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They should have made bigger examples of these guys. WTF were they thinking?


MILWAUKEE, Wisconsin (AP) -- A congresswoman's son and three Democratic campaign workers were sentenced Wednesday to four to six months in jail for slashing tires outside a Bush-Cheney campaign office on Election Day 2004.

The men pleaded no contest in January to misdemeanor property damage. A fifth worker was found not guilty.

"This case had to be a public example of what can happen when you interfere with voters' rights," said Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Michael Brennan, who rejected prosecutors' recommendation of probation for the four men.

The state Republican Party had rented more than 100 vehicles to give rides to voters and poll monitors on November 2, 2004. The cars were parked outside a GOP campaign office when the tires were punctured. The vandalism left the drivers scrambling for new vehicles.

Among those sentenced Wednesday were Sowande A. Omokunde, the son of Rep. Gwen Moore, D-Wisconsin, and Michael Pratt, the son of former acting Milwaukee Mayor Marvin Pratt.

"I love my son very much. I'm very proud of him," Moore said. "He's accepted responsibility."

Omokunde was sentenced to four months in jail; Pratt and Lewis Caldwell of Milwaukee were sentenced to six months; and Lavelle Mohammad of Milwaukee was sentenced to five months. All were granted work-release privileges.

Brennan also ordered them to pay a $1,000 fine each, in addition to the $5,317 in total restitution ordered earlier.

The four could have faced up to nine months in jail term and fines of $10,000.

Wisconsin's 10 electoral votes in the 2004 election ended up going to Democrat John Kerry.
 
barry2952 said:
They should have made bigger examples of these guys. WTF were they thinking?


MILWAUKEE, Wisconsin (AP) -- A congresswoman's son and three Democratic campaign workers were sentenced Wednesday to four to six months in jail for slashing tires outside a Bush-Cheney campaign office on Election Day 2004.

The men pleaded no contest in January to misdemeanor property damage. A fifth worker was found not guilty.

"This case had to be a public example of what can happen when you interfere with voters' rights," said Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Michael Brennan, who rejected prosecutors' recommendation of probation for the four men.

The state Republican Party had rented more than 100 vehicles to give rides to voters and poll monitors on November 2, 2004. The cars were parked outside a GOP campaign office when the tires were punctured. The vandalism left the drivers scrambling for new vehicles.

Among those sentenced Wednesday were Sowande A. Omokunde, the son of Rep. Gwen Moore, D-Wisconsin, and Michael Pratt, the son of former acting Milwaukee Mayor Marvin Pratt.

"I love my son very much. I'm very proud of him," Moore said. "He's accepted responsibility."

Omokunde was sentenced to four months in jail; Pratt and Lewis Caldwell of Milwaukee were sentenced to six months; and Lavelle Mohammad of Milwaukee was sentenced to five months. All were granted work-release privileges.

Brennan also ordered them to pay a $1,000 fine each, in addition to the $5,317 in total restitution ordered earlier.

The four could have faced up to nine months in jail term and fines of $10,000.

Wisconsin's 10 electoral votes in the 2004 election ended up going to Democrat John Kerry.

People wrote the judge asking him to hand out the maximum punishment.
These punks were employees of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin. They were operatives. They held high positions. One was a US Congressperson's son, the other was the son of the former Mayor of Milwaukee.

They attempted to alter a national election. Their crime was a felony. They should have done 'Fed Time'. Instead they plea bargain it down to a misdemeanor.

The former Mayor of Milwaukee called the sentence a travesty if justice. He stated today that these were just kids that performed a simple property crime and should never have been charged in the first place.

Our country is very screwed up.
 
How do you figure they were operatives? They hatched the plan. There was no link to higher party authority unless I've missed something in the coverage. You make it seem like no Replublicans have performed voter intimidation. Please, spare us the indignity.
 
barry2952 said:
How do you figure they were operatives? They hatched the plan. There was no link to higher party authority unless I've missed something in the coverage. You make it seem like no Replublicans have performed voter intimidation. Please, spare us the indignity.

No Republicans have gone to jail for it.

Looks like we know which party has the Culture of Corruption.

Enough said.
 
fossten said:
No Republicans have gone to jail for it.

Looks like we know which party has the Culture of Corruption.

Enough said.

EXCUSE ME??????

Try Again Fossy!!!!

Records show phone jammer-White House link
Phone data show people in election scheme had Republican Party contacts
JAMES TOBIN
Jim Cole / AP
Updated: 7:49 p.m. ET April 10, 2006

WASHINGTON - Key figures in a phone-jamming scheme designed to keep New Hampshire Democrats from voting in 2002 had regular contact with the White House and Republican Party as the plan was unfolding, phone records introduced in criminal court show.

