of each individual institution. Federal regulations dictate agency conduct in evaluating a bank's compliance in five performance areas, comprising twelve assessment factors. This examination culminates in a rating and a written report that becomes part of the supervisory record for that bank.[8]

The law, however, emphasizes that an institution's CRA activities should be undertaken in a safe and sound manner, and does not require institutions to make high-risk loans that may bring losses to the institution.[3][4] An institution's CRA compliance record is taken into account by the banking regulatory agencies when the institution seeks to expand through merger, acquisition or branching. The law does not mandate any other penalties for non-compliance with the CRA.[6][9]"
Bob.
Bob, I've already posted a NYT article in this forum that PROVES that the Clinton administration PRESSURED banks to lend to people who could not pay back their mortgages. And no, fox, it's not an ad.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act#Legislative_changes_1992

This makes for a very interesting read.
On one hand the federal government is saying to the financial institutions, we will make it easier for you to grant loans to low income people but, you must use restraint in issueing those loans.
What I am getting from all this is, the government, through legislation, allowed for the banks to set up subsidearies to doal out these low income loans, and because the banking industry was a greedy consortium, they went overboard in lending to those they should have not been qualifying.
Greed, fed by federal regulation.
I stll don't blame Carter but, the Clinton administration was most prominent in the enactment of the banking crisis.
The majority of the blame has to be aimed at the greedy banking business.
There is an old saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but yoiu can't make it drink".
The water was already there in the form of legislative changes, placed by G.H.W.Bush, and further supplied by the Clinton group.
The banking industry (in this case, the horse) was led to the legislative troth of banking reform, only to take a giant gulp of incredible greed, in the form of under qualified loans to low income people.
Bob.
 
Looks to me the bill authorized banks and financial institutions to stop the practice of redlining which meant they could no longer discriminate against low income neighborhoods where they possibly do some sort of business.
No where does it say the banks MUST make loans available to people who may not be qualified, in fact it states the oposite.

Bob... the new Democrat.

Man, did you strike your head on the pavement or what?
And I might add clueless to what actually caused the housing collapse.

All hail Obama. Bob's savior to all of our problems.
 
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I sent The Better Government Association a check for $100,000. The ad said it was tax deductible. Oh wait, it didn't? Somebody get my check back!
 
Point of clarification - when I said 'no, fox, it's not an ad' - I was referring to the NYT article, not this ad.
 
I searched in the forums for the NYT article and can't find it - got the link Foss?
 

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