2002 Lincoln LS ATC flashing - front brakes LOCKING - MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE C1288-C1289

The sad part about ALL of this feedback is you people actually believe you are helping. We are all wasting each other's time here. Find someone else to take out your excessive testosterone on!
 
ktmccrary said:
The sad part about ALL of this feedback is you people actually believe you are helping. We are all wasting each other's time here. Find someone else to take out your excessive testosterone on!
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they are, by giving you the quickest and most efficient way to figure out what the problem is, seems to be you're the one who has problems seeing things.
 
Here's what you apparently want to hear...

Replace ALL the ABS and AdvanceTrac sensors, modules and pumps. That "should" solve your problem.

There is a reason dealers (ALL of them) have the mega-buck scan tools and the average Joe doesn't. No, I have absolutely NO financial interest in Ford. In fact, I am down to 1 LS from 3 just a few months ago. My daughter now has a G37 and I a 535i. My wife's LS is the only Ford product left in the stable.
 
ktmccrary said:
ALL OF YOUR "HOLIER THAN THOU" RANTS DO NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT YOU APPARENTLY ARE ALL A BUNCH OF ARROGANT KNOW-IT ALLS. Forgive me for thinking I might find solace in a site that bills itself as a Lincoln forum. You all clearly like to waste your time demeaning others instead of troubleshooting the problem. If you don't know just say "I DON'T FKN KNOW". You don't have to rant and rave about what an idiot I am for not being willing to pay a dealer to further misdiagnose my issue. For God's sake, if you haven't had this issue, or you don't know anything about it, go find a thread you do know something about and actually try to help someone instead of trying to make them feel 2 inches tall. Please leave this forum alone if you don't know what the problem is.
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I DON'T FKN KNOW BECAUSE NO ONE CAN KNOW WITHOUT IN-PERSON ACCESS TO THE CAR WITH A MULTI-THOUSAND DOLLAR SCAN TOOL SO TAKE IT TO THE FKN SHOP THAT DOES

G-RELL said:
The real question is...why so against Dealers...
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Perfect example of us not reading. He clearly stated he was not willing to pay for another MISdiagnosis

BigRigLS said:
GLWR
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Good Luck With Re-sell
 
Moderator, could you please end, terminate and delete this thread? It serves no practical purpose and services no one. You clearly have an incredible number of know-it-alls here that would rather berate someone than to actually help with a problem. Forgive me all for thinking that the entire purpose of an information sharing forum like this was to help people who have had similar issues. What was I thinking? I am such an idiot that I had no idea that I could take it to a dealer to get the problem diagnosed. Wish I had enough sense to figure out that one before I wasted mine and your time with all this worthless nonsense. Thank you all for this invaluable information. The old proverb is definitely true: "Free advice is worth exactly what you pay for it, if not less"
 
ktmccrary said:
NO FURTHER COMMENTS ARE REQUIRED ON THIS THREAD.
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Just one more thing....because I care.....


I will pray to JOEGR for your LS's soul and that he may touch you with his holy wrenches. That he may bring your braking system peace and deliver it from this horrible ailment that has grabbed a hold of it. That you will accept him as your LS's lord and savior. In JOEGR's name i pray, amen.
 
Why are you driving a car with highly questionable brakes 1500 miles? Stop driving it before you kill someone.

Joe is likely right. But you could still have extensive issues after that anyway. Yaw sensor and wheel speed sensors, and/or wiring going to them is my GUESS for any ABS actuation issues. The car may be thinking its out of control and trying to regain control it believes is lost. Bad wheel speed sensors may cause abs engagement at improper times. Unplugging the fuse to the ABS motor will kill it.

Your code is specifically for a pressure transducer, so whatever sensor is measuring hydraulic pressure in the brake system, or the wiring to that sensor, or the computer processing the information. You'll be going to a dealer anyway to get the system bled if you have to replace the ABS module. Its perfectly fine to say I can't afford the dealer. Hell, I can't most of the time. But, when the risk to reward is piss poor, savage parts replacer mode only makes things worse.

Also, tow it to the dealer. An at-fault accident will cost you thousands, not to mention you could injure or kill someone. A tow is about $100.
 
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oh man, Joe has been on fire this week with all the jokes!


I dont know why people think you don't have a sense of humor?
 
ktmccrary said:
Moderator, could you please end, terminate and delete this thread? It serves no practical purpose and services no one. You clearly have an incredible number of know-it-alls here that would rather berate someone than to actually help with a problem. Forgive me all for thinking that the entire purpose of an information sharing forum like this was to help people who have had similar issues. What was I thinking? I am such an idiot that I had no idea that I could take it to a dealer to get the problem diagnosed. Wish I had enough sense to figure out that one before I wasted mine and your time with all this worthless nonsense. Thank you all for this invaluable information. The old proverb is definitely true: "Free advice is worth exactly what you pay for it, if not less"
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This thread will not be deleted, as it might help the next person who isn't to stubborn enough to do whats right...

