Aftermarket HID alternative?

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I was browsing the Dennis Reinhart Automotive webpage when I found an interesting listing:

HID Headlight Assemblies
(Code: M8-HIDA)

No price was given, it was a call for availability item.

According to the e-mail I received, he apparently has an aftermarket alternative, other than the Motorcraft replacement. Before I call to find out, does anyone know anything about this product?

Being the owner of a '93, I'd love to find a good replacement that wasn't $1,000.
 
id be wearey of anything dennis has to offer...buuuuut...i havent heard of it, imo the motorcraft would be the best way to go, you know its going to work.
 
you dont need the hid housings just get the hid kit. i got mine from xenonking.com cost a little more than 500 for the kit. It is definetly worth the money. I had to buy new lenses a year prior to doing this. i should have the pics by the weekend i will post them.
 
The ONLY problem with the above statement is that in a few years your headlight housings will be just as bad as they were before you replaced them, if not worse. So, it might not be such a good idea to purchase the aftermarket HID systems for our cars and expect them to work as well as what the factory HID system is. You WILL get more light out cause of the fact that the aftermarket HID system will generate more light than the regular bulbs, but it will not last that long due to the construction of the factory NON HID housings. The reflector will burn up, prolly faster than it would with the regular bulbs, and then the housings will brown up.....so you are back to where you started.....and you spent ALOT of money for only a few years.

Just my $.02 :shifty:
 
1wykdmk8 said:
The ONLY problem with the above statement is that in a few years your headlight housings will be just as bad as they were before you replaced them, if not worse. So, it might not be such a good idea to purchase the aftermarket HID systems for our cars and expect them to work as well as what the factory HID system is. You WILL get more light out cause of the fact that the aftermarket HID system will generate more light than the regular bulbs, but it will not last that long due to the construction of the factory NON HID housings. The reflector will burn up, prolly faster than it would with the regular bulbs, and then the housings will brown up.....so you are back to where you started.....and you spent ALOT of money for only a few years.

Just my $.02 :shifty:



This man knows what he's talking about. I have a set of aftermarket D2S bulbs installed in my 95, but i am also running Factory HID housings. I would have went with factory bulbs, but max said they are on national back order, and I would'nt have them in time for carlisle.


Mike
 
basically, i dont think there is any solution to our lights thats under 1k. its been discussed alot and if you want the job done right, u gotta pay.

sucks how some of us pay more on HID's and othe misc. stuff then our actually car costs.
 
NOTHING else comes close!!!

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the waterfall is gone!!!

looks awsome, is it just me or should that lincoln star be dropped down a little so that its centered
 
Lincolns Own said:
... is it just me or should that lincoln star be dropped down a little so that its centered

Believe it or not, when the bumper/grille was OFF the car at the body shop - it was centered!

Apparently no one(even I) realized the chrome trim overhung the top of the grille assembly. I'm worried if I moved it, it will have a mark above it where it was? :shifty:
 
the regular housings I can get all day for 195.78 so I guess I would be willing to spend that ever 3-4 years, also I thought the HIDs didnt run as hot as halogen
 
ray is right about the reflective in the lens housing. The bulb do produce less heat than stock lights. Im not worried about my lenses though my car only comes out here and theyre. No rain, snow,no bad weather or elements period.But if you use youre mark everyday driver than you will be replacing them sooner than later.Oh yah thanks ray for the kit i will get pics up here for everyone this weekend i will be detailing the car.
 
So, they do make aftermarket HID kits for the Mark VIII-
$380 kit
And they will work inside the original headlight housing.

They generate less heat than the original bulbs, so the set up should last a little longer.

And despite having almost 14 years to fix the problem, Ford is still producing a crappy halogen headlight? They never improved the materials or fixed the problems??
 
Well, I just purchased a pair of brand new halogen housings with all the bulbs included for $200 a piece. I might try one of the aftermarket HID kits that I have seen on ebay for $180.00. I haven't heard of any other solution except for the $1,200 HID's, and that's too much money for headlights.
 
Calabrio said:
So, they do make aftermarket HID kits for the Mark VIII-
$380 kit
And they will work inside the original headlight housing.

