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For years Turtle Wax has been known as the bottom of the barrel. But lately I have seen Turtle Wax Ice Clay endorsed not only by enthusiasts on this site, but other fanatics as well. There must be something to it. And $20 bucks won't break the bank to try it out.

What does any of this have to do with Obama's popularity, which was the original thread, or Lincolns or Cadillacs, which is what this site is all about? The debates are entertaining though. Shows the different points of view. Maybe it does have some relavance to the thread; only on another...

I'm new to the site and luxury car ownership, as I have owned nothing but pickups and SUV's for years. Man, was I missing out on some driving pleasure. I just picked up a new Caddy and can assure that it won't be my last. I'm hooked. I'm looking forward to being part of the group and thank...