Al-Qaida nukes are here.

MonsterMark

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I've been crying wolf for a couple of years now. Our day of reckoning is getting nearer. Hope you have food and shelter to last a year. When this happens, don't worry about driving to work. You won't have a job.

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WASHINGTON – As London recovers from the latest deadly al-Qaida attack that killed at least 50, top U.S. government officials are contemplating what they consider to be an inevitable and much bigger assault on America – one likely to kill millions, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin. According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "American Hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.



Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union – including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. In addition, documents captured in Afghanistan show al-Qaida had plans to assemble its own nuclear weapons with fissile material it purchased on the black market.

In addition to detonating its own nuclear weapons already planted in the U.S., military sources also say there is evidence to suggest al-Qaida is paying former Russian special forces Spetznaz to assist the terrorist group in locating nuclear weapons formerly concealed inside the U.S. by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Osama bin Laden's group is also paying nuclear scientists from Russia and Pakistan to maintain its existing nuclear arsenal and assemble additional weapons with the materials it has invested hundreds of millions in procuring over a period of 10 years.

The plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S. have been under development for more than a decade. It is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the U.S., which is seen by al-Qaida and its allies as "the Great Satan."

At least half the nuclear weapons in the al-Qaida arsenal were obtained for cash from the Chechen terrorist allies.

But the most disturbing news is that high level U.S. officials now believe at least some of those weapons have been smuggled into the U.S. for use in the near future in major cities as part of this "American Hiroshima" plan, according to an upcoming book, "The al-Qaida Connection: International Terrorism, Organized Crime and the Coming Apocalypse," by Paul L. Williams, a former FBI consultant.

According to Williams, former CIA Director George Tenet informed President Bush one month after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that at least two suitcase nukes had reached al-Qaida operatives in the U.S. "Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons," wrote Williams. "One suitcase bore the serial number 9999 and the Russian manufacturing date of 1988. The design of the weapons, Tenet told the president, is simple. The plutonium and uranium are kept in separate compartments that are linked to a triggering mechanism that can be activated by a clock or a call from the cell phone."

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"The sky is falling, the sky is falling". Chicken Little said it all!
 
Well THAT is just friggin' great! While BuSh has diverted our attention and resources to "no-imminent threat" Iraq, he's left our back door unlocked........... AGAIN!!

GEE, where did those nukes come from? Iraq? NO, Russia!

GEE, who carried those nukes into the US?? Iraqis? NO, Al Quida!

When the fluck are you shrubbies going to wake up and smell the crap that GW has sold this country out??
:Bang
 
If you subscribe to this guys newsletter you can get the scoop. Al-Qaida started this OVER 10 YEARS ago while Clinton was in office. The Free World failed to get their hands around the nukes floating around that were available after the fall of communism. To think we could stop them from getting them into the United States is a joke. There was/is/never will be a way to stop them from smuggling them here.

I laugh at Barry's chicken little comment. How smug one must feel to not feel endangered by these 'terrorists'. People that have absolutely no qualms about strapping on a belt full of explosives and turning themselves into spaghetti.

If I was living in one of the major 'hit' zones, I'd be scared as heck. I would probably move. In my case I can only hope that my family is spared the 1st hit although who knows what will become of the United States after that. We will probably be too paralyzed to do anything. All of our power is located in Washington which I have argued is a stupid thing. Dating all the way back to the Cold War. Why do we have all our eggs in one basket?

Getting back to Barrry...Be afraid, be very afraid. It is not a matter of if, only a matter of when. No wonder they have been so quite. They are very patient. They will pull this off in a single day, within hours. It will become the day the Earth stood still.
 
Three words...Mutually Assured Destruction.

LGM-118A Peacekeeper MIRV with 10 Avco MK 21 re-entry vehicles each with a minimum yield of 300 Kilotons.

One on Mecca and one on Medina should make a point. They think we're Satan? Let's show em' what Hell looks like.

Really though...watch the movie "Dirty War". It should be required watching...
 
FreeFaller said:
Really though...watch the movie "Dirty War". It should be required watching...
Dirty Bombs are one thing. I am talking about the real thing. 20 Mile radius stuff. Unless we get really lucky, there will not be a Jack Bauer to save the day at the last second.
 
Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union – including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. In addition, documents captured in Afghanistan show al-Qaida had plans to assemble its own nuclear weapons with fissile material it purchased on the black market.


Why need to build your own if you already have 40?


at least two suitcase nukes had reached al-Qaida operatives in the U.S. "Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons,"


And they havent used them in 4 years because..........?


to assist the terrorist group in locating nuclear weapons formerly concealed inside the U.S. by the Soviet Union during the Cold War.


