Washington's Toyota U-Turn

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Washington's Toyota U-Turn
by Kimberley Strassel

That vague screeching noise you hear in D.C., the slight odor of burning rubber? That's the government trying to brake its anti-Toyota campaign. It may be a little late.

The Toyota spectacle has become slightly surreal, as a few uncertain questions about "sudden acceleration" morphed into a media and political firestorm over the safety of its entire fleet. It is also proving an interesting case study in the treacherous politics that accompany government ownership of U.S. industry. Washington's initial enthusiasm in bashing Toyota is beginning to backfire.

There's no question that in the first, heady days of recall, at least some in the Obama administration and Congress saw advantage in undermining Toyota. The majority owner of Government Motors felt it couldn't hurt to fan the image of a "foreign" auto maker disregarding the safety of American drivers. Shoppers might just buy a Chevy instead, propping up government investment and bolstering United Auto Worker union jobs. And of course the trial bar would be thrilled by a fat new class-action target.

Vehicle recalls (there were 16.9 million in 2009 alone) are usually handled by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration—but the Toyota case was commandeered by Obama Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood. He skewered the firm for being "a little safety deaf," complained it hadn't been responsive, and bragged it was the government that forced a recall.

"This is a big deal, this is a big safety issue," he exclaimed as part of the LaHood Vs. Toyota Media Tour. It was, in fact, the "most serious safety issue" of his tenure. It was, to repeat, such a huge, scary, safety deal that his "advice is, if anybody owns one of these vehicles, stop driving it." Mr. LaHood later claimed he'd misspoke.

Over in Congress, a geographically notable contingent of representatives piled on. Rep. Bart Stupak (D., Mich.) announced an investigation into "dangerous" malfunctions. Toyota was ordered to report to his Oversight subcommittee hearing next week. Rep. John Dingell (D., Mich.) berated the company for taking "two years" to step up and ripped them for not recalling more models.

UAW lobbyist Alan Reuther demanded Toyota make amends by keeping open a unionized factory in California, currently scheduled for closure. Chrysler, GM and Ford started offering cash incentives for car buyers to trade in recalled Toyotas for domestic wares.

The results of this campaign are now making pols queasy. It was inevitable that such a loud attack would lead to questions as to whether the administration was carrying water for the domestic industry. The White House is today fielding as many queries about its role as owner and regulator as Toyota is fielding about recalls.

This thinking also inspired reporters to dig into Congress's Toyota ties and to question, conversely, whether it can be tough enough. The press dredged up Senate Toyota investigator Jay Rockefeller's role in landing his state of West Virginia a Toyota plant. Did you know, the head of NHTSA, David Strickland, worked eight years for Mr. Rockefeller? Or that California Democrat Jane Harman, who sits on the House investigating committee, once made money selling stereo systems to Toyota? You do now.

It is also occurring to some Democrats that, while Toyotas are mainly assembled in red states, they are, uh, sold in blue ones. In addition to idled Toyota factory workers, Toyota dealerships and suppliers are getting hit by the company's sharp drop in sales. Some of these folks even live in Michigan.

The angry phone calls to Washington only increased last week when four governors—three Republicans and Kentucky Democrat Steve Beshear—sent a sharp letter to Congress, accusing the administration of a "conflict of interest." They unsubtly noted that many recent recalls were "as serious as or more serious" than Toyota's.

This sent the media digging into the recall record of U.S. auto makers, which may have to revisit their own safety issues. Some politicians are worried about Japanese retaliation against U.S. auto makers.

All of which accounts for Washington's recent piping down. Mr. LaHood devoted a lot of this week to touting stimulus grants. Quite a few Democrats have gone mute, leaving the issue to NHTSA and wishing it would go away. Some lawmakers are even stepping up to defend Toyota.

Yet having revved up the drama, the administration is now all but obliged to take action against Toyota, say with civil penalties. Mr. Rockefeller and other Democrats with ties to the carmaker are under pressure to get rough. And if Toyota bungles Washington as badly as it did the initial recall PR, this could go on a long time.

Toyota has not yet laid off a single one of its 34,000 U.S. workers, but that may change. Only a year ago, Democrats were wailing about economic damage if GM or Chrysler went bust. They forestalled that with government ownership. They, and Toyota, are now dealing with the all-too-easy-to-predict political behavior that followed such meddling in the private economy.
 
Obama is the de facto owner of GM, so he's going after Toyota. Adding in the non-union nature of Toyota and the thug mindset of the Obama Administration, it all makes sense.
 