The records show that Bush campaign operative James Tobin, who recently was convicted in the case, made two dozen calls to the White House within a three-day period around Election Day 2002 — as the phone jamming operation was finalized, carried out and then abruptly shut down.

The national Republican Party, which paid millions in legal bills to defend Tobin, says the contacts involved routine election business and that it was “preposterous” to suggest the calls involved phone jamming.
The Justice Department has secured three convictions in the case but hasn’t accused any White House or national Republican officials of wrongdoing, nor made any allegations suggesting party officials outside of New Hampshire were involved. The phone records of calls to the White House were exhibits in Tobin’s trial, but prosecutors did not make them part of their case.

Dems to seek court order to compel testimony
Democrats plan to ask a federal judge Tuesday to order GOP and White House officials to answer questions about the phone jamming in a civil lawsuit alleging voter fraud.

Repeated hang-up calls that jammed telephone lines at a Democratic get-out-the-vote center occurred in a Senate race in which Republican John Sununu defeated Democrat Jeanne Shaheen, 51 percent to 46 percent, on Nov. 5, 2002.

Besides the conviction of Tobin, the Republicans’ New England regional director, prosecutors negotiated two plea bargains: one with a New Hampshire Republican Party official and another with the owner of a telemarketing firm involved in the scheme. The owner of the subcontractor firm whose employees made the hang-up calls is under indictment.

The phone records show that most calls to the White House were from Tobin, who became President Bush’s presidential campaign chairman for the New England region in 2004. Other calls from New Hampshire senatorial campaign offices to the White House could have been made by a number of people.

The 17-minute call
A GOP campaign consultant in 2002, Jayne Millerick, made a 17-minute call to the White House on Election Day but said in an interview she did not recall the subject. Millerick, who later became the New Hampshire GOP chairwoman, said in an interview she did not learn of the jamming until after the election.

A Democratic analysis of phone records introduced at Tobin’s criminal trial shows he made 115 outgoing calls — mostly to the same number in the White House political affairs office — between Sept. 17 and Nov. 22, 2002. Two dozen of the calls were made from 9:28 a.m. the day before the election through 2:17 a.m. the night after the voting.

There also were other calls between Republican officials during the period that the scheme was hatched and canceled.

Prosecutors did not need the White House calls to convict Tobin and negotiate the two guilty pleas.

Whatever the reason for not using the White House records, prosecutors “tried a very narrow case,” said Paul Twomey, who represented the Democratic Party in the criminal and civil cases. The Justice Department did not say why the White House records were not used.

Election Day timing at issue
The Democrats said in their civil case motion that they were entitled to know the purpose of the calls to government offices “at the time of the planning and implementation of the phone-jamming conspiracy ... and the timing of the phone calls made by Mr. Tobin on Election Day.”

While national Republican officials have said they deplore such operations, the Republican National Committee said it paid for Tobin’s defense because he is a longtime supporter and told officials he had committed no crime.

By Nov. 4, 2002, the Monday before the election, an Idaho firm was hired to make the hang-up calls. The Republican state chairman at the time, John Dowd, said in an interview he learned of the scheme that day and tried to stop it.

Dowd, who blamed an aide for devising the scheme without his knowledge, contended that the jamming began on Election Day despite his efforts. A police report confirmed the Manchester Professional Fire Fighters Association reported the hang-up calls began about 7:15 a.m. and continued for about two hours. The association was offering rides to the polls.

No comment from White House
Virtually all the calls to the White House went to the same number, which currently rings inside the political affairs office. In 2002, White House political affairs was led by now-RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman. The White House declined to say which staffer was assigned that phone number in 2002.

“As policy, we don’t discuss ongoing legal proceedings within the courts,” White House spokesman Ken Lisaius said.

Robert Kelner, a Washington lawyer representing the Republican National Committee in the civil litigation, said there was no connection between the phone jamming operation and the calls to the White House and party officials.

“On Election Day, as anybody involved in politics knows, there’s a tremendous volume of calls between political operatives in the field and political operatives in Washington,” Kelner said.

“If all you’re pointing out is calls between Republican National Committee regional political officials and the White House political office on Election Day, you’re pointing out nothing that hasn’t been true on every Election Day,” he said.