Those 7500k bulbs are going to look really blue. Any higher and they will start to look purple. I don't recommend getting bulbs with a color temperature higher than 6000k.
 
turborich said:
Well, I just purchased a pair of brand new halogen housings with all the bulbs included for $200 a piece. I might try one of the aftermarket HID kits that I have seen on ebay for $180.00. I haven't heard of any other solution except for the $1,200 HID's, and that's too much money for headlights.

You could try using HIR bulbs instead of normal hallogens. The HIR bulbs will run slightly cooler than normal hallogens, and will hopefully be less destructive to your new housings.
 
School_Zone said:
You could try using HIR bulbs instead of normal hallogens. The HIR bulbs will run slightly cooler than normal hallogens, and will hopefully be less destructive to your new housings.
What is a HIR bulb? I haven't heard of that term before. Thanks.
 
turborich said:
What is a HIR bulb? I haven't heard of that term before. Thanks.






THE BEST ALTERNATIVE TO HID

Want to get great illumination without extra heat, wiring upgrades, relays, transformers, and blue tint? Want to SEE better at night instead of HEARING a bunch of dubious chatter about xenon-filled, over-wattage, blue-tinted bling-bling bulbs that are supposedly "just like HIDs"? Want a bulb where you could create a simple swap into a 9005 or 9006 socket and maintain the correct filament placement for a perfect light pattern, instead of causing glare and scattered, diffused light? Want to save hundreds of dollars over the cost of retrofitting an illegal, bootleg HID system? Then you want these Halogen Infrared Reflecting bulbs. tting bulbs.

These Toshiba bulbs are a unique product, the only bulbs available that use the research technology that General Electric patented in 2000 (patent number 6,087,775). It was GE's goal to create a bulb that produced 75% of the light output of HID headlights at 25% of the cost. GE sells HIR bulbs for residential lighting and specialized projectors, but decided to stay out of the automotive market and licensed this technology to a division of Toshiba. In fact, Toshiba and GE are among the few companies in the world with the expertise to engineer and build this product. These bulbs attain light levels 75% to 110% brighter than stock as a result of an engineering process that deposits multiple, yet almost invisible, layers of semi-reflective coating on the surface of a specially shaped quartz bulb. This coating ( a titania/silica, zinc oxide/silica, zirconia/silica, silicon nitride/silica, and titania/magnesium fluoride tantalam/silica multi-layer dielectric, according to the patent) reflects a portion of the infrared energy emitted by the filament back onto the filament, causing it to glow brighter and emit more light from the uncoated forward portion of the bulb. Although the filament gets hotter, the glass does not. IT GENERATES NO MORE HEAT THAN A REGULAR HALOGEN BULB, AND IT DRAWS THE SAME WATTAGE AND AMPERAGE AS THE STOCK 9006 BULB IT REPLACES

Go to http://HIRheadlights.com/uspto hir bulbs.pdf to examine the original patent. You can find the original GE spec sheet info for the prototype bulbs that were discontinued at http://hirheadlights.com/hir techsheet.htm,

My own informal testing showed the GE spec figures to be conservative. I hooked up an Osram 9006 bulb to a fully charged battery on my bench. On my ancient light meter (a GE model from the 1950s -- it's marked in foot-candles but useful for showing relative light levels), I registered a light level of 20 at a distance of 18" from the bulb. The HIR 9012 bulb recorded a light intensity of 35! That's 75% brighter than stock at the same power draw of 55 watts. The comparison between a 9005 high beam and an HIR 9011 high beam was even more impressive, 30 versus 65 on the meter, for a 116% improvement over stock and again with the same wattage (65) as stock. To view some great comparison information, go online to the website listed at the bottom of this page.

Recent tests with several aftermarket bulbs had similar results. Two 9005 blue bulbs, one from a major manufacturer and one a no-name 100 watt unit, both registered 332 on the light meter, less than half the light of the 9011. In fact, the 9012 low beam bulbs were brighter than the aftermarket 9005 high beams! Those bulbs, by the way, came out of a neighbor's Lincoln Mark VIII. Even though his car is unique in that it comes stock with four 9005 hi-beams, he realized when he watched me do the bulb test that he had wasted his money on the other bulbs. The good news is that he now has the light he needs to allow safer driving.