Again, yes. most advice here would have you do some sort of systems test, or diagnosis to solve problems... TO THE NEXT PERSON, smart enough to know some things you cant diagnosis over the internet... when your putting the public in danger, its BEST to take it in and spend the small amount of money it'd take to have the proper equipment to assess.

This is the classic "I yelled at my dealer for a service charge" and "Im never comming back here again".. and is now up sh!t creek, with a broken car...and taking it out on us....

OR

Its the "i bought a $40k car for a 1/10th of that" and didn't know what I was getting into, and can not afford to maintain anymore.... and still taking it out on us...

So Sad...

GLW"R-S"

(Im sure MR. Im done with this forum will post shortly)....

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OP: do you want a whaa-burger to go with those french-cries?

you seem to be doing a lot of whining here all because we cant remote diagnose your car from hundreds of miles away, and you clearly don't want to pay someone else to do it...




then how in the hell are we even supposed to help you? fine you want this fixed with out a trip to the dealer, then answer my question asked eariler, What kind of scan tool do you have? and no cheap code readers don't count...





also go find a sink somewhere and wash that sand out of your vagina. they are not going to delete this thread so that way the next time an arrogant ass hat comes on here demanding their car be fixed for free because the dealer wanted to charge them money, they can see ahead of time how it turns out...






actually it looks like he may be realizing that he needs to actually pay somebody to get this fixed...
ktmccrary said:
The old proverb is definitely true: "Free advice is worth exactly what you pay for it, if not less"
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Finally a post that has some usefulness. At least you have offered a solution to driving the vehicle more safely until the problem is resolved. Disabling the ABS pump will indeed remove the danger from the problem. Thank you for having enough thought to make an actual helpful suggestion. However, this will likely be my last post here , as I would rather go to the dentist and have a root canal performed without anesthesia and to listen to the rest of these know-it-all arrogant bastards that have nothing better to do with their time than to make someone look like an idiot. The rest of you pompous asses need to get a life! Thanks again!!!
 
FYI you've been saying its your last for 9 posts now... man up and do it, instead of whining like a spoiled brat...

We all know you'll continue to view... and make a new account on the next problem your POS LS gives you...
 
g-rell said:
fyi you've been saying its your last for 9 posts now... Man up and do it, instead of whining like a spoiled brat...

We all know you'll continue to view... And make a new account on the next problem your pos ls gives you...
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what a phucking a$$hole
 
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Best of luck man... hope you get it solved soon. Im sure your right around the corner with the problem.

And HEY!!!.. you've got all new front controls (suspension) because of it! nothing wrong with that!!! BUT fix the brakes soon! dont want to wear those parts out too soon... you get one of those ebay kits???

:Beer
 
More like Joe the Jerk!!!.... ehh, am I right... whos with me....[points to KTM] I know you're with me.... [crickets, crickets]
 
ktmccrary said:
Finally a post that has some usefulness. At least you have offered a solution to driving the vehicle more safely until the problem is resolved. Disabling the ABS pump will indeed remove the danger from the problem. Thank you for having enough thought to make an actual helpful suggestion. However, this will likely be my last post here , as I would rather go to the dentist and have a root canal performed without anesthesia and to listen to the rest of these know-it-all arrogant bastards that have nothing better to do with their time than to make someone look like an idiot. The rest of you pompous asses need to get a life! Thanks again!!!
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Well, it will only disable the antilock feature. So they can still lock. Its still quite dangerous. It may have no effect on whether it prevents the brakes from locking themselves without your input.
 
02LincLS said:
Well, it will only disable the antilock feature. So they can still lock. Its still quite dangerous. It may have no effect on whether it prevents the brakes from locking themselves without your input.
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What do you mean by this? What would still lock them? What other brake related features do you think are still enabled?
 
I only say this because he said brakes were locking by themselves. I have no clue what could do that, and therefore no idea how to prevent it.

I think removing the abs motor fuse also disables advancetrac so I can't imagine any other non user input applying the brakes, but I want to make sure he understands his car is still not fit for the streets.
 
The ABS and AdvanceTrac are the same unit. The ABS unit is the only thing that can apply individual brakes (front wheels and not back). A mechanical fault in the mechanical assembly probably could too, but not if the pump isn't running. ABS fuse should stop that. The only thing left is Electronic Braking Assist. That could still apply all the brakes using the vacuum booster, but that solenoid is driven from the ABS module as well.

I certainly agree that it is still not safe. It would be less unsafe (not the same as safe) with the ABS fuse removed.
 
Geez I wonder why? I mean a man can only handle so many coil PACK corrections.

Face it we've become like parrots, every day same Fn story, open mouth, insert spoon. Then when we teach them how to search using Google properly they get as ignorant.

Ain't it great to be in the know and all?

Just imagine them round eyes when they discover they can get the CD shop manual for 12$ on eBay.
 
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