Such weapons cannot be just placed and forgotton. They have to be maintained. The nuclear material will break down the other components before long from being in such close proximity.

The article is full of holes... Besides - whats the point? Even if its all true, there is nothing any of us can do about it or in preparation for it. Place the 40 nukes correctly, the whole country will be dead. The fallout will be carried east and will finish the job. Besides - if they only set off one or two - can you imagine how we would react? I know I would just start nukin everywhere I even imagined could be a threat. Iran, Pakistan, North Korea, Sudan, anywhere I thought terrorists might be.
 
Joeychgo said:
Besides - if they only set off one or two - can you imagine how we would react? I know I would just start nukin everywhere I even imagined could be a threat. Iran, Pakistan, North Korea, Sudan, anywhere I thought terrorists might be.
That's my point. It is going to happen. There are so many nukes now anybody with the cash can get them.

So if you are Bush and this happens in the next 3 years, what should he do?

How should America respond?

To me, this is not hypothetical. It is only a matter of when, not if.
 
MonsterMark said:
How should America respond?


I dont worry about things I have no control over, its a waste of energy. I cant tell you how to respond because it would depend on exactly what happens. If a single nuke went off in NY, well that would have one response, if 40 went off all over the country, wont be any response, we'll be dead. Either way - its not something im prepared to spend time right now worrying about. I sure if something like this happens your buddy GW will run over to the middle east and collect all the oil, then land on an aircraft carrier somewhere and act like he actuall did something.
 
Typical of the left having no plan or anything to offer.

You guys have all the answers but like sKerry, it's all wrapped up in a secret plan. Put me in charge and then I'll tell you b.s.

What's wrong with knowing how to respond? The who/what/where/when/why. You complain about Bush and he had no plan to leave Iraq before entering and here we sit like deer blinded by the lights and it seems all the left is prepared to do is stand there and get run over by the car. This is precisely why the majority of Americans want the Republicans in charge of our security. They know we will do everything we can to keep this country safe. Not play russian roulette with our citizens lives.
 
Good question Joey. If they have them, why didn't they use them instead of flying airplanes into buildings?
 
I read an article that said Al Queda was targeting the major cheese producing centers of the country! Head for shelters, Bryan!
 
Joeychgo said:
Besides - if they only set off one or two - can you imagine how we would react? I know I would just start nukin everywhere I even imagined could be a threat. Iran, Pakistan, North Korea, Sudan, anywhere I thought terrorists might be.
In case ya forgot, we were attacked. At least 2,985 people were killed in total. In addition to the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center itself, five other buildings at the WTC site and four subway stations were destroyed or badly damaged. In total, on Manhattan Island, 25 buildings were damaged. Communications infrastructure such as broadcast radio, television and two way radio antenna towers were damaged beyond repair. In Arlington, a portion of the Pentagon was severely damaged by fire and one section of the building collapsed. This was a deathmatch challenge by islamists who are funded by many nations in the middle east for religious war intent on wiping out all of the US. Bush begins chasing Bin-Laden around in circles while we have massive amounts of intelligence showing that Iraq is a) funding terrorism b) building WMDs c) killing their own innocent.

So, you would just start bombing every suspect country? Bush carefully planned a strategy and did not act until congress voted to go ahead with the plan. And now you blame him?
This is what you said you would do:
I would just start nukin everywhere I even imagined could be a threat
and this is what you say when asked what Bush should have done:
its not something im prepared to spend time right now worrying about. I sure if something like this happens your buddy GW will run over to the middle east and collect all the oil, then land on an aircraft carrier somewhere and act like he actuall did something.
Do you really listen to the news? have you been sleeping the last three years? Because you are wrong about what Bush did in response -- completely wrong. And we know better. This is why conservative America has the power to rule... they know what they are doing, and you should be thankful that Bush has the intelligence an morals to act accordingly, and the stones to relentlessly resolve the issue.... and not flip-flop like the left.

Well.... you just shot all your credibility all to he|| again... Ya just make yourself look more like your avatar photo then Bush ever will.
But thanks for playing... and thanks for representing the whining, no solution libs perfectly. We see right through ya!
 
barry2952 said:
"The sky is falling, the sky is falling". Chicken Little said it all!

Interesting how Johnny and Barry had instant, knee-jerk, totally OPPOSITE reactions to your article, Monstermark. :slam
 
Only because there are about a million holes in it just like the security of the borders of this nation.
 
barry2952 said:
Only because there are about a million holes in it just like the security of the borders of this nation.