Democratic National Committee spokesman Damien LaVera said Monday: “With every development in this case, there are new questions about the extent to which key national Republicans had knowledge of or were involved in a criminal scheme to keep New Hampshire voters from getting to the polls. The American people have a right to know whether the White House political director, who today sits as chairman of the national Republican Party, had any hand in it.”
 
barry2952 said:
How do you figure they were operatives?
Gee, let's see. They weren't volunteers. Hummm. They were paid employees.
Hummm. That would make them operatives. Humm, and they weren't just anybody. Hmmm, 2 of them happened to be the following... and please don't expect a liberal rag like the Milwaukee Journal to actually lay out the whole situation. Please, let's not even get into the fraud I unveiled pre-election and posted in depth on this site. Milwaukee had 7 (black area) precincts register more votes than were registered voters. Let's not mention the fact that Democratic Party officials requested over 100,000 additional ballots as if every man, woman and child were about to vote in the largely African-American neighborhoods. Let's not mention the fact that they illegally kept the polls open 1 hour longer. Face the truth. The Democrats tried to steal the election. Bush lost by less than 5000 votes. Had Ohio gone Kerry, Wisconsin would have been the swing state and the election still would not be over, and these punks would be in jail for the rest of their lives based on the sunami that would have followed.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=298159
[Both were quoted in a criminal complaint charging five Kerry-Edwards campaign staffers, including the sons of two prominent Milwaukee Democratic politicians, with doing more than $4,100 in damage by slashing 40 tires on 25 vehicles intended to get voters to polls.

Those charged include Michael Pratt, 32, the son of former Acting Mayor Marvin Pratt, Sowande A. Omokunde, 25, the son of U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore (D-Milwaukee), Lewis G. Caldwell, 28, and Lavelle Mohammad, 35, all of Milwaukee; and Justin Howell, 20, of Racine.]


Did I mention they were on the payroll of the Democratic Party?:rolleyes:
 
Like no employee of yours has ever done anything against your wishes? Blame all Dems because these guys are jerks. How typical of your thinking Bryan.
 
This is amazing..........................

barry2952 said:
Like no employee of yours has ever done anything against your wishes? Blame all Dems because these guys are jerks. How typical of your thinking Bryan.

You can't even admit to being hit by a truck when you have the impression of a Mack Bulldog on your AZZ. I needs to git me a pair of dem dare rosy collard glasses.
 
barry2952 said:
Like no employee of yours has ever done anything against your wishes? Blame all Dems because these guys are jerks. How typical of your thinking Bryan.

Hypocritical (of you). And typical.
 
barry2952 said:
Like no employee of yours has ever done anything against your wishes? Blame all Dems because these guys are jerks. How typical of your thinking Bryan.

I really tried to explain this in the simplest of terms.

This is just part and parcel of a overall Democratic Party belief that it is OK to cheat as long as you are cheating Republicans or Conservatives. The ends always justify the means with these people.

In Wisconsin we are fighting for Voter ID amendment that would require you to show ID. Who would be against that you say? DEMOCRATS. Do a search under Wisconsin Voter ID. Why are they lined up against this. They say because it would disenfranchise mostly black folks. They toss in poor and elderly just for cover. What they really want is unfrettered access to the polls so they can continue to manipulate the system by registering people to addresses that don't exist, allow 'creative' types to run from polling station to polling station, allow the use and abuse of absentee-balloting (anybody notice the HUGE rise in absentee balloting). Boy, we must all be going on some long vacations.

There is nothing more disenfranchising than knowing that I voted, but down the street a guy just voted 2 or 3 times. Or that same person voted absentee under one name and then showed up and voted under another.

Why can't liberals be in favor of what is right and just? Why hide? Come out and tell people who you are and waht you believe and let the chips fall were they may. Why not be required to show ID. I have to show ID to rent a car, borrow a book, pay for gas, etc, etc?

Politics and the quest for power are destroying the very fabric of our lives, where truth and justice used to be the first priority in one's life. Now, win it any cost is the pervasive attitude. Sickening.
 
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MonsterMark said:
Why can't liberals be in favor of what is right and just? Why hide?

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barry2952 said:
Like no employee of yours has ever done anything against your wishes? Blame all Dems because these guys are jerks. How typical of your thinking Bryan.

That's very hypocritical of you, barry. Especially since your Dem leaders are bashing the GOP left and right, calling them a "Culture of Corruption" just because of a few isolated incidents. Try using your logic and applying it to the other side for a change.

Oh, I forgot, Kool-Aid drunks can't see the other side.
 
Does anyone else the week leading up to election day?
Did anyone else have a W'04 bumper sticker, and do they remember having to worry about some :q:q:q:q:q:q:q liberal keying it in a parking lot?

Does anyone remember the Democrat who drove up on a curb to chase Katherine Harris here in Sarasota?

Last November, the every single day, there were more and more stories about angry liberals lashing out violently. Destroyed campaign headquarters, vandalized cars, intimidated voters, and on and on.

Locally, I had to go to attend to a few polling places because the liberals out front were harrassing the Republican volunteers working there.