I think that, more than anything, it is just another example of the inexperience of these administrators in dealing with problems that have complicated issues. This 'bull in a china shop' mentality keeps getting this country in trouble. I said it when this guy was running-he was a State Senator, what, about 3-4 years ago? He voted 'present' as much or more than when he actually took a stand on issues before him as a Senator from Illinois. Even Jimmy Carter had executive experience prior to becoming President, albeit as Gov. of Georgia.

I can only hope this country has the sense to change the balance of power in Congress in 9+ months, and then we have good choices in 2012, especially at the top of the tickets. I cannot imagine this country with Obama as a lame duck and a majority in Congress, it might make December 21, 2012 a blessing in disguise if there is anything to it.:eek:
 
This has led to the "toyota defense" in court now. There is a Hmong man that is tryin to get a new trial becuase his 96 corolla (or camry whatever) did something simliar and he was convicted of vehicular manslaughter x2.
 
Toyota brought this upon themselves by not putting enough redundancy into their throttle by wire systems.
Oh, they're great cars except for this 1 in 10,000 flaw.
Runaway car is a defect an order of magnitude higher the typical recall item.
No other manufacturers electric throttles are malfunctioning this way.
The Gen 2's have throttle by wire and no one here has reported anything like this.
So the US car companies catch a break and are exploiting it.

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Toyota brought this upon themselves by not putting enough redundancy into their throttle by wire systems.
Oh, they're great cars except for this 1 in 10,000 flaw.
Runaway car is a defect an order of magnitude higher the typical recall item.
No other manufacturers electric throttles are malfunctioning this way.
The Gen 2's have throttle by wire and no one here has reported anything like this.
So the US car companies catch a break and are exploiting it.
You've never read "Debt of Honor," have you?
 
Toyota brought this upon themselves by not putting enough redundancy into their throttle by wire systems.
Oh, they're great cars except for this 1 in 10,000 flaw.
Runaway car is a defect an order of magnitude higher the typical recall item.
No other manufacturers electric throttles are malfunctioning this way.
The Gen 2's have throttle by wire and no one here has reported anything like this.
So the US car companies catch a break and are exploiting it.

Yeah, SCREW big business for exploiting the little guy, eh comrade?

the fact of the matter is that there is a HUGE amount of hyperbole and disinformation involved in this (which you are echoing) as well as a MASSIVE conflict of interest with the government. Maybe you should take a step back and research this a bit...
 
Yeah, SCREW big business for exploiting the little guy, eh comrade?

the fact of the matter is that there is a HUGE amount of hyperbole and disinformation involved in this (which you are echoing) as well as a MASSIVE conflict of interest with the government. Maybe you should take a step back and research this a bit...

Huh?
So to you big business exploitation of consumers is a good thing.:rolleyes:
The conflict of interest is a mere coincidence of timing.
You're obviously a corporatist before you are a patriot with your profits more important than people philosophy.
Americans love getting all worked up about miniscule albeit dramatic threats
like terrorism for instance.
This fits in nicely with that. No stiff upper lip here.

Ever since Toyota switched to throttle by wire in 2002 there have been numerous reports by consumers of unintended acceleration in Toyota vehicles.

So studious one what is the hyperbole and disinformation that you speak of.
Toyota itself has admitted that they're not sure if their fixes will work for all instances.
I guess we'll see as time goes by.

A one in 10,000 occurence translates into 1000 occurences per 10 million cars
which is more than just annecdotal.
Real people have experienced this dangerous problem some more than once.
 
Huh?
So to you big business exploitation of consumers is a good thing.:rolleyes:
The conflict of interest is a mere coincidence of timing.
You're obviously a corporatist before you are a patriot with your profits more important than people philosophy.
BEEP BEEP BEEP...STRAW MAN ALERT...BEEP BEEP BEEP...
 
You've never read "Debt of Honor," have you?

Japanese Jihadists crashing 747's into Washington?

That's a mountain to molehill comparison.

A Tom Clancy potboiler is more exciting than real life.

I think reaching this conclusion from current events is getting carried away.
 
Japanese Jihadists crashing 747's into Washington?

That's a mountain to molehill comparison.

A Tom Clancy potboiler is more exciting than real life.

I think reaching this conclusion from current events is getting carried away.
You just missed the point. Do you remember how the book started?
 
Huh?
So to you big business exploitation of consumers is a good thing.:rolleyes:

Yeah, that's clearly what I was saying... :rolleyes:
The conflict of interest is a mere coincidence of timing.

It looks to be a lot more then that.