I kinda felt that way too after reading it, sounds like a load of BS to me, at least most of it. Not saying it couldnt happen, but that article doesnt make for a stong case.

MonsterMark said:
That's my point. It is going to happen. There are so many nukes now anybody with the cash can get them.

I guess anyone but Iraq =p
 
I only wonder how many of those nukes will actually work, 30+ years of no service, and they were built by the russians, sorry to say but I've seen quite a few incompetant things they've done over the years...
 
Ah yes, The blood is starting to boil.

Let's try this exercise again. Let's pretend that the lefties are back in power. The year is 2008 and Hillary leads a sweep into power for the Dems, taking back the House and Senate and we are still filibustering the 3 vacant Supreme Court seats so liberalism is alive and well. You now have the finger on the nuclear button. Still playing along? Great.

Al-Qaida takes over a TV station, a Fox affiliate of course, and makes an ultimatum. Pull out of the Middle East or infidels will die. To prove they are serious, they will blow up one American city. The catch is we get to pick which one.

1) Which city do we pick?
2) What happens after they blow it up? ie: What do we do then?
3) Do we surrender to prevent any more casualties?

OK, guys on the left. I really need to hear your responses. This should be good. Play nice now. You always complain about the Bush Administration not having a plan, well here's your chance to play...Nuclear Confrontation.
 
MonsterMark said:
Ah yes, The blood is starting to boil.

Let's try this exercise again. Let's pretend that the lefties are back in power. The year is 2008 and Hillary leads a sweep into power for the Dems, taking back the House and Senate and we are still filibustering the 3 vacant Supreme Court seats so liberalism is alive and well. You now have the finger on the nuclear button. Still playing along? Great.

Al-Qaida takes over a TV station, a Fox affiliate of course, and makes an ultimatum. Pull out of the Middle East or infidels will die. To prove they are serious, they will blow up one American city. The catch is we get to pick which one.

1) Which city do we pick?
2) What happens after they blow it up? ie: What do we do then?
3) Do we surrender to prevent any more casualties?

OK, guys on the left. I really need to hear your responses. This should be good. Play nice now. You always complain about the Bush Administration not having a plan, well here's your chance to play...Nuclear Confrontation.

Im assuming we are still in Iraq then. Sheesh!
For 1 id be pissed at Bush for not goin after Al-Qaida with full force, and instead choosing to go after Iraq. I dont call what we are doin today a all out war on Al-qaida, if we put the man power we have in iraq twards hunting them down we would have got alot farther then we have to date.

I wouldnt pick a city I dont think..... We actually fight al-qaida where we have intel they might be, with or without the countries approval (hopefully with). With how Al-Qaida is set up I dont think we could do much to them with nukes.

But I dont think I can come up with a good answer, this would be a tough one. I sure wouldnt want to be in charge if this happened =p Im curious what your answer would be to this MonsterMark.
 
Punisher said:
But I dont think I can come up with a good answer, this would be a tough one. I sure wouldnt want to be in charge if this happened =p Im curious what your answer would be to this MonsterMark.
I will be more than happy to voice my opinion. You can count on that. I think it is important to see what our friends on the left would do if placed in that position. After all, with all the criticisms we have heard about the Bush administration from the left, I have never heard a single suggestion about what they would do on any subject. Medicare, SS, environment, terrorism, you name it. I have never heard one little thing. Only negativity.
So let's give them a chance to play Nuclear Confrontation. (applause)
 
It's become painfully obvious that you don't listen to anything but that little voice in your head. We who oppose BuSh have offered many solutions. You have simply ignored them or you haven't seen them while wearing your BuSh goggles.

Try reading some of the oppositions posts once in a while.
 
barry2952 said:
It's become painfully obvious that you don't listen to anything but that little voice in your head. We who oppose BuSh have offered many solutions. You have simply ignored them or you haven't seen them while wearing your BuSh goggles.

Try reading some of the oppositions posts once in a while.

:I Thank you Barry. Took the words right off my keyboard.

I find it interesting that my sarcastic "opposite" reaction went right over fossten's head. Even IF the sky is really falling, BuSh still let this country down.
 
You know I read each and every one of them. Use the search function and drag them up and make me look the fool. You've been trying to do that for a year now with no success. Here's your chance. Give me something to chew on.
 
barry2952 said:
It's become painfully obvious that you don't listen to anything but that little voice in your head.
I will admit in the past to having listened to that little voice in my pants.
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