And then, in typical fashion, as liberals always do, they respond to a list of indictments by refrencing a SINGLE act committed by some fringe unassociated Republican somewhere obscure.
 
Calabrio said:
Locally, I had to go to attend to a few polling places because the liberals out front were harrassing the Republican volunteers working there.

*tear* (that was sarcasm)

Calabrio said:
And then, in typical fashion, as liberals always do, they respond to a list of indictments by refrencing a SINGLE act committed by some fringe unassociated Republican somewhere obscure.
Oh...you mean like all the picketing that goes on daily in front of abortion clinics and planned parenthood facilities, where tires are punctured and bottles and rocks are thrown??? Hrm...yes...that's very isolated.

Or the conservatives who blow up buildings in the name of God Almighty?

Or the conservatives who shoot people with long range rifles?

Or the conservatives who throw beer bottles at gay couples walking down the streets from vehicles proudly displaying two flags and a "W" sticker?

Or the conservatives who...

My point is stupidity does not follow party lines.
 
raVeneyes said:
Oh...you mean like all the picketing that goes on daily in front of abortion clinics and planned parenthood facilities??? Hrm...yes...that's very isolated.
I would think a liberal would respect that. Non-violent, peaceful protest. What are you taking issue with here?

Or the conservatives who blow up buildings in the name of God Almighty?
Give me some examples. And is there any connection with Republicans or conservatives?

Or the conservatives who shoot people with long range rifles?
Give me some examples. And then tell me how they are associated with ANY main stream causes.

Or the conservatives who throw beer bottles at gay couples walking down the streets from vehicles proudly displaying two flags and a "W" sticker?
Give me some examples. I don't know of any, but I know of a score of incidents of liberal road rage at W'04 drivers. And, I even know first hand one Republican House member who had to dive out of the way of an Cadillac driven by a Kerry supporter. As mentioned, Katherine Harris was sign waving when this guy drove on the sidewalk to "Scare" her.


Or the conservatives who...

My point is stupidity does not follow party lines.
And my point is, that it might.
You can find ISOLATED incidence of violence and stupidity everywhere. However, there is a PATTERN of this behavior within the liberal madness, and it's not isolated. And in many cases it's coordinated.

Do you want to speak about how conservatives aren't able to lecture on college campuses without the distinct risk of being violently protest, harrassed, or ATTACKED ON STAGE with a pie?

How many liberals were arrested outside the RNC convention in NYC in 2004?

Shots fired in Knox Bush/Cheney headquarters.

[url=http://www.wisgop.org/view.phtml?func=ch&lg=&id=83]Protesters storm Bush/Cheney Milwaukee headquarters.


Protestors Storm, Ransack Bush-Cheney Headquarters In Orlando

Two men who tore down a Bush-Cheney sign and urinated on it were caught on videotape by Summit County Republican officials early Friday morning.

President Bush's campaign office in Spokane burglarized, vandalized

This one even happened a few days AFTER the election:
3 Arrested in N.C. GOP Office Vandalism

By MICHAEL FELBERBAUM
Associated Press Writer

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) -- An apparent mob of vandals attacked the North Carolina Republican Party headquarters, causing minor smoke damage, breaking windows and leaving vulgar messages, police said.

Three people were arrested.

In addition to the damage, the vandals left a burned effigy depicting President Bush and Sen. John Kerry, police said.

A police officer reported Friday night that about 100 people wearing masks and gloves were walking down a street near the headquarters, police Capt. D.S. Overman said.

Officers investigating that report found a second group "vandalizing and damaging" the GOP headquarters, said police Maj. D.R. Lane.

The vandalism was a "planned and orchestrated event," police spokesman Jim Sughrue said.

"This is not a political statement," Sughrue said. "A political statement is what we made Tuesday. This is a crime."
 
raVeneyes said:
*tear* (that was sarcasm)


Oh...you mean like all the picketing that goes on daily in front of abortion clinics and planned parenthood facilities, where tires are punctured and bottles and rocks are thrown??? Hrm...yes...that's very isolated.

Or the conservatives who blow up buildings in the name of God Almighty?

Or the conservatives who shoot people with long range rifles?

Or the conservatives who throw beer bottles at gay couples walking down the streets from vehicles proudly displaying two flags and a "W" sticker?

Or the conservatives who...

My point is stupidity does not follow party lines.

My, my. Aren't we touchy. You remind me of the "Death Blossom" weapon from The Last Starfighter, just firing in all directions when you're cornered. You can't even stay on topic.

Why don't you knock off the irrelevant, ad hominem attacks on everybody and everything and stay on topic FOR A CHANGE?
 

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