Wtf happened to my car

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so I'm sitting at the dinner table yesterday and I'm looking at my car, something seemed a little off. So I get out there and get down on the ground and right where the all the metal is welded up under the car, under the rocker panel, just behind the door I notice a huge divot, it almost looked like some one dropped the damn car on a jack stand there is even a small dent and hole on the bottom side of the rocker panel. How easy is it to mangle this metal. (I tried taking a pic but my phone doesn't like sending pics any more)
 
The pinch weld is very soft, should not use that to place Jack or Jack stands, but sometimes you have to, mine was bent up real bad, so I took some pliers and straightened it...as for a hole, I suggest putting some jb weld or something in it so rain can't get to the carpet
 
Nah, mine is pretty bent up on the belly, it's been on stands countless times
I've just become very picky about where I place jacks and stands under it now

prolonged bending of that floor can rip it over time, so I suggest you start finding better places to lift, I place my Jack and stands on the front sub frame rail, the part that's about 3 inches wide, and then I Jack up the rear using the differential and place stands under rear body bushings
 
Not too healthy to jack up on the differential as you have a chance to crack it.
 
Been lifting cars and trucks like that for many years, haven't cracked one yet
 
Most cars and trucks don't have IRSs... It is fine on anything with a solid rear axle, because you are lifting it under the suspension. The IRS in our car is bolted solid to the car, not the best way to lift it. You can break the tabs off the pumpkin that bolt the bushings to the frame. The best way to lift the back of an IRS car is each side on the subframe mounting point.
 
Sapperfire said:
Been lifting cars and trucks like that for many years, haven't cracked one yet
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DieselDan said:
Most cars and trucks don't have IRSs... It is fine on anything with a solid rear axle, because you are lifting it under the suspension. The IRS in our car is bolted solid to the car, not the best way to lift it. You can break the tabs off the pumpkin that bolt the bushings to the frame. The best way to lift the back of an IRS car is each side on the subframe mounting point.
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Told ya. :p
 
jigga?

And actually, the pinch weld was how Ford intended customers to pick up their car for a flat. The pinch weld is actually very strong, however a jackstand has a very, very small contact point and that is usually why the pinchweld bends. At work we pick up cars all day, every day on the pinch weld, but the pads on the lift are atleast 4 inches wide, and they arent putting pressure on such a small area. My car is on the lift atleast 2 times a month, but my pinch welds are in mint condition.
 
DieselDan said:
jigga?

And actually, the pinch weld was how Ford intended customers to pick up their car for a flat. The pinch weld is actually very strong, however a jackstand has a very, very small contact point and that is usually why the pinchweld bends. At work we pick up cars all day, every day on the pinch weld, but the pads on the lift are atleast 4 inches wide, and they arent putting pressure on such a small area. My car is on the lift atleast 2 times a month, but my pinch welds are in mint condition.
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That was directed at Sapperfire. He once tried to jack my car from there and couldn't figure out why I told him not to and threatened him with bodily harm. :D
 
lol, ya. Good way to crack a diff... And on that same thought, our housing is aluminum, there are even fewer cars with aluminum IRSs
 
DieselDan said:
Most cars and trucks don't have IRSs... It is fine on anything with a solid rear axle, because you are lifting it under the suspension. The IRS in our car is bolted solid to the car, not the best way to lift it. You can break the tabs off the pumpkin that bolt the bushings to the frame. The best way to lift the back of an IRS car is each side on the subframe mounting point.
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False, there are rubber bushings
 
Actually I use the little bracket that's bolted to the differential on my car, but sure someone will say that's a bad idea too, whatever...
 
Sapperfire said:
Actually I use the little bracket that's bolted to the differential on my car, but sure someone will say that's a bad idea too, whatever...
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Uh, actually thats worse. See, if you are under the diff then most of the pressure is on the front mounting tabs which is spread over a wider area. If you put it under the rear mount of the diff then thats a much worse cause thats prone to cracking just under acceleration! Much less lifting almost a ton focused just on that small area.
 
I just lift mine up from the rear from the middle of the muffler, and from the front I just lift it from the headers....then I grab my hammer and........ ;)
 
^^If by muffler, you mean gas tank, then you're doing it correctly.

Personally I just grab it by the bumper and deadlift it, and have a friend slide some jackstands under it.
 
I've used those old timey bumper jacks and just pick it up by the door handles
 
I just use a high-lift jack off the door mirrors or sometimes pop teh trunk and lift from the trunk lid.
 
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