So, you will dismiss the idea of a conflict of interest with the government owning GM and Chrysler without consideration, but jump down Toyota's throat without checking the facts. It is interesting how inconsistently you apply the burden of proof here...

You're obviously a corporatist before you are a patriot with your profits more important than people philosophy.

A false dichotomy is a dichotomy that is not jointly exhaustive (there are other alternatives), or that is not mutually exclusive (the alternatives overlap), or that is possibly neither.

The benefits society as a whole receives from a business competing honestly in a free market are incalculable. As Milton Friedman famously said:
There is one and only one social responsibility of business — to use its resources and engage in activities designed to increase its profits so long as it stays within the rules of the game, which is to say, engages in open and free competition without deception or fraud.

A one in 10,000 occurrence translates into 1000 occurrences per 10 million cars
which is more than just anecdotal.
Real people have experienced this dangerous problem some more than once.

1 in 10,000 = 0.01%.

Also, it is not as if the problem suddenly manifests itself as dangerous acceleration. It gradually leads to that if accelerator problems are not noticed first by driver over a long period of time. The accelerator will start to stick first and gradually get worse.

When you cut through the hyperbole, it doesn't look to be as dangerous a problem as you are exaggerating it to be.
 
An Orchestrated Campaign Against Toyota in Overdrive?
February 25, 2010 - by Tom Blumer

On Sunday, Toyota learned what it was like to be one of Detroit’s Big Three in the days before they hit upon hard times and Uncle Sam formally entered the car business.

Some are treating what Toyota is going through in its fight to deal with the gas pedal- and floormat-related sudden acceleration issues raised by consumers and the government as a bit of a justifiable payback. After all, they argue, the company received kid-glove treatment from car quality reviewers for so many years, perhaps well after they truly deserved it.

To a small degree, they may have a point. Even before Japanese transplants Honda, Toyota, and Nissan began making cars in the U.S., there seemed to be a bias against Big Three cars in magazines like Consumer Reports. Prodded largely by its Japanese competitors, Detroit had left the worst of its quality problems behind by the mid-1980s and generally began making very good cars, while quality reviewers occasionally seemed a bit over-enamored with foreign makers, particularly Honda and Toyota — companies which, despite their own very large size, were somehow perceived as underdogs to the big, bad Big Three.

I believe that Detroit has significantly narrowed the quality differences between its and others’ output to the point where in most cases it lags by so little that it’s virtually unimportant. However, the public’s perceived quality difference between Detroit and foreign makers, even of foreign makers’ U.S.-manufactured models, is far wider than it should be.

But one of the big reasons for that perception gap has to do with how the hard-news press, with substantial assistance from the plaintiffs’ bar, treated the Big Three during previous decades.

Yes, to name just a few examples, Ford Pintos had serious problems with exploding gas tanks. Yes, GM equipped some of its vehicles with transmissions that turned out to be suitable only for the flattest of terrains, and a few of its cars and trucks would pop into drive while idling. Yet as much as the tort bar would like to convince pliable juries that big companies, except for their unwillingness to spend a little money, can achieve perfection with every product that comes off the assembly line, it just isn’t so.

The legal and media narratives in many of the lawsuits that arose from these and other matters almost inevitably morphed from “the company made a serious mistake and should pay for it” to “this evil company and its evil executives were perfectly okay with seeing people continue to die, so they need to be sent a message and empty their coffers as punishment.” Meanwhile, at least until the late 1990s, trial lawyers tended to leave foreign makers alone, at least partially because U.S. CEOs supposedly imbued with excessive capitalist greed made better targets for sympathetic jury verdicts than supposedly less corrupt and more accommodating foreigners.

But going after the Big Three, or at least two of them, isn’t what it used to be. During the last half of the decade, the financial viability of each was often in serious question. Now that the government has effective control of GM and Chrysler, any trial lawyer trying to go after either now knows that he or she will be facing a defendant backed by potentially unlimited resources and with lots of potential dirty tricks up its sleeve — tricks that it didn’t hesitate to use during the two companies’ respective encounters with bankruptcy.

Thus, that Toyota would eventually become a target of choice is not surprising.

Let’s be clear: If the company is proven to have seriously erred and knowingly compromised driver and public safety, it should be made to pay an appropriate price. The developments of the past weekend, though, seem much more sinister, supporting the idea that the goal of many critics is really to drive the company’s public perception, and perhaps the company itself, into the ground.