These bulbs produce white light, rated at 3600 Kelvin color temp, slightly whiter than the 3250K stock halogen bulbs. They do not attempt to imitate the bluish appearance of HID (High Intensity Discharge, or Xenon) bulbs. The blue halo of original equipment HIDs comes from the high voltage arc of energy between electrodes, which emits a minor amount of long-wave UV light. Putting blue coating on a regular bulb actually reduces light output.

The Toshiba bulbs are completely DOT compliant as stated, along with the wattage (55W or 65W) on the base. Since they match OEM stock wattage, there is never a problem in cars that have computer monitors for the lighting circuits. You won't get false "headlight failure" messages, which can happen with other over-wattage bulbs or with HIDs. Again, these bulbs attain their phenomenal luminance through breakthroughs in research, not from using more energy. If you have any question about legality of use in your state, I encourage you to call your Motor Vehicle Department and make sure of the law where you live. You can always keep your old bulbs on hand if you need to change back for any reason, but it's best to know the law ahead of time. To the best of my knowledge, they're street legal everywhere. These bulbs have been sold to BMW owners in many states over the last year, and no problems have been reported (and there's been 100% positive feedback).

If your headlights are maintained and aligned properly, there should be no glare issues with these lights. You get a lot more light, but it's still aimed where it should be. The position of the filament in the housing is identical to stock, so the reflectors or projectors work exactly as they were designed --JUST MUCH BETTER AND BRIGHTER.

Personally, I had never thought of great lighting as a performance upgrade like a turbo or better shocks, until I started using these headlights. The farther you can see, the faster you can safely go. All the horsepower in the world won't do you any good if you can't see a deer in the road 100 yards ahead. Now imagine you can see the deer 250 yards ahead. Likewise, there's no glory in slamming those new shocks and wheels into the gaping pothole you couldn't see until it was too late to avoid. You do get spoiled, though. If you use them in one car, you'll miss them in a car that doesn't have them. Soon, you take superior night vision for granted, and you really miss the lumens when the road goes dark. I recently drove cross country using these bulbs, and they just kept looking better and better. There's nothing like a moonless night in Montana to make you appreciate the comfort level you get from high-powered headlights.

The HIR 90012 can replace a stock 9006/HB$ bulb.The HIR 9011 can replace a stock 9005/HB3 bulb.

Cost is $29.95 per bulb. Shipping is $4 in the US , USPS priority insured. See "What do HIR bulbs cost?" in chart on the Frequently Asked Questions page for more details. Ordering instructions are available under "How do I order?" on the same page.


All bulbs are brand new from the factory. The are very rugged Paypal is preferred, using Paypal@FineMotoring.com as the address. Credit cards via Paypal are accepted. Money orders, cashier's checks, and personal checks are also welcome.

These bulbs can fit many models and years of the following cars:

Acura Audi BMW Buick Cadillac Chevrolet Chrysler Dodge Ferrari Ford GMC Honda Hyundai Jaguar Jeep Lexus Lincoln Mazda Mercury Mitsubishi Nissan Oldsmobile Plymouth Pontiac Saab Saturn Subaru Toyota Volkswagen Volvo

A few cars have these bulbs as original equipment, often in tandem with Xenon lights. These cars include Dodge Viper, BMW Z8, Infiniti I30, Chevy Avalance and new Nissan Maximas.

The bulbs also can fit many other makes and models worldwide; if your car takes 9005/9006 bulbs, they will almost certainly fit with ease.ve Lighting/LampReplacement Guide
 
Are you selling these lights? Is there a webpage selling them with some pictures? How long do the HIRs last?

And, what is the significant difference between the HID housing and the halogen housing?

If the HID housing is superior in design and quality, why can't we use the HID housing with halogen bulbs?
 
Calabrio said:
Are you selling these lights? Is there a webpage selling them with some pictures? How long do the HIRs last?

And, what is the significant difference between the HID housing and the halogen housing?

If the HID housing is superior in design and quality, why can't we use the HID housing with halogen bulbs?
http://hirheadlights.com/
 

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