Wheel bearing he11!!!

[Kevin]

Need a new bearing for the right rear, should be no biggie right? Talked to a local supplier, $73 for a new bearing.

It has to be pressed onto the hub (after removal of old bearing). Talked to a shop that says it might not be possible to get at the old bearing to remove it.

So Ford also offers a new hub with a bearing - get this - for $900!!! No that's not a typo.

I hate this friggen car, can't wait to unload it.

What have your experiences been with wheel bearings?

 

[mrzeee]

Hi Kevin

The part number for the knuckle and hub assys for a 2000 LS are
r/h 2W4Z-5B715-AA list is $445.97 LVC cost is $321.10
l/h 2W4Z-5B716-AA list is $552.15 LVC cost is $397.55
plus frt and your duty/taxes etc
max

 

[mrzeee]

brgs

here is the picture of that

 

[mharrison]

The hub assembly is a breeze to install. It only has about 5 or 6 bolts holding it on.

Of note....You need a new axle nut. I PROMISE....The old one will self-destruct when you uninstall it..... You will also need a big a$$ socket for it. Your local FLAPS should have what the socket you need for about $10-15. I forget the exact size.

Don't ask how I know! Anyway, it is designed that way so order one of those too.

 

[Frogman]

If it's like the mark VIII nut, then it's gonna be a 36mm.

 

[ToddG]

What have your experiences been with wheel bearings?

The left rear went out on my 2003. It was fixed under warranty.

I never buy used cars.

 

[Frogman]

I never buy used cars.

You'd rather have a car payment month after month?

 

[fishbone1]

Some people pay cash. I'm not one of them though.

 

[ToddG]

You'd rather have a car payment month after month?

Huh? What's your connection between a used car and car payments?

My point is to reliability. The older a car is, the more problems it is likely to have, and those problems can be expensive to fix. Just look at the "problem" threads on this board.

 

[Frogman]

You said you never buy used cars. Last I checked, there were only "new Cars" and "used cars.

Reliability? Most of todays newer cars are reliable. And what does it being new have to do with reliability? Are you telling me a car that YOU buy brand new is going to be more reliable 2 years down the road than the 2 year old, same model year car as yours that some guy buys used?

ALL cars break down. New and used.

If we follow your logic of not buying USED cars, then do you buy a brand new car every day? After all, once you buy it and it's licensed, guess what. It's USED.

 

[eastcoastLS]

Some people pay cash. I'm not one of them though.

i am.

Huh? What's your connection between a used car and car payments?

My point is to reliability. The older a car is, the more problems it is likely to have, and those problems can be expensive to fix. Just look at the "problem" threads on this board.

aha you must not have a lick of sense when looking at a used car forsale and test driving it. my 2000 ls is more than reliable, mine will take me anywhere your 06 will. in my opinion new cars are less reliable because the things that are prone to go wrong usually go wrong 'under' warranty thats why cars come with warranties. get with it

 

[Eliot_Ness_Ls]

+1 with the guys..If it falls appart why keep makeing payments? I would rather sell it and not owe payments then sell it and have to give it all pluss some back. I got my car used, my friend got his new we both wound up with the same problems around the same amount of miles but he had his longer than I had mine and he told "ME" how to fix them. HHHMMMMMM.

 

[NateRW21]

I find it hard to believe that you can buy a component that cannot be replaced... I imagine if they sell the bearing seperate, it can be installed.

 

[LS4me]

Need a new bearing for the right rear, should be no biggie right? Talked to a local supplier, $73 for a new bearing.

It has to be pressed onto the hub (after removal of old bearing). Talked to a shop that says it might not be possible to get at the old bearing to remove it.

So Ford also offers a new hub with a bearing - get this - for $900!!! No that's not a typo.

I hate this friggen car, can't wait to unload it.

What have your experiences been with wheel bearings?

What's that, installed??? Check out the prices.....

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getLocator&siteid=214270&chapter=DP2FI0&appSectionid=24&groupid=20135&subgroupid=60923&componentid=0&make=21&model=Ls&year=2001&graphicID=FIP080&callout=4&catalogid=1

 

[Kevin]

No, the $900 was just for a new rear hub, which included everything - but hey - $900 for a bearing repair is NUTS. Even at Team Ford's price (which is much better) after shipping and Canadian exchange it's $450.

It being a used car isn't a problem. It's 7 years old, and has 4x the headaches any other car I've owned has had. Parts are triple what they should be.

The plan is to sell the car, but I may just get rid of her as is instead of spending $1500 on parts by the time it's sold.

 

[ToddG]

You said you never buy used cars. Last I checked, there were only "new Cars" and "used cars.

Reliability? Most of todays newer cars are reliable. And what does it being new have to do with reliability? Are you telling me a car that YOU buy brand new is going to be more reliable 2 years down the road than the 2 year old, same model year car as yours that some guy buys used?

ALL cars break down. New and used.

If we follow your logic of not buying USED cars, then do you buy a brand new car every day? After all, once you buy it and it's licensed, guess what. It's USED.

Froggie, you need your meds adjusted. I've tried, but I cannot follow you. I'm at a total loss to see what car payments have to do with new or used cars, much less any of the above gobblydeegook, so I cannot comment.

aha you must not have a lick of sense when looking at a used car forsale and test driving it.

I'm sure there are plenty of good used cars out there, and for good prices. If you want to buy them, go right ahead. But I choose to buy new cars. Look at it this way: If people didn't buy new cars, there would be no used cars for you slobs to buy! You should be thanking me!