On Sunday, the Detroit News “somehow” got its hands on an internal company presentation from June 2009 that had been handed over to congressional investigators. The News’ David Shepardson, who seems not to have even recognized that the 10 pages he received did not comprise the entire presentation (uh, the broken page number sequence of the documents sort of gave that away, Dave), reported that the presentation’s sterile wording somehow shows that the company had “bragged” about saving money on recall costs. The Associated Press’s Ken Thomas, whose go-to word was “boasted,” picked up on that theme with amazing speed. By late Sunday, the theme had become a meme in the establishment press.

There’s only one problem, which anyone familiar with Japanese culture would recognize: it frowns so harshly on bragging that it almost never happens. If you’re an American making a presentation to a Japanese executive, which was the situation in this case, you don’t brag either — at least if you think you have a future with the company. Even the word “win,” which was employed several times and which Shepardson and Thomas relied on as evidence of gloating, only means “favorable development” — and most certainly not “victory” — to the Japanese.

Monday brought news that Toyota’s government and activist opponents are piling on to a degree the Big Three may never have experienced, as “federal prosecutors have launched a criminal investigation into the company’s safety problems and the Securities and Exchange Commission was probing what the automaker told investors.” I don’t recall any Big Three executive or employee being subjected to a criminal trial relating to a product liability problem, but that possibility now appears to loom at Toyota — just in time to rattle its executives ahead of their congressional testimony.

Finally, it’s more than a little interesting that Department of Transportation spokesperson Olivia Alair was available on Sunday night to tell the press that the Toyota presentation in question was a “very telling” indicator that the company might be placing its bottom line ahead of safety. What’s really “telling” about the kind of people Toyota faces is that as Barack Obama’s Ohio campaign director in 2008, Alair registered to vote in the Buckeye State even though she doesn’t live there, and was apparently ready to cast an election ballot until a county prosecutor threatened to drop felony charges on her and 12 other Obama campaign workers.

I do hope that the folks at Toyota fully appreciate the ugliness they’re up against.
 
You just missed the point. Do you remember how the book started?

On Interstate 40 in Eastern Tennessee, a car accident involving a tractor-trailer and two Japanese-made cars results in the deaths of six people (2 adults, 2 teenagers, a toddler, and an infant). The accident involves the failure of both fuel tanks in the Japanese cars, which causes an explosion. It is revealed that the Japanese-made fuel tanks were manufactured below proper safety standards, which caused them to fail. This stirs long-standing resentments stemming from Japan's protectionist trade policies, and trade negotiations with Japan grind to a halt.

To go from here to a defacto cold war is the stuff of novels.

Toyota is taking it's lumps for a real design defect of some kind but this is hardly going to lead to some kind of war as portrayed in the book.
 
Also, it is not as if the problem suddenly manifests itself as dangerous acceleration. It gradually leads to that if accelerator problems are not noticed first by driver over a long period of time. The accelerator will start to stick first and gradually get worse.

When you cut through the hyperbole, it doesn't look to be as dangerous a problem as you are exaggerating it to be.
Not to mention the fact that Toyota is getting out in front of the problem with a recall. Yeah they clearly HATE their consumers.:rolleyes:

You don't see government doing recalls when they manufacture defective products, do you?
 
Yeah, that's clearly what I was saying... :rolleyes:


It looks to be a lot more then that.

So, you will dismiss the idea of a conflict of interest with the government owning GM and Chrysler without consideration, but jump down Toyota's throat without checking the facts. It is interesting how inconsistently you apply the burden of proof here...



A false dichotomy is a dichotomy that is not jointly exhaustive (there are other alternatives), or that is not mutually exclusive (the alternatives overlap), or that is possibly neither.


The benefits society as a whole receives from a business competing honestly in a free market are incalculable. As Milton Friedman famously said:
There is one and only one social responsibility of business — to use its resources and engage in activities designed to increase its profits so long as it stays within the rules of the game, which is to say, engages in open and free competition without deception or fraud.


1 in 10,000 = 0.01%.

Also, it is not as if the problem suddenly manifests itself as dangerous acceleration. It gradually leads to that if accelerator problems are not noticed first by driver over a long period of time. The accelerator will start to stick first and gradually get worse.

When you cut through the hyperbole, it doesn't look to be as dangerous a problem as you are exaggerating it to be.


There is a conflict of interest but these are the cards the government has been dealt with.
Toyota has clearly stumbled with how they have handled this.

I don't think it's a plot of first we take over the american car companies then attack Toyota with a smear campaign.
Most instances the driver is merely inconvenienced but what about these dramatic stories:
The CHP officer who died with his family when his Toyota crashed at over 100 mph because couldn't bring his car under control.
Cops have more driver training than ordinary drivers.
Then there was that woman who testified her lexus took off and wouldn't stop to the point she was so terrified she prayed to God for the car to stop which it somehow finally did.
Having to pray to God for a car to stop?
Relying on divine intervention?
These stories strike a cord of fear in the typical driver.

