This employee discount deal is GREAT if you buy without a trade or lease. But if you trade, they will hammer you bad. I tried to trade my wife's 03 Aviator last Saturday on a new Aviator. What they offered me was ridiculous. It may have been a fair price to them, but I wasn't going to give it away either. I actually got a better deal on an X5 BMW. Haven't decided what to do yet...if anything.