Want to Drive 90 in Nevada? Buy a Pass

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Want to Drive 90 in Nevada? Buy a Pass

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/09/want-to-drive-90-in-nevada-buy-a-pass/?hpw

To an informed political eye, the independent Nevada gubernatorial candidate Eugene DiSimone’s platform is one part Tea Party and one part nativist. He wants to deport undocumented immigrants and make state documents available in English only. He complains about lawyers and judges, who, as he said in a telephone interview, “litigate and govern our society away when what we want is freedom and commerce.”
Above all, he advocates that Nevadans “wean themselves off the federal government.” To encourage this, he proposes a novel measure that bypasses partisan ideologies.

In what Mr. DiSimone called his Free Limit Plan, he would give Nevadans and nonresidents the option to drive up to 90 miles an hour on state roads. The privilege would cost $25 a day and would conservatively generate more than $1 billion a year in new state revenue, he said.
“A year ago, when I put this plan together, every time I saw a highway patrol by the roadside, I’d pull over and ask them about it,” he said. “I stopped counting around 27 or 28 conversations, and based on what they told me, I estimate about 30 to 40 percent of drivers would be interested in doing it.”

Vehicles driven in the plan would need an annual safety inspection, which is currently not required in Nevada. Pending approval, a driver would be registered in a database and receive a transponder that, when intercepted by a highway patrol’s radar gun, would relay the driver’s participation in the plan, thereby sparing the driver a ticket and the officer a traffic stop. The vehicle’s transponder signal must also square with the vehicle’s license plate, which would also be relayed to the officer. (Drivers would be charged the $25 fee after calling a central number to state their intentions to exercise the 90 m.p.h. speed privilege during that 24-hour period.)

Mr. DiSimone sees a boon not only to the state’s depleted finances, but to private industry. “For processing out-of-state drivers, we’d have contractors set up stations at our border-highway intersections, which creates good construction jobs, plus the transponders have to be designed and built here in Nevada, and the safety inspections give a shot in the arm of the automotive shops,” he said.

He added, “There are a lot of auxiliary benefits to this.”
Nevada, Mr. DiSimone said, instituted speed limits in the 1970s because of the oil embargo. He said he believed that would not have happened if the state were not in hock to the federal government. “The state was compelled to accept them by the federal government, who could’ve withheld the highway funds, so the state posted them,” he said.
Initial feedback to Mr. DiSimone’s plan was favorable, but soured when elderly Nevadans were asked their impressions by the local media.

“Suddenly, the phone calls we were getting went from ‘You guys are doing the right thing,’ and ‘You’ve got my vote,’ to ‘You’re going to cause more vehicular deaths, even though the data doesn’t bear that out,” he said.

Despite the skepticism, Mr. DiSimone said his plan was winning fans beyond Nevada.

“I just did a radio program up in Seattle, and people wanted to know whether I could work with their legislators to make this happen,” he said. “There’s a gubernatorial candidate out in California that is going to put it on her platform. Most states can architect something similar that satisfies the driving conditions within their state.”

Drivers who do not participate in the plan but still drive 90 miles an hour would face stiff fines, Mr. DiSimone said.

“The ticket structure will be $250 for the first offense, $500 for the next, $1,000 for the one after that,” he said. “People are going to realize pretty quickly that $25 per day is a lot cheaper than all these tickets.”

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Finally a politician headed in the right direction :D

Now if we could only fine the Clogs driving in the left lane with a big row of cars following too close behind them we'de get somewhere.
 
That proposal has to be the stupidest thing I have ever read.
It makes me wonder how someone driving 90 miles an hour would react when they come up on someone driving the normal speed limit.
Any idea how many yards it would take to bring a car going 90 miles an hour, under control to avoid smashing into the vehicle doing the normal speed limit?
Disaster in the making.
Bob.
 
Meh
They should let everybody drive at 90 through the desert.
That's the speed most people would drive on thinly traveled roads
if not bothered by troopers buzzing out of nowhere.
The limit in some places is 80 mph once you get west of Wisconsin
so everybody's driving 90 already.
I remember driving a near constant 90 in a small van for 8-10 hrs
from Campbelford NB(near Maine) to Toronto some of it following a cube van.
I think I saw maybe 1 or 2 cops all the way and it was a pleasure.
 