.01 is a big number when you count the number of cars Toyota has made since 2002.
 
Not to mention the fact that Toyota is getting out in front of the problem with a recall. Yeah they clearly HATE their consumers.:rolleyes:

You don't see government doing recalls when they manufacture defective products, do you?

Toyota finally did a recall after years of reported problems.
So now getting ahead after so many years is leadership? :rolleyes:

What does the government manufacture other than defective legislation and services.
Entitlement minded subservients and sycophants?
Underfunded pension and retirement debt for government workers?
They sub out their manufacture of real goods and get hosed by private industry.

With voting the public does the recalls when government manufactures defective products like say Martha Coakley :) .
 
I don't think it's a plot of first we take over the american car companies then attack Toyota with a smear campaign.

That is hardly what I am saying.

To automatically misrepresent things as conspiracy theories is dishonest.

Most instances the driver is merely inconvenienced but what about these dramatic stories:

And that is the point.

A few isolated instances of tragedy where not all the facts are known is hardly enough justification for all the sanctimonious outrage by politicians.

.01 is a big number when you count the number of cars Toyota has made since 2002.

.01% (not simply .01) is a phenomenally small margin of error. To expect perfection (which is what you are doing) is absurd.

So far, the reaction seems to be disproportionate to the actual problem.
 
You don't see government doing recalls when they manufacture defective products, do you?

Like the CRA or Freddie and Fannie? No, they blame evil big business and greedy wall street. Facts be damned.
 
Toyota finally did a recall after years of reported problems.
So now getting ahead after so many years is leadership? :rolleyes:

What does the government manufacture other than defective legislation and services.
Entitlement minded subservients and sycophants?
Underfunded pension and retirement debt for government workers?
They sub out their manufacture of real goods and get hosed by private industry.

With voting the public does the recalls when government manufactures defective products like say Martha Coakley :) .
Ever heard of the US Postal "Service?" How about Amtrak? Not to mention thousands of local gov examples of fraud, waste, and abuse. See the "Big Dig."

Coakley is a stupid example since the woman never actually held office. On the other hand, Schwarzenegger has almost singlehandedly ruined Kalifornia and he's probably going to get re-elected.
 
I'm not the straw man here.

Actually, you were misrepresenting me but apparently didn't realize it.

I was cynically pointing out the root of that bias against big business; the Marxist "exploitation" narrative. Basically, capitalists "exploit" workers and consumers. That is the whole basis for the anti-big business bias you demonstrate.

The fact that you apply the burden of proof differently between Toyota and the federal government is a prime example of this. You seem to trust the government more so then a private business.

As this blog concludes:
That leaves Toyota owners like me in the predicament of choosing the bad guy in this scenario. Toyota may not be the good guy, but given the choice between incompetent government and a private company with a solid track record, I pick the government as the one to wear the black hat.
 
Actually, you were misrepresenting me but apparently didn't realize it.

I was cynically pointing out the root of that bias against big business; the Marxist "exploitation" narrative. Basically, capitalists "exploit" workers and consumers. That is the whole basis for the anti-big business bias you demonstrate.

The fact that you apply the burden of proof differently between Toyota and the federal government is a prime example of this. You seem to trust the government more so then a private business.

As this blog concludes:
That leaves Toyota owners like me in the predicament of choosing the bad guy in this scenario. Toyota may not be the good guy, but given the choice between incompetent government and a private company with a solid track record, I pick the government as the one to wear the black hat.
Shag - apparently 04 forgot to mention (this time) that government regulation has made him a rich man. So you see, to him, the government is the lesser evil.
 
As this blog concludes:
That leaves Toyota owners like me in the predicament of choosing the bad guy in this scenario. Toyota may not be the good guy, but given the choice between incompetent government and a private company with a solid track record, I pick the government as the one to wear the black hat.

So the car has a problem and Toyota is not a good guy but the government is the bad guy?
 
What does the government manufacture other than defective legislation and services.

Every. Single. War. Is the result of a defective government.

If you want other examples:
  • FDA
  • EPA
  • Freddie Mac
  • Fannie May
  • the CRA
  • Social Security
  • Medicare
  • Medicaid
  • The War On Poverty
  • The New Deal

This recession is the result of earlier politically motivated government intervention in the economy distorting the market and the incentive structure of the free market.

High medical costs and high college tuition are also primarily the result of politically motivated distortions of the economy.

Need I go on...
 

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