 

[Frogman]

Froggie, you need your meds adjusted.

I KNOW! I keep telling this to the people in the nice white jackets, but they aren't listening to me!

I've tried, but I cannot follow you. I'm at a total loss to see what car payments have to do with new or used cars, much less any of the above gobblydeegook, so I cannot comment.

It's OK, most people can't follow my logic.

I'll try to give you the simplified version:

You buy brand new car.

2 years later, me buy used car. Same model year, same make as your car.

Are you telling that me get bad car because it used, and you get Good car because you buy new?

Cars break down.

There. Hopefully you'll understand that a little better.

Basically, what I was saying is that you're losing money every time you buy a new car. If you use your head, you can get a well running used car and still save up to 50% as opposed to buying a new car. But, it's your money.

I'm sure there are plenty of good used cars out there, and for good prices. If you want to buy them, go right ahead. But I choose to buy new cars. Look at it this way: If people didn't buy new cars, there would be no used cars for you slobs to buy! You should be thanking me!

Eh. There will always be more suckers who buy new cars. :lol:

You ever notice people with self made money (and I mean people with money, not some schmoe with 10K in the bank and he thinks he's rich), never buy new cars?

Trivia - Did you all know that Sam Walton (of the Wal-Mart empire) used to drive a beat up 60's??? truck till the day he died?

 

[ToddG]

Trivia - Did you all know that Sam Walton (of the Wal-Mart empire) used to drive a beat up 60's??? truck till the day he died?

I did know that! He was a great businessman.

OK, I think I get where you're going now. Your car purchase is not "bad" because its a used car. If you do your homework, I think a savvy buyer can get a great deal on a good used car. But I'm not willing to spend the time to do that.

My point is that as cars age, they tend to have more problems. Parts wear out, components age, design improvments are implemented, etc. One reason I buy new cars is that they are likely to have fewer problems than used cars, especially those used cars for which I have no idea who drove them, how they were maintained, etc. Its just playing the odds. Yes, new cars can have problems too, but on average, there will be fewer problems with newer cars than with older/used cars. I don't want to deal with car problems, and buying new is one way to avoid that to a large extent.

The other reason I prefer new cars is purely emotional: it's FUN to get a NEW car! I can order the exact options I want, the color, etc. There are no door dings, the leather is clean, everything works, etc. And that new car smell! It can't be beat!

 

[Gcolladay]

new or used?

I bought my 2003 Ls ultimate 2 years old with 15k on it for $22,500.....the sticker on it was $48,790......I'm also in the car business.....It's the worst thing you could do,is buying new....I got a great deal on mine but I'm still upside down on it(oweing more than its worth) Imagine what I'd be If I bought it brand new!!??.....that 06 you got is worth somewhere in the mid twenty's!!! hope you didn't pay sticker of almost 50K.........the more the car cost,the bigger depreciation..........

 

[LS4me]

I bought my 2003 Ls ultimate 2 years old with 15k on it for $22,500.....the sticker on it was $48,790......I'm also in the car business.....It's the worst thing you could do,is buying new....I got a great deal on mine but I'm still upside down on it(oweing more than its worth) Imagine what I'd be If I bought it brand new!!??.....that 06 you got is worth somewhere in the mid twenty's!!! hope you didn't pay sticker of almost 50K.........the more the car cost,the bigger depreciation..........

Depreciation is irrelevant if you keep the car. If you plan on a new car every couple, three years and you don't drive a lot, you should probably lease. Unless you put 50% down or pay cash, you're upside down on a new car the minute you drive off the lot.

Sticker is also irrelevant to re-sale. My '06 stickered at just over $49k. I paid just over $38K. I really don't care what re-sale is as I plan on keeping this LS for a looong time. There is a certain point where rapid depreciation ends and cars "lose" value at a slower rate.


I prefer new cars for the reasons Todd gives. How was it broken-in? How was it treated? How was it maintained? Every pre-owned car we have purchased, including a '01 V6 LS, was a disaster from a reliability standpoint. The LS was the best, but still had it's share of issues. The previous owner was a slob and didn't take very good care of the car. Whomever prepped the car did a good job, but my cleaning found the deep stuff. I keep my cars for a long time (my 2000 V6 is going strong at ~139K miles) so it's new for me. Well, it was until Lincoln stopped LS production. My daughter will likely get my Ls so I'll be looking for an '04 or '05 when the time comes...

 

[eastcoastLS]

I did know that! He was a great businessman.

OK, I think I get where you're going now. Your car purchase is not "bad" because its a used car. If you do your homework, I think a savvy buyer can get a great deal on a good used car. But I'm not willing to spend the time to do that.


The other reason I prefer new cars is purely emotional: it's FUN to get a NEW car! I can order the exact options I want, the color, etc. There are no door dings, the leather is clean, everything works, etc. And that new car smell! It can't be beat!

Yes he was one good businessman.


I see what you are saying. Which is the way I look at buying anything other than a car/house/boat. Its just not worth the trouble for you to go through "looking" and the previous owner hassle trying to get them to bring down the price. You just don't want to deal with the hassle and understand that completely. I refuse to buy used things. If I had enough money I would buy brand new off the lot 0 miles on the odometer cars too, but I'm not on that level just yet.

I can agree it would be fun to get a new car that has been untouched other than the SLOBS that move them from truck trailer to the lot.. I bet some of them slobs out there smoke blunts in them brand new cars hahahahhaha. But yeah you can't beat that new car smell.