That proposal has to be the stupidest thing I have ever read.
It makes me wonder how someone driving 90 miles an hour would react when they come up on someone driving the normal speed limit.
Any idea how many yards it would take to bring a car going 90 miles an hour, under control to avoid smashing into the vehicle doing the normal speed limit?
Disaster in the making.
Bob.
I've lived in Europe where you drive on the Autobahn. 90 is Grandma driving.

I've done 120 in a Mercedes in the left lane and still the Porsches and BMWs zoom right up on your ass flashing their high beams for you to get the hell out of their way. People get used to it.

Also, keep in mind that most of our roads and interstates were designed in the 50s and 60s for cars with that era's level of technology. Today's vehicles have no trouble negotiating the gradual curves and turns at much higher speeds.
 
The LS is an autobahn eurocar that can cruise at 120 all day no problem although it's best to slow down to 90 when passing the clogs on the right:D

You wouldn't think so but if you come up to pass on people too quickly they can jump in front of you
and you have to dive for the shoulder:(
 
I like the LS. Hell, I'd always rent them when I'd be in a town with no personal transportation. If it didn't have 4 doors, I'd own one.

As such, I'm not trying to offend any of you LS crowd.

The LS may have been built to compete with BMW's and Mercs in it's class, but a true Autobahn Euro car, it ain't. 120MPH in an LS is far from 120 in say, a Mercedes. The Mercs and Beemers are a lot more "civilized" at 120 than an LS. Yes, I've had LS's and Mercs to 110. I say 110 because that's the fastest I've taken an LS to. Once you do 110 in a comparable Mercedes for extended periods of time, you'll understand what I mean.

It has a lot better road feedback, it's quieter, it has more power on tap, and it just rides differently.
 
I've had mine up to 130 a few times on a straight stretch and it feels perfectly civilized.
But I now rarely break 100 on a favorite known road around here.
My speedo reads 5 mph fast at 100 compared to the GPS showing 95.

The autobahn is built much thicker and maintained more carefully than american roads designed for 65-70 with 1955 engineered cars. The autobahn has better banking plus it's a lot harder to get a license in Germany.

For american roads the LS with it's independant suspension is so much smoother and silky at speed than previous cars I've owned in the past.
 
Did I forget to mention that I was in Europe in 1992 and my Mercedes was a 1977, and could do 120 without a rumble?
 
I've lived in Europe where you drive on the Autobahn. 90 is Grandma driving.

I've done 120 in a Mercedes in the left lane and still the Porsches and BMWs zoom right up on your ass flashing their high beams for you to get the hell out of their way. People get used to it.

Also, keep in mind that most of our roads and interstates were designed in the 50s and 60s for cars with that era's level of technology. Today's vehicles have no trouble negotiating the gradual curves and turns at much higher speeds.

The roads in Nevada are not the autobahn, and the drivers are a far cry from what drives the autobahn.
You said it yourself, the roads here were designed for the era they were built.
Going 90 when someone else is doing 55 or 60, or even 70 is pure suicide.
Just because you have driven in a foreign country where people are use to that speed, doesn't mean it could be handled very well in Nevada because the majority of drivers on the road aren't doing 90, and it would be a recipe for disaster.
Bob.
 
Most of those desert roads in NV are straight. You can see for miles on them. Most are relatively smooth. They're no AB smooth by any means, but are smooth enough.

The Eisenhower freeway system was designed way back with vehicles doing 100mph in mind. They are strong enough to be able to support heavy military machinery on them: tanks, airplanes landing and taking off, etc. As such, last time, I checked (and correct me if I'm wrong, my math skills suck), 90MPH is 10 MPH less than 100MPH. Right?

Also, your premise that the majority of drivers in NV won't be doing 90 is almost correct. They usually, currently, do 80.

Look, it's simple: If someone wants to do 90mph on a straight road and pays the extra fee, why not let them? The state makes some extra cash that the rest of the people don't have to pay for.

I do remember when the 55mph national freeway limit was raised and all the naysayers were predicting doom and gloom, because people weren't used to 75+ MPH.

Ok. Time for coffee.
 
The roads in Nevada are not the autobahn, and the drivers are a far cry from what drives the autobahn.
Have you ever driven the autobahn? It's no different than an interstate in the desert. I've been there.

You said it yourself, the roads here were designed for the era they were built.
Going 90 when someone else is doing 55 or 60, or even 70 is pure suicide.
Talk about completely getting somebody's point backwards...:rolleyes:

The point is that the roads are more forgiving than our current cars need them to be - thus, it's not necessary to limit speed in straightaways like that.
Just because you have driven in a foreign country where people are use to that speed, doesn't mean it could be handled very well in Nevada because the majority of drivers on the road aren't doing 90, and it would be a recipe for disaster.
Bob.
I've done 90 on winding roads in Kentucky. 90 is NOTHING, especially on desert straightaways. You sound like a man with a paper nose. We all know that you are a tyrant at heart, Bob. Keep your statist, nanny policies and go start your own country. You'll be a nation of one.

And just because you assert something trite and glib like 'recipe for disaster' doesn't mean you know squat about this subject.
 
Have you ever driven the autobahn? It's no different than an interstate in the desert. I've been there.


Talk about completely getting somebody's point backwards...:rolleyes:

The point is that the roads are more forgiving than our current cars need them to be - thus, it's not necessary to limit speed in straightaways like that.
I've done 90 on winding roads in Kentucky. 90 is NOTHING, especially on desert straightaways. You sound like a man with a paper nose. We all know that you are a tyrant at heart, Bob. Keep your statist, nanny policies and go start your own country. You'll be a nation of one.

And just because you assert something trite and glib like 'recipe for disaster' doesn't mean you know squat about this subject.


It is just common sense.
You take some jerk driving 90 mph, and suddenly comes up on someone doing the normal speed limit, and someone is gonna die.
 
It is just common sense.
You take some jerk driving 90 mph, and suddenly comes up on someone doing the normal speed limit, and someone is gonna die.
There are multiple lanes. Normally people who want to drive slowly stay in the right lane.

You're telling me that somebody going 90 on a straight highway won't see somebody ahead of them in time to slow down? What the hell kind of brakes do you have in your car? :bowrofl:

Hell, the speed limits in most states are already 70, with most people in the left lane going at least 75 or 80. Your argument is absurd.
 
There are multiple lanes. Normally people who want to drive slowly stay in the right lane.

You're telling me that somebody going 90 on a straight highway won't see somebody ahead of them in time to slow down? What the hell kind of brakes do you have in your car? :bowrofl:

Hell, the speed limits in most states are already 70, with most people in the left lane going at least 75 or 80. Your argument is absurd.


Tell you what Foss,
I'll let the insurance institute for highway safety explain it too you.
http://www.iihs.org/research/qanda/speed_limits.html
When you reach the page, click on the first question.
Bob.
 
It is just common sense.
You take some jerk driving 90 mph, and suddenly comes up on someone doing the normal speed limit, and someone is gonna die.


Well maybe in the obsolete "boats" like the one's in your sig I wouldn't want to be passing people at 100.
 
What do you expect these people to say.
Basically they're saying most drivers are essentially inept to go fast and as such the slower they go the better.

Again, it is just common sense.

Oh, and by the way, I would put my thunderbird up against any LS to compare quality of workmanship, ride, style,and eye appeal.
Sure, it isn't going to be that same in the performance catogory, but in everything else, it leaves the LS way behind.
Bob.
 
I like some of the old cars and the Tbirds were pretty nice.
The 60's cars were good before the quality sank in the 70's.
 
Again, it is just common sense.

Oh, and by the way, I would put my thunderbird up against any LS to compare quality of workmanship, ride, style,and eye appeal.
Sure, it isn't going to be that same in the performance catogory, but in everything else, it leaves the LS way behind.
Bob.

Because style and eye appeal are so important at 90... :rolleyes:

:D
 
Because style and eye appeal are so important at 90... :rolleyes:

:D


Frog, you missed the point.
I was replying to this sentence.."Well maybe in the obsolete "boats" like the one's in your sig I wouldn't want to be passing people at 100."
The Lincoln in my sig could definitely be called a boat, buy my Thunderbird is about as far from that description as one could get.
Bob